So, as the message subject goes: Did Mike Pence obliterate the Republican party?

Either fraud claims had a basis solid enough to warrant investigations
(whether investigations showed there was fraud or the elections were fair), or fraud claims were baseless.

In any case, Pence's refusal to defer the acceptance of the votes coming from disputed States is an admision on his part that fraud claims had no grounds, id est, according to such concession, the Republican party would have been spreading shitty lies.

In other words: if I were a Republican supporter, voting Republican in 2024 would mean either: a) Voting for a party of liars and scumbags (if the fraud claims have no base) or b) Voting for a party of cowards that don't have the guts to defend their position (in the claims have a base but they don't want to defend them).

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Re: Did Mike Pence obliterate the Republican party?
By: Arelor to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:12 am

So, as the message subject goes: Did Mike Pence obliterate the Republican party?

No, he simply did what he had to do.

Either fraud claims had a basis solid enough to warrant investigations (whether investigations showed there was fraud or the elections were fair), or fraud claims were baseless.

These claims have been looked at but there is simply no proof.

Either fraud claims had a basis solid enough to warrant investigations (whether investigations showed there was fraud or the elections were fair), or fraud claims were baseless.

There is no truth to these claims. I think people who follow Trump felt there was but no proof has come.

In any case, Pence's refusal to defer the acceptance of the votes coming from disputed States is an admision on his part that fraud claims had no grounds, id est, according to such concession, the Republican party would have been spreading shitty lies.

I think it just went to far, even after that lack of proof.

In other words: if I were a Republican supporter, voting Republican in 2024 would mean either: a) Voting for a party of liars and scumbags (if the fraud claims have no base) or b) Voting for a party of cowards that don't have the guts to defend their position (in the claims have a base but they don't want to defend them).

2024 is a way off yet. I wouldn't vote for a liar or a scumbag and I suppose most republicans wouldn't either. Republicans will have to take a look at the candidates they have in 2024 and make a choice.

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Some folks may have to evaluate what has happened and why, but I don't think the republican party is dead.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Did Mike Pence obliterate the Republican party?
By: Arelor to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:12 am

So, as the message subject goes: Did Mike Pence obliterate the Republican party?

Pence did the only thing he could do.

Either fraud claims had a basis solid enough to warrant investigations (whether investigations showed there was fraud or the elections were fair), or fraud claims were baseless.

There was ZERO evidence to support any claim of widespread fraud, large enough to overturn a presidential election.

Well, other than The President of the United States calling state election officials and not-so-subtly threatening them if they didn't overturn the results.

In any case, Pence's refusal to defer the acceptance of the votes coming from disputed States is an admision on his part that fraud claims had no grounds, id est, according to such concession, the Republican party would have been spreading shitty lies.

He couldn't defer them. it wasn't within his power.

In other words: if I were a Republican supporter, voting Republican in 2024 would mean either: a) Voting for a party of liars and scumbags (if the fraud claims have no base) or b) Voting for a party of cowards that don't have the guts to defend their position (in the claims have a base but they don't want to defend them).

It's both, really. They lied, and then couldn't, or wouldn't back up those lies when pressed on them.

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The Republican Party has been dead for the better part of 20 years at this point. It started with the Tea Party.

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Arelor wrote to All <=-

Either fraud claims had a basis solid enough to warrant investigations (whether investigations showed there was fraud or the elections were fair), or fraud claims were baseless.

There was never any ruling on that. I think that's where many people had problems.
While there were many court cases, they were all dismissed on procedural issues, not on merits.
It's like the courts did everything they could to simply not touch the cases.

In any case, Pence's refusal to defer the acceptance of the votes
coming from disputed States is an admision on his part that fraud
claims had no grounds, id est, according to such concession, the Republican party would have been spreading shitty lies.

I think you are falling for the Leftie Narrative here. I don't see any admission there.

I *would* like to know why Pence did it, though.

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The Repubulican Party died years ago. Trump finally put a stake through it's undead head.
Good riddance. They have been nothing but RINOs and Jellyfish for a long time now.


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