• Re: Apples part 2

    From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Oct 25 05:20:00 2024
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    Pretty much. It was like she didn't care any more. She asked me to
    move in with her - I suspect mostly to help ride herd on my younger brother. When she passed I became his guardian.

    How old was your brother at the time? My parents both passed away when
    all of their children were grown/gone so there was no need for any guardianship issues.

    He was 14. So I raised/supervised/advised him for four years before he

    An age where the right kind of supervision will turn the kid into a
    good young man.

    So long as he thought I was advising him on "how "to get away with"
    stuff he paid attention.

    joined the Navy where he learned two widely divergent trades. Cooking
    and underwater welding. He was running the kitchen at the Pensacola
    Naval Air Station's officer's club when he fund that underwater
    welding paid astounding amounts of $$$ per hour so he gave up cheffing
    and went to working on the offshore oil rigs on a contract basis. It
    paid well enough that he only had to work a few days a month to
    provide for his wife and children with lots left over for "projects".

    Sounds like he turned out well. Interesting that the Navy let him
    pursue 2 such widely divergent career paths.

    Whilst doing the Navy's version of KP he was a cook's helper and he
    paid attention. Then his "A" school for training as a hull mantainence
    tech took him into a new class and taught him the underwater welding
    thing. And after graduation from that it was back to cook's helper
    until his orders came through assigning him to a ship.

    Sounds like it so all of those folks that came over from that part of England would have been happy. Probably passed along to their neighbors how to make cider and let it age into vinegar.

    When I make cider vinegar I *always* add some "mother" to the raw
    juice and - Presto - ChangeO ... cider vinegar. Bv)=

    Modern way, old way was to set a barrel of cider outside and let it overwinter, drawing off what you need (but topping it off with more
    cider as you did). By spring you would have a right nice barrel of vinegar, just in time for the summer preserving and such like.

    Scrumpy is a type of cider originating in the West of England,

    You likely wouldn't drink it because of the alcohol. I've tried it and don't care to repeat the experience. But, I might cook with it if
    there were some on hand,

    Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with
    cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake
    from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup.

    Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles.

    Most anything fruity works well for waffles. (G)

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    Title: Picnic Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
    Yield: 10 Servings

    2 lb Frozen hash browns
    1/2 c Butter; melted
    2 cn Cream of chicken soup
    2 c Cheddar cheese; grated
    2 c Sour cream
    1/2 c Onion; chopped
    S & P
    Onion granules
    Garlic granules

    Mix everything together. Place into a greased 13" X 9"
    or 3 qt. casserole dish. Mix 2 cups of crushed corn
    flakes with 1/4 cup melted butter. Spread on top of
    casserole.

    Bake at 350oF/175oC for 45 minutes to 1 hour.

    Recipe from the kitchen of Rita Emmett

    Note: If you use the 13" X 9" dish there will be some
    left over to keep at home.

    Recipe from: http://www.recipesource.com

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    Title: Perfect Picnic Rub
    Categories: Rubs, Condiments, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 1 Batch

    5 tb Ground black pepper
    1/4 c Turbinado sugar
    3 tb Paprika
    2 tb Salt
    1 tb Dry mustard
    2 ts Onion powder
    1 ts Cayenne

    Mix together. Store in glass jar. Protect from excess
    heat. Use liberally.

    From: Smoke & Spice

    Shared By: Pat Stockett - 06-22-95

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    Title: Farm Monitor's Pressed Italian Picnic Sandwich
    Categories: Breads, Pork, Beef, Cheese, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 servings

    1/4 c Olive oil
    3 tb Balsamic vinegar
    1 ts Dijon mustard
    1/4 ts Black pepper; to taste
    1/4 c Prepared pesto
    1 Loaf Ciabatta bread
    1/4 lb Sliced provolone cheese
    1/2 lb Salami
    1/2 lb Sliced ham
    1/4 lb Sliced pepperoni
    1 lb Fresh mozzarella; sliced
    1/2 c Roasted red peppers; sliced

    Combine olive oil, vinegar, pesto and pepper.

    Cut bread in half, spread oil mixture evenly on both
    cut sides.

    Layer provolone and remaining ingredients in order
    listed.

    Tightly wrap sandwich in plastic wrap, place a heavy
    object such a heavy frying pan in top of the sandwich,
    refrigerate overnight.

    Slice sandwich into serving sizes and wrap in deli paper
    to serve.

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    Title: Provencal picnic sandwich (Pan bagnat)
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Herbs, Seafood
    Yield: 7 Servings

    1 Pain de campagne or round
    - sourdough loaf (400g/14oz)
    1 cl Garlic; fine chopped/grated
    3 tb Extra virgin olive oil
    1 sm Red onion; thin sliced
    3 lg Ripe tomatoes; sliced
    1 (15 cm/6") cucumber; sliced
    225 g Tin tuna in olive oil;
    - drained
    6 Anchovies in olive oil;
    - drained
    3 lg Hard-boiled eggs; peeled,
    - sliced
    20 Nicoise or Kalamata olives;
    - pitted, halved
    1 ts Fresh oregano or marjoram
    - leaves; chopped
    10 Fresh basil leaves; torn
    1 Handful rocket leaves
    1 tb Red wine vinegar
    1 ts Dijon mustard
    Salt & fresh ground pepper

    Slice off the top quarter of the loaf to use as a lid.
    Using your fingers, hollow out the inside of the rest of
    the bread to leave just a shell.

    Sprinkle the inside of the bread shell and the lid with
    the garlic, then brush with 2 tablespoons of the olive
    oil.

    Layer the onion, tomatoes, cucumber, tuna, anchovies,
    eggs, olives, oregano, basil and rocket into the bread
    shell, seasoning with salt and pepper as you go (the
    order does not really matter). Mix the remaining olive
    oil with the vinegar and mustard in a small bowl and
    then drizzle this dressing into the bread shell so it
    trickles down over the filling. Top with the bread lid
    and wrap the loaf tightly in kitchen foil.

    Place in a baking tin and weigh down with a heavy pan or
    a four pack of tinned tomatoes or similar. Leave in the
    fridge overnight. Cut into wedges and serve.

    Serves 6 - 8

    By Rick Stein

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.bbc.co.uk

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    Title: Layered Picnic Loaves
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Herbs, Cheese, Meats
    Yield: 24 servings

    2 Unsliced loaves (1 lb ea)
    - Italian bread
    1/4 c Olive oil
    3 cl Garlic; minced
    2 ts Italian seasoning; divided
    1/2 lb Deli roast beef
    12 sl (1 oz ea) mozzarella cheese
    16 Fresh basil leaves
    3 md Tomatoes; thin sliced
    1/4 lb Thinly sliced salami
    6 1/2 oz Jar marinated artichoke
    - hearts; drained, sliced
    10 oz Bag ready-to-serve salad
    - greens
    8 oz Thin sliced deli chicken
    1 md Onion; thin sliced
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/8 ts Pepper

    Cut loaves in half horizontally; hollow out tops and
    bottoms, leaving 1/2' shells (discard removed bread
    or save for another use).

    Combine oil and garlic; brush inside bread shells.
    Sprinkle with 1 teaspoon Italian seasoning. Layer bottom
    of each loaf with a fourth of each: roast beef,
    mozzarella, basil, tomatoes, salami, artichokes, salad
    greens, chicken and onion. Repeat layers. Season with
    salt, pepper and remaining Italian seasoning.

    Drizzle with remaining oil mixture if desired. Replace
    bread tops; wrap tightly and refrigerate at least 1 hour
    before slicing.

    Marion Lowery, Medford, Oregon

    Makes: 2 loaves (12 servings each)

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Oct 25 20:02:17 2024
    Hi Dave,


    How old was your brother at the time? My parents both passed away when
    all of their children were grown/gone so there was no need for any guardianship issues.

    He was 14. So I raised/supervised/advised him for four years before he

    An age where the right kind of supervision will turn the kid into a
    good young man.

    So long as he thought I was advising him on "how "to get away with"
    stuff he paid attention.

    Like how to get apples for apple pie? (G)


    joined the Navy where he learned two widely divergent trades. Cooking
    and underwater welding. He was running the kitchen at the Pensacola
    Naval Air Station's officer's club when he fund that underwater

    Sounds like he turned out well. Interesting that the Navy let him
    pursue 2 such widely divergent career paths.

    Whilst doing the Navy's version of KP he was a cook's helper and he
    paid attention. Then his "A" school for training as a hull mantainence tech took him into a new class and taught him the underwater welding thing. And after graduation from that it was back to cook's helper
    until his orders came through assigning him to a ship.

    Unlike the Army where Steve went thru basic, language school and two
    other schools, then assigned to Fort Hood and put right to work. He
    spent the first 16 months of his enlistment in basic and schools.
    Original plan was 4 years and out but the opportunity to go to Germany
    for just short of 6 years made him decide to do 20. Then, at about
    18.5 years in, came the chance to go to Hawaii where he got promoted and
    wanted to do 3 years at that rank for a better retirement check. Four
    years turned into 26.


    Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with
    cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake
    from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup.

    Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles.

    Most anything fruity works well for waffles. (G)

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    Title: Picnic Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
    Yield: 10 Servings

    I've seen similar that have had a topping of crushed corn flakes so have
    never tried it. Maybe try something like this, but in a smaller
    quantity.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Oct 27 05:37:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Whilst doing the Navy's version of KP he was a cook's helper and he
    paid attention. Then his "A" school for training as a hull mantainence tech took him into a new class and taught him the underwater welding thing. And after graduation from that it was back to cook's helper
    until his orders came through assigning him to a ship.

    Unlike the Army where Steve went thru basic, language school and two
    other schools, then assigned to Fort Hood and put right to work. He
    spent the first 16 months of his enlistment in basic and schools.
    Original plan was 4 years and out but the opportunity to go to Germany
    for just short of 6 years made him decide to do 20. Then, at about
    18.5 years in, came the chance to go to Hawaii where he got promoted
    and wanted to do 3 years at that rank for a better retirement check.
    Four years turned into 26.

    When my enlistment was nearly up I was receruted haavily to re-up. I'd
    have been an E-7 before the end of the second hitch. But, I was (or I
    thought I was) in love and didn't want to go to Pyrees Greece or Spain.
    In retrospect I probably should have hung out for 30, took the pension
    and had a second, civilian, career.

    Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with
    cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake
    from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup.

    Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles.

    Most anything fruity works well for waffles. (G)

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    Title: Picnic Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
    Yield: 10 Servings

    I've seen similar that have had a topping of crushed corn flakes so
    have never tried it. Maybe try something like this, but in a smaller quantity.

    You could have subbed Wheaties, Grape-Nuts Flakes, or Bran Flakes for
    the Kellog's. Whoops, just checked - Wheaties contains corn - so it's
    a no-no. But Bran Flakes or All-Bran will work.

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    Title: Cauliflower Casserole
    Categories: Vegetables, Cheese, Dairy, Grains
    Yield: 8 servings

    1 md Head cauliflower; in
    - florets
    1 c Sour cream
    1 c Shredded Cheddar cheese
    1/2 c Crushed Bran Flakes cereal
    1/4 c Chopped bell pepper
    1/4 c Chopped red bell pepper
    1 ts Salt
    1/4 c Grated Parmesan cheese
    Paprika

    Set oven @ 325ºF/165ºC.

    Place 1" water in a saucepan; add cauliflower. Bring to
    a boil. Reduce heat; cover and simmer until
    crisp-tender, 5-10 minutes. Drain.

    In a large bowl, combine cauliflower, sour cream,
    cheddar cheese, cornflakes, peppers and salt; transfer
    to a greased 2 qt. baking dish. Sprinkle with Parmesan
    cheese and paprika.

    Bake, uncovered, until heated through, 30-35 minutes.

    Linda McGinty, Parma, Ohio

    Makes: 8 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Oct 27 19:47:18 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Unlike the Army where Steve went thru basic, language school and two
    other schools, then assigned to Fort Hood and put right to work. He
    spent the first 16 months of his enlistment in basic and schools.
    Original plan was 4 years and out but the opportunity to go to Germany
    for just short of 6 years made him decide to do 20. Then, at about
    18.5 years in, came the chance to go to Hawaii where he got promoted
    and wanted to do 3 years at that rank for a better retirement check.
    Four years turned into 26.

    When my enlistment was nearly up I was receruted haavily to re-up. I'd have been an E-7 before the end of the second hitch. But, I was (or I thought I was) in love and didn't want to go to Pyrees Greece or
    Spain. In retrospect I probably should have hung out for 30, took the pension
    and had a second, civilian, career.

    20/20 hindsight. I was somewhat hesitant when Steve told me about it but
    the longer he was in, the more I knew it was a smart choice and really
    enjoyed a lot of it. Didn't like the separations of course but he never
    did deploy to a war zone.


    Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with
    cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake
    from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup.

    Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles.

    Most anything fruity works well for waffles. (G)

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    Title: Picnic Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
    Yield: 10 Servings

    I've seen similar that have had a topping of crushed corn flakes so
    have never tried it. Maybe try something like this, but in a smaller quantity.

    You could have subbed Wheaties, Grape-Nuts Flakes, or Bran Flakes for
    the Kellog's. Whoops, just checked - Wheaties contains corn - so it's
    a no-no. But Bran Flakes or All-Bran will work.

    Or, use something like potato chips for a double potato dish.


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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Oct 29 04:48:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-


    20/20 hindsight. I was somewhat hesitant when Steve told me about it
    but the longer he was in, the more I knew it was a smart choice and
    really enjoyed a lot of it. Didn't like the separations of course but
    he never did deploy to a war zone.

    All the "lifers" that I know are glad they did it.

    Thanks for the head's up. I've not done a lot of cooking with
    cider/apple juice in any form tho I did get a recipe for apple cake
    from a friend that starts by reducing a quart of cider down to about a cup.

    Sounds like an apple syrup. Now, that's a syrup I'd eat on my waffles.

    Most anything fruity works well for waffles. (G)

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    Title: Picnic Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
    Yield: 10 Servings

    I've seen similar that have had a topping of crushed corn flakes so
    have never tried it. Maybe try something like this, but in a smaller quantity.

    You could have subbed Wheaties, Grape-Nuts Flakes, or Bran Flakes for
    the Kellog's. Whoops, just checked - Wheaties contains corn - so it's
    a no-no. But Bran Flakes or All-Bran will work.

    Or, use something like potato chips for a double potato dish.

    Or Ritz crackers if you don't want the extra salt that comes w/tater
    chips.

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    Title: Baked Mashed Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Dairy, Cheese, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 lb Potatoes; peeled, quartered
    1/4 c Milk
    1/2 ts Salt
    2 tb Butter; melted, divided
    1 lg Egg; beaten
    8 oz Dairy sour cream
    1 c Small-curd cottage cheese
    5 Green onions; fine chopped
    1/2 c Crushed butter-flavored Ritz
    - style crackers

    Cook potatoes until tender; drain. Place in a large bowl.
    Add milk, salt and 1 Tbsp butter; beat until light and
    fluffy. Fold in egg, sour cream, cottage cheese and
    onions. Place in a greased 1 1/2-qt baking dish.

    Combine the cracker crumbs and remaining butter; sprinkle
    over potato mixture.

    Bake, uncovered, at 350oF/175oC for 20-30 mintues or until
    crumbs are lightly browned.

    Recipe By: Darlis Wilfer - ToH Oct/Nov 95

    From: Sean Coate

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Oct 29 14:12:15 2024
    Hi Dave,

    20/20 hindsight. I was somewhat hesitant when Steve told me about it
    but the longer he was in, the more I knew it was a smart choice and
    really enjoyed a lot of it. Didn't like the separations of course but
    he never did deploy to a war zone.

    All the "lifers" that I know are glad they did it.

    It's a steady job with little (but some) chance of a lay off. If you go
    in young enough, you'll retire with enough years yet for a 2nd career
    and have 2 retirement checks. Steve didn't do that but with Social
    Security, retirement and disability pay, we're able to meet our bills
    and have a bit left over.


    Title: Picnic Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
    Yield: 10 Servings

    I've seen similar that have had a topping of crushed corn flakes so
    have never tried it. Maybe try something like this, but in a smaller quantity.

    You could have subbed Wheaties, Grape-Nuts Flakes, or Bran Flakes for
    the Kellog's. Whoops, just checked - Wheaties contains corn - so it's
    a no-no. But Bran Flakes or All-Bran will work.

    Or, use something like potato chips for a double potato dish.

    Or Ritz crackers if you don't want the extra salt that comes w/tater chips.

    True, there's usually a work around for most anything if you look hard
    enough.


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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Oct 31 10:38:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    20/20 hindsight. I was somewhat hesitant when Steve told me about it
    but the longer he was in, the more I knew it was a smart choice and
    really enjoyed a lot of it. Didn't like the separations of course but
    he never did deploy to a war zone.

    All the "lifers" that I know are glad they did it.

    It's a steady job with little (but some) chance of a lay off. If you go
    in young enough, you'll retire with enough years yet for a 2nd career
    and have 2 retirement checks. Steve didn't do that but with Social Security, retirement and disability pay, we're able to meet our bills
    and have a bit left over.

    My brother, Phil, didn't do a full career in the military. When he got
    back from Vietnam he signed up for the apprenticeship in the Plumbers, Pipefitters & Boilermakers. Did that for 40 years - the last 20 or so as
    the heating & AC guy for the local school board which gave him two nice
    pension cheques. And his wife retired from cooking lunches and running cafeterias for the school district - so they have three decent whacks of
    $$$ pluse social security for both.

    Me? All I've got is social security. Which I could scrape by on. But I'm
    still working part-time @ AutoZone because it helps pad-out the SSI but
    more because I enjoy helping people and enjoy the job. Not to mention it
    gets me away from sitting my rusty-dusty and pounding on the confuser keys.

    Bv)=

    Title: Picnic Potatoes
    Categories: Potatoes, Soups, Casseroles
    Yield: 10 Servings

    I've seen similar that have had a topping of crushed corn flakes so
    have never tried it. Maybe try something like this, but in a smaller quantity.

    You could have subbed Wheaties, Grape-Nuts Flakes, or Bran Flakes for
    the Kellog's. Whoops, just checked - Wheaties contains corn - so it's
    a no-no. But Bran Flakes or All-Bran will work.

    Or, use something like potato chips for a double potato dish.

    Or Ritz crackers if you don't want the extra salt that comes w/tater chips.

    True, there's usually a work around for most anything if you look hard enough.

    Ritz crackers is not a stretch. Especially when I figured uot what the
    recipe writer was talking about with the call for "butter flavoured"
    crackers.

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    Title: Ritzy Cheddar Chicken Breasts
    Categories: Poultry, Breads, Cheese, Dairy
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 tb Olive oil; more for greasing
    - rack
    1/4 c Sour cream
    1 lg Egg white
    1 ts Dijon mustard
    Salt
    1 1/2 lb (2 lg) boned, skinned
    - chicken breasts
    1 Sleeve (100 g) Ritz
    - crackers
    2 oz Extra-sharp Cheddar cheese;
    - coarse grated
    1/2 ts Garlic powder
    1/2 ts Onion powder

    Position rack in the bottom third of the oven and set
    oven to 450┬║F/232┬║C. Place an ovenproof wire rack over a
    sheet pan. Dab a folded-up paper towel with olive oil
    and rub it over the wire rack to grease it.

    In a medium bowl, whisk together the sour cream, egg
    white and Dijon mustard until smooth. Season with salt.
    Lay the chicken flat on a cutting board and carve each
    breast in half horizontally so you end up with four thin
    cutlets. Add the chicken to the sour cream mixture, and
    using your hands, smear the sour cream all over the
    chicken.

    In a large bowl, crush the Ritz crackers into coarse
    pieces with your fingers. Some crackers will turn to
    rubble while others turn to dust. Add the cheese, garlic
    powder, onion powder and olive oil. Season with 1/2
    teaspoon salt and toss until evenly distributed. Holding
    one of the chicken cutlets by its thinner end, add to
    the bowl with the crumbs, and using your hands, pack the
    crumbs onto the chicken, pressing them in to create a
    thick coating. Transfer the breaded chicken to the rack
    in the sheet pan. Repeat with the remaining three
    cutlets.

    Bake the cutlets until the outsides are crispy and the
    insides are no longer pink, 10 to 15 minutes. Let the
    chicken cool slightly so the coating can set, about 5
    minutes, before transferring to plates and serving.

    By: Eric Kim

    Yield: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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