Hey everybody.
Happy transgender day. build back better.
Hey everybody.
Happy transgender day. build back better.
I was not aware that the administration had created a holiday for this. I just figured it was tomorrow, 4/1.
Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Mar 31 2024 09:10 am
Happy transgender day. build back better.
I was not aware that the administration had created a holiday for this. just figured it was tomorrow, 4/1.
the joke is on us i guess. really sad.
Hey everybody.
Happy transgender day. build back better.
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Happy transgender day. build back better.
I was not aware that the administration had created a holiday for this. just figured it was tomorrow, 4/1.
the joke is on us i guess. really sad.
glorifying mental illness really
Hey everybody.
Happy transgender day. build back better.
Hey everybody.
Happy transgender day. build back better.
Happy transgender day. build back better.
I was not aware that the administration had created a holiday for this. just figured it was tomorrow, 4/1.
the joke is on us i guess. really sad.
glorifying mental illness really
Hey everybody.
Happy transgender day. build back better.
While I'm supportive of all things, I think it was stupid to make that a thing
n... Easter. Cmon dude - leave some things alone.
paulie420 wrote to MRO <=-
Hey everybody.
Happy transgender day. build back better.
While I'm supportive of all things, I think it was stupid to make
that a thing on... Easter. Cmon dude - leave some things alone.
While I'm supportive of all things, I think it was stupid to make that a
thing on... Easter. Cmon dude - leave some things alone.
Well... keeping my personal thoughts out of it... To be fair, this "holiday" is designated to be on 3/31 every year, and the date of Easter is variable. They just happened to coincide this year.
MRO wrote to All <=-
Hey everybody.
Happy transgender day. build back better.
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MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Hey everybody.
Happy transgender day. build back better.
I was not aware that the administration had created a holiday for this. I just figured it was tomorrow, 4/1.
the joke is on us i guess. really sad.
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the joke is on us i guess. really sad.
While I'm supportive of all things, I think it was stupid to make that a thing on... Easter. Cmon dude - leave some things alone.
Yes, that is what I thought, too. Especially during an election year.
The US Administration didn't set the date as it's been March 31st for at least the last ten years.
He is so completely ineffective and disabled - TBH, I think both choices are terrible for America - will we get smart again in the future?
Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: Stationkeeper to paulie420 on Mon Apr 01 2024 06:35 pm
The US Administration didn't set the date as it's been March 31st
for
at least the last ten years.
STOP confusing us with FACTS!
"But when she got undressed, it was a big old mess, Sheena was a man
So I threw him out, I don't fool around with no Oscar Mayer wiener"
is so completely ineffective and disabled - TBH, I think both choices are terrible for America - will we get smart again in the future?
If Biden get re-elected, I don't think I'll believe in the system anymore. He
so completely ineffective and disabled - TBH, I think both choices are terrib
for America - will we get smart again in the future?
The thing is, joe biden emphasized trans day. along with downplaying easter
Eazy E's rap about holdin' up a bank.. "I pulled 'er panties down, and THE BITCH HAD A DICK!@#"
The only way we get smart again is if we start nominating the sensible candidates rather than the ones that sound good on sound bites or that
get a lot of social media attention. In 2016 and again this year,
there have been multiple candidates (at least one per side) that sounded sensible and that could speak like someone with a head on their
shoulders. All of them are usually eliminated after the first round of debates. One or two have actually survived into primary season before becoming early-outs.
Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: Nopants to MRO on Mon Apr 01 2024 10:00 am
"But when she got undressed, it was a big old mess, Sheena was a man
So I threw him out, I don't fool around with no Oscar Mayer wiener"
Eazy E's rap about holdin' up a bank.. "I pulled 'er panties down, and THE BITCH HAD A DICK!@#"
If someone gives to their community, helps their neighbours, and is a good, humble, kind person they can call themselves a unicorn for all I care.
The only way we get smart again is if we start nominating the sensible candidates rather than the ones that sound good on sound bites or that get a lot of social media attention. In 2016 and again this year,
there have been multiple candidates (at least one per side) that sounded sensible and that could speak like someone with a head on their shoulders. All of them are usually eliminated after the first round of debates. One or two have actually survived into primary season before becoming early-outs.
I really liked Ramiswamey... sounded great; in fact, RFK sounds decent, too. I
gine if we'd of had them as [true] options. I think that would have been a lot
etter for America, but here we are.
With the things that are wrong in the world right now a dude wearing a dress or a person not identifying as man or woman is so far down the list I don't even pay attention.
If someone gives to their community, helps their neighbours, and is a good, humble, kind person they can call themselves a unicorn for all I care.
If someone gives to their community, helps their neighbours, and is a good, humble, kind person they can call themselves a unicorn for all I care.
For the life of me I don't know why it bothers people.
If someone gives to their community, helps their neighbours, and is a good, humble, kind person they can call themselves a unicorn for all I care.
they don't. many of these people have severe problems other than just the dysphoria.
For the life of me I don't know why it bothers people.
it's not good for society. you normalize that behavior, allow them to groom
Straight white dudes. Fraud? Same. I'm an older cishet white guy, and the
You know who commits 98% of sexual assaults? Guys who id as cis-heterosexuals.
You know who commits the lions share of domestic abuse and assault cases?
Straight white dudes. Fraud? Same. I'm an older cishet white guy, and
being beaten while they get called a pedo or something which, again, is
a offender group that consists of 80% white cis het dudes.
Goodness me. Have you even ever met someone who is trans? Chances are
you have and you didn't know because they're terrified of literally
being beaten to death because of that.
anyways, having these people created huge problems unless they somehow
got them away from other people and got them in a cushy position with little interaction with others.
reminds me of the thing they do in japan.. it's shameful to fire full employees (in a sense you failed them, they didn't fail you). they move their offices, hide them away in hopes they quit or whatever.. so they end up with employees who hang out and do nothing all day.
because everything is relative and it's all part of the degredation of socie
the entire older generation of trans people fight HARD for trans rights because
they're projecting. they are all severely depressed and seem to think that if t
ey had only transitioned earlier they would look like they wanted to and the wh
le world would be sunshine and rainbows. it's dilusional.
If someone gives to their community, helps their neighbours, and is a good, humble, kind person they can call themselves a unicorn for all I care.
For the life of me I don't know why it bothers people.
How does a guy wearing a dress and makeup and calling herself Susan degrade our society? Why does it even matter to me at all?
So, am I going to slam old white dudes for it? No. We're individuals who mak
I'm new around here, and I didn't really want to start my time here on this
network on something like this but here we are. Maybe just think of the las time a trans person did anything to affect your life whatsoever, except may
I'm new around here, and I didn't really want to start my time here on this
I've noticed that this net tends to evoke stuff like that. There's a lot to just better ignore.
2000s, there was a guy that would msg me ridiculous obscenities in caps every single time he got on IRC. He fucked with a lot of people, not just me, but for some reason he just had to do this... And now he's a woman. I should've saved all my interactions (or lack thereof on my side) with him. It might've made an interesting case study.
He's IRL friends with a bunch of my IRL friends, so it's a little more
Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: Arelor to Stationkeeper on Fri Apr 05 2024 11:16 am
It is astonishing the lengths people will go to just to justify their power over another.
Half of this doesn't even make sense
Nice.
So who's regular? I can't think of a Trans person who's spewed a screed about how they're superior. They just want the freedom to live the way they
I haven't been on a BBS since about 1995. I honestly didn't expect to run into people that were honestly talking from then.
You've been quite the ambassador.
So I hope the next person who crosses your path who asks for permission to be a "regular person" doesn't "pester" you by asking you to treat them as just a normal human being.
Nightfox wrote to fusion <=-
That reminds me of some things I was reading a while ago on Japanese culture, talking about the work culture in Japan and how a lot of
people stay at the office for long hours each workday.
I haven't been on a BBS since about 1995. I honestly didn't expect to run i people that were honestly talking from then.
There was a lot of hero worship around the "rock stars" who worked late
into the evening. I came in early, got a couple of hours of work in
Transexual activists are like religious fundamentalists
phigan wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I was a "rock star" for a while at a past job.. My issue, though, was
that I couldn't get any actual work done while in the office because of either meetings or just constant "drive-by"s that want to chat about weekend plans or whatever. If I had to come in to the office, I liked
to get there around 4 or 5am when nobody would be there for hours. I
would get a bunch of work done, then when people came in we'd have our meetings, then I would just go home at lunch time :).
There was a lot of hero worship around the "rock stars" who worked late into the evening. I came in early, got a couple of hours of work in before they'd show up, then leave at a normal time.
The Rock Stars would come in at 11, work an hour, then take a lunch. Work until 7pm, then take that company sponsored dinner break for anyone working late. Go back to work around 8:30pm, leave around 10 or 11. I don't know how much work got done after dinner.
They were the smart ones - they ended up working the same amount of hours as me, with free dinner thrown in.
I was a "rock star" for a while at a past job.. My issue, though, was that I couldn't get any actual work done while in the office because of either meetings or just constant "drive-by"s that want to chat about weekend plans or whatever. If I had to come in to the office, I liked to get there around 4 or 5am when nobody would be there for hours. I would get a bunch of work done, then when people came in we'd have our meetings, then I would just go home at lunch time :).
Oddly enough, at my last open office job, the culture was the opposite. We had phone booths for phone calls, and most people would send me a slack message instead of walking up to my desk. It made for an amazingly quiet environment that you could meet in a room if you wanted to.
hours as me, with free dinner thrown in.
A company-paid meal would be nice. I haven't worked at a company that did that.. For about 8 years, I worked at a company that had a couple of cafes on-site, but it wasn't even discounted or anything, and many meals there cost about as much as a restaurant meal.
Quoting Phigan to Poindexter Fortran <=-
weekend plans or whatever. If I had to come in to the office, I liked
to get there around 4 or 5am when nobody would be there for hours. I
would get a bunch of work done, then when people came in we'd have our meetings, then I would just go home at lunch time :).
Quoting Mro to Nightfox <=-
companies need to start thinking of workers more.
there's a whole generation of kids in the workforce with ADHD, poor
work habits and other issues that aren't really valuable. valuable workers should be rewarded. -!-
You need to wake up.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Even with the breaks, I'm not sure I could be at work for 11-12 hours
at a time like that, especially since I'm married.. After so many
hours, I start to feel like my mind isn't quite in it like it is in the morning. Also, I like to be able to have dinner at home with my wife.
A company-paid meal would be nice. I haven't worked at a company that
did that.. For about 8 years, I worked at a company that had a couple
of cafes on-site, but it wasn't even discounted or anything, and many meals there cost about as much as a restaurant meal.
companies need to start thinking of workers more. that means decent pto, give us what we need to do our jobs, and perks like free meals is nice.
I worked at one company with discounted prices, but the nice thing was that decent coffee and soda was available all day for free. The offices had stale Peets and dirty Bunn coffee makers.
Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Apr 07 2024 07:27 pm
companies need to start thinking of workers more. that means decent pto, give us what we need to do our jobs, and perks like free meals is nice.
That would be nice. While it's good to have a good paycheck, things like PTO and other perks are good too.
Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Mon Apr 08 2024 06:47 am
I worked at one company with discounted prices, but the nice thing was that decent coffee and soda was available all day for free. The offices had stale Peets and dirty Bunn coffee makers.
The company I worked at with the cafes on-site also had free soda and coffee, which was nice.
companies could atleast have some soda machines and make soda and water a quarter.
Let's go Brandon!
Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Apr 08 2024 04:26 pm
companies could atleast have some soda machines and make soda and water a quarter.
Many companies I've seen have water for free. I've worked at a couple companies now (including my current company) that have water fountains, and also installed filtered water dispensers above the water fountains so you can bring your own water bottle (or reusable drink cup) and fill it with water any time at no cost.
i dont even like taking off a lot. but pto you can use my the hour is great. you can take off early fridays, come in late when there's bad weather or whatever.
I don't take off much either... but since they got rid of PTO in my company, we can take off whenever we want... just tell the boss if you're going to be gone more than one or two days. I think it was done as an incentive to attract new workers.
want... just tell the boss if you're
going to be gone more than one or tw
days. I think it was done as an
incentive to attract new workers.
How does that work? You say they go
rid of PTO, so does that mean any ti
you take off is unpaid?
How does that work? You say they got rid of PTO, so does that mean any time you take off is unpaid?
company, we can take off whenever we want... just tell the boss if you're going to be gone more than one or two days. I think it was done as an incentive to attract new workers.
How does that work? You say they got rid of PTO, so does that mean any time you take off is unpaid?
Actually they did it because if you
don't accrue time off, they don't have
to pay it out when you leave.
I assume they'r referring to what companies are calling "flex PTO" or "unlimited PTO". Netflix started this trend about 10 years ago where they don't have to carry the vacation pay "debt" to employees on their balance sheets (and thus can report more favorable financials in shareholder meetings, SEC reports, etc.) - if an employee leaves the company for any reason, the companies doesn't owe them any "vacation pay". But the time they do take off, is indeed paid, and it can't have a specfied "limit" (e.g. 2 weeks a year or whatever) and there's no accrual period (a new hire can immediately take PTO).
I was at Broadcom when they switched from traditional vacation to (what they called) "unlimited vacation", at which time they "paid out" to all employees that had vacation balances. So that was a nice financial surprise. But after that, most employees took about the same or less vacation as they did previously and were not compensated for the additional "unused" vacation days. So it's a bit of a financial and psychological game.
Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: MRO to Stationkeeper on Thu Apr 04 2024 04:42 pm
I'm new around here, and I didn't really want to start my time here on this network on something like this but here we are. Maybe just think of the las time a trans person did anything to affect your life whatsoever, except may make you just feel uncomfortable.
Thanks for the opportunity to chat.
sheets (and thus can report more favorable financials in shareholder meetings, SEC reports, etc.) - if an employee leaves the company for any reason, the companies doesn't owe them any "vacation pay". But the time they do take off, is indeed paid, and it can't have a specfied "limit" (e.g. 2 weeks a year or whatever) and there's no accrual period (a new hire can immediately take PTO).
I was at Broadcom when they switched from traditional vacation to (what they called) "unlimited vacation", at which time they "paid out" to all employees that had vacation balances. So that was a nice financial surprise. But after that, most employees took about the same or less vacation as they did previously and were not compensated for the additional "unused" vacation days. So it's a bit of a financial and psychological game.
Now, pretty much all the tech companies do this. https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/unlimited-pto
I was at Broadcom when they switched from traditional vacation to (what they called) "unlimited vacation", at which time they "paid out" to all employees that had vacation balances. So that was a nice financial surprise. But after that, most employees took about the same or less vacation as they did previously and were not compensated for the additional "unused" vacation days. So it's a bit of a financial and psychological game.
Ah, I've heard about that. It does seem like a bit of a game.. One
more thing to benefit the company and not the people who work for them.
Now, pretty much all the tech companies do this. https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/unlimited-pto
that wouldn't work anyplace else. people would just take off until they get fired.
I would be absolutely surprised if nobody tries to take full advantage of that. Every Friday off? You bet!
I for one agree with everything you said. And I very much feel you when it comes to how to (re)start ones BBS participation .. I'm in the same boat.
I have a lot to say about this topic but I don't *need* to say it all here. But I'll signal my stance (like you did) in the hope that this place does not become yet another echo chamber - no matter what's being echoed.
- Ltning
additional "unused" vacation days. So it's a bit of a financial and psychological game.
I would be absolutely surprised if nobody tries to take full advantage of that. Every Friday off? You bet!
Regards,
Nick
that wouldn't work anyplace else. people would just take off until
they
get fired.
Anyplace other than... where? Tons of companies are doing this now.
Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Apr 11 2024 04:21 pm
that wouldn't work anyplace else. people would just take off until
they
get fired.
Anyplace other than... where? Tons of companies are doing this now.
I've worked in manufacturing for 29 years.
i've been an electronics tech for 17 years, and i've been a heat treater and other jobs when i was younger. also i've worked a lot of part time jobs to pay off my debt (ups, dayton freight and other stuff).
I've been have manufacturing and half sitting at a desk too.
you sit at a desk apparently.
In my world that shit wouldn't fly. We need people to come in.
not people who come in whenever they feel like that. when that happens in blue collar people get fired.
imagine if the truck driver who drives our food to the store comes in when he feels like it. What about nurses and doctors. imagine if any essential job had that policy. it would be chaos.
We're talking about Flexible PTO, not "come in whenever you feel like it". The employee still has to submit a time-off request and get approval from their manager (which can be denied). It's just that there is no documented/fixed cap on the total number of days of PTO that can be taken per year - that discretion is up to the employee's manager. It has nothing to do with whether the employee sits at a desk or drives a truck. You've never heard of this?
Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Apr 11 2024 06:15 pm
We're talking about Flexible PTO, not "come in whenever you feel like it". The employee still has to submit a time-off request and get approval from their manager (which can be denied). It's just that there is no documented/fixed cap on the total number of days of PTO that can be taken per year - that discretion is up to the employee's manager. It has nothing to do with whether the employee sits at a desk or drives a truck. You've never heard of this?
I've NEVER heard of no cap on PTO days.
I find it hard to believe that this would be widely accepted for anything other than salary workers.
that wouldn't work anyplace else. people would just take off until they get fired.
I've worked in manufacturing for 29 years.
i've been an electronics tech for 17 years, and i've been a heat treater and other jobs when i was younger. also i've worked a lot of part time jobs to pay off my debt (ups, dayton freight and other stuff).
their manager (which can be denied). It's just that there is no
documented/fixed cap on the total number of days of PTO that can be taken
per year - that discretion is up to the employee's manager. It has nothing
I've NEVER heard of no cap on PTO days.
it's more sensible if you have to have it approved.
I find it hard to believe that this would be widely accepted for anything other than salary workers.
Nightfox wrote to Bf2k+ <=-
How does that work? You say they got rid of PTO, so does that mean any time you take off is unpaid?
Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-
Ah, I've heard about that. It does seem like a bit of a game.. One
more thing to benefit the company and not the people who work for them.
Accession wrote to Digital Man <=-
I would be absolutely surprised if nobody tries to take full advantage
of that. Every Friday off? You bet!
Accession wrote to Nightfox <=-
Unless one decides to take the 20 weeks of paid vacation a year that
they think they deserve! :)
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Accession <=-
I would be absolutely surprised if nobody tries to take full advantage
of that. Every Friday off? You bet!
I had a guy working for me who wanted to take off a day of PTO as
soon as it accrued. It worked out to him putting in a PTO request
every first friday for months in a row.
Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Apr 11 2024 05:52 pm
that wouldn't work anyplace else. people would just take off until they get fired.
Well.. I haven't seen anyone in my company get fired or really even take advantage of the situation. We're not really what I would call a tech company although we are the largest electrical distributor in the world. My little group of automation engineers are a little isolated from the rest of the company so we don't see what goes on outside of our little group...
You are correct in that a plant like the one I worked in cannot have a policy like that. They need the people to show up every day. The machines need to run period or the company loses money... $3k / hr on our biggest machines in circa 2000 dollars. That PTO policy would never work there...
I had a guy working for me who wanted to take off a day of PTO as
soon as it accrued. It worked out to him putting in a PTO request
every first friday for months in a row.
Wow, that's a pretty crappy accrual rate.
Accession wrote to Gamgee <=-
I had a guy working for me who wanted to take off a day of PTO as
soon as it accrued. It worked out to him putting in a PTO request
every first friday for months in a row.
Wow, that's a pretty crappy accrual rate.
Yeah man, if he wasn't taking any other days off that's only a
little over 2 weeks of paid vacation when before they probably
had more like 3-5 weeks. :)
MRO wrote to Bf2k+ <=-
You are correct in that a plant like the one I worked in cannot have a policy like that. They need the people to show up every day. The machines need to run period or the company loses money... $3k / hr on our biggest machines in circa 2000 dollars. That PTO policy would never work there...
people do not want to work nowadays.
it got tons worse after covid.
and all people are job jumping.
are you salary?Yes.
people do not want to work nowadays. it got tons worse after covid.
and all people are job jumping.
I have a lot to say about this topic but I don't *need* to say it all here. But I'll signal my stance (like you did) in the hope that this place does not become yet another echo chamber - no matter what's being echoed.
Yep... me and the guys in my group are all old farts who are getting ready to retire. And when we try to hire young people to train to take our places, they either can't or don't want to cut it. It's a scary situation.
I wonder if education programs are at fault.yeah unis fuckin suck they basrely teach us old school stuff. all my old school C and asm skills (asm weaker than C) is self taught the uni focouses too much on shitty ass python and java and c# (more like c SHIT! xD)
As in, college graduates barely know how to code the basics so companies hav to train them nearly from the ground up. It certainly seems that way in lots fields.
Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: Ltning to Stationkeeper on Thu Apr 11 2024 09:46 pm
I have a lot to say about this topic but I don't *need* to say it all here. But I'll signal my stance (like you did) in the hope that this place does not become yet another echo chamber - no matter what's being echoed.
I am pretty sure people is welcome to talk about stuff. If we all agreed on everything then we would not gain much from talking.
This is what separates Dovenet from other *nets I can think about, and from the mainstream Internet.
somethingI have a lot to say about this topic but I don't *need* to say it all here. But I'll signal my stance (like you did) in the hope that this place does not become yet another echo chamber - no matter what's bei echoed.
I am pretty sure people is welcome to talk about stuff. If we all agreed everything then we would not gain much from talking.
This is what separates Dovenet from other *nets I can think about, and fr the mainstream Internet.
i think it's pretty retarded to say on a msg network that you have
say but wont say it. why even say anything in the first place.
anyways this guy is probably the one pretending to be other users. people
Arelor wrote to Bf2k+ <=-
As in, college graduates barely know how to code the basics so
companies have to train them nearly from the ground up. It certainly
seems that way in lots of fields.
Mary4 wrote to Arelor <=-
yeah unis fuckin suck they basrely teach us old school stuff. all my
old school C and asm skills (asm weaker than C) is self taught the uni focouses too much on shitty ass python and java and c# (more like c
SHIT! xD)
Actually they did it because if you
don't accrue time off, they don't have
to pay it out when you leave.
That's the thing: it rarely happens that people take much more vacation than the average. The average is *less* than what was typically afforded emlpoyees (before this trend), so companies are saving money and don't have to carry any debt on their books.
people do not want to work nowadays. it got tons worse after covid.
and all people are job jumping.
anyways this guy is probably the one pretending to be other users. people are
eird.
I worked in my field and finished up school part time, so I felt like I had some chops before I left school.
Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-
anyways this guy is probably the one pretending to be other users.
There is a sysop on fidonet that does that & has at least one
well known "sock puppet" user. That user supposedly lives in a
different country than the sysop and wants to be a sysop, but
won't accept any offers of assistance from the ZC or any other
sysop in his alleged home country to get a system set up.
Every now and then the sysop screws up and posts a message that
is supposedly from the sock puppet but accidentally uses his own
ID, or vise-versa.
Lately, the sock puppet has taken to posting from a different
board so the sysop can claim it is not really him doing the
posting.
Sorry you feel that way - I think perhaps I was misunderstood. The point was that I don't need to spew my opinions just to cause discord. I wanted to voice that I support what was said, and that I'm glad it was said. I see differing opinions here, and
So yeah. I think maybe my sentiment was misunderstood, sorry I did not make myself clear.
anyways this guy is probably the one pretending to be other users.
people
Nope, I'm not. I've been lurking here from The Cave for a while, but not said much. Now I've spun up my own BBS and I have one other active user at the moment. Not exactly a stampede :)
anyways this guy is probably the one pretending to be other users. people are
eird.
There is a sysop on fidonet that does that & has at least one well known "sock puppet" user. That user supposedly lives in a different country than the sysop and wants to be a sysop, but won't accept any offers of
assistance from the ZC or any other sysop in his alleged home country to get a system set up.
Every now and then the sysop screws up and posts a message that is supposedly from the sock puppet but accidentally uses his own ID, or vise-versa.
Lately, the sock puppet has taken to posting from a different board so the sysop can claim it is not really him doing the posting.
MRO wrote to Ltning <=-
Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
By: Ltning to MRO on Tue Apr 16 2024 09:34 am
Sorry you feel that way - I think perhaps I was misunderstood. The point was that I don't need to spew my opinions just to cause discord. I wanted to voice that I support what was said, and that I'm glad it was said. I see differing opinions here, and
So yeah. I think maybe my sentiment was misunderstood, sorry I did not make myself clear.
that's good you can just not say anything else ever again.
especially with your sock puppets.
anyways this guy is probably the one pretending to be other users.
people
Nope, I'm not. I've been lurking here from The Cave for a while, but not said much. Now I've spun up my own BBS and I have one other active user at the moment. Not exactly a stampede :)
yeah it's you. why are you doing it?
Ltning: Ignore the jackass, he's the well-known clown that infests this network.thanks for sticking up for ltning. he is my nice friend who runs floppy.museum
Mary4 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
ah python is okay just i feel it is just a scripting language
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
work (this was in a local computer magazine in 2003). About a month
into my bachelor's degree, someone running a local startup company out
of his house responded, and I went to work for him part-time while I finished my bachelor's (then worked full time).
I got really cocky when I had professors who hadn't seen the light of day outside of a classroom trying to tell us what it was like in the "real world". I'd been working professionally, writing code for a year or so and saw much different things than they had seen.
PASCAL wasn't a great language for a lot of
projects but it was great to learn with.
I got really cocky when I had professors who hadn't seen the light of
day outside of a classroom trying to tell us what it was like in the
"real world".
I don't know a lot about Python except a little bit of syntax. As long
as the language promotes structured programming, I suppose it's
appropriate for teaching. PASCAL wasn't a great language for a lot of projects but it was great to learn with.
Then again, Pascal has been my language of choice since I discovered Turbo Pascal 3 in 1989. :)
Neither of us would have made good instructors. But then, neither was Mr Bel He was literally trying to learn from our textbook so he could teach the cla And doing a lousy job of it!reminds me of POWER class with poly phase electricity.
Neither of us would have made good instructors. But then, neither was Mr
Bel He was literally trying to learn from our textbook so he could teach
the cla And doing a lousy job of it!
Then again, Pascal has been my language of choice since I discovered Turbo Pascal 3 in 1989. :)
i'd like to learn it tbh :D
Then again, Pascal has been my language of choice since I discovered Turbo Pascal 3 in 1989. :)
Mary4 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I don't know a lot about Python except a little bit of syntax. As long
as the language promotes structured programming, I suppose it's
appropriate for teaching. PASCAL wasn't a great language for a lot of projects but it was great to learn with.
i wana learn pascal! xD it seems interesting.
i wish the un diverged
from one of the simplist languages to more complex languages like C and ASM :D
Skylar wrote to Mary4 <=-
Embarcadero, the current owner of Turbo Pascal and Delphi, used to have
a museum webpage where some versins of Turbo Pascal could be
downloaded. But it seems to be gone now.
It's not the complexity. It's the freedom. Pascal kept programmers tightly controlled. Which was needed for a teaching language so that newby programmers didn't "shoot themselves in the foot". C allowed programmers to shoot themselves. But it also allowed programmers to do things that Pascal wouldn't.
Mary4 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I don't know a lot about Python except a little bit of syntax. As long
as the language promotes structured programming, I suppose it's appropriate for teaching. PASCAL wasn't a great language for a lot of projects but it was great to learn with.
i wana learn pascal! xD it seems interesting.
Pascal was the "teaching language" of the day. It was the language they tau to beginning programmers so that they picked up good habits.
Once you got into larger systems, though, Pascal sort of breaks down. There was no way to link in libraries, for example (well, not until later).
Today, the "teaching language" is Python.
i wish the un diverged
from one of the simplist languages to more complex languages like C and ASM :D
It's not the complexity. It's the freedom. Pascal kept programmers tightly controlled. Which was needed for a teaching language so that newby programm didn't "shoot themselves in the foot". C allowed programmers to shoot themselves. But it also allowed programmers to do things that Pascal wouldn
Assembler was complete freedom and many programmers have self-inflicted bull holes from using that. But, again, it would allow you to do things higher level languages wouldn't.
... Just got a new car for my wife... Great trade...yoooo assembly is a great language for freedom! <3
Skylar wrote to Dr. What <=-
I don't agree. Granted, I never used a compiler that conformed strictly
to Nicholas' original design. Even the Pascal compiler in college (on VAX/VMS) had extensions and allowed the use of pointers.
Nearly all of
my Pascal experience is with Turbo Pascal and Delphi.
yeah unis fuckin suck they basrely teach us old school stuff. all my old school C and asm skills (asm weaker than C) is self taught the uni focouses too much on shitty ass python and java and c# (more like c SHIT! xD)
I am more concerned about people not learning the real basics. To keep with the IT subject, many university graduates are never told about common design patterns.
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By: Arelor to Mary4 on Tue Apr 23 2024 06:52 am
I am more concerned about people not learning the real basics. To keep with the IT subject, many university graduates are never told about common design patterns.
Yeah, most of what I learned wasn't practical application of a specific language, but algorithms and structured programming skills. The theory and skills we learned in C and Pascal could apply to any language.
This was CS back in the '80s. Pascal as a starter, the majority ANSI C and some C++, some LISP.
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