• Migrating bookmarks, 32 to 64 bit system

    From bob prohaska@3:770/3 to All on Sat Jan 14 18:03:51 2023
    How does one migrate Chrome browser bookmarks between 32 bit and 64 bit
    Pi systems?

    I tried exporting bookmarks on the 32 bit system, booting the 64 bit
    system and mounting the old root file systme, then importing the saved
    bookmark file. That produced a permissions denied error

    Next I copied the bookmarks file to the 64 bit system and discovered
    the file was owned by root. Changing ownership to my username causes
    the import command to claim the import was successful, but the saved
    bookmarks aren't displayed.

    I'm guessing this problem has something to do with permissions mismatch,
    but it didn't get fixed by a simple chown command.

    Thanks for reading, any guidance appreciated.

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  • From Marco Moock@3:770/3 to All on Sat Jan 14 20:06:51 2023
    Am 14.01.2023 um 18:03:51 Uhr schrieb bob prohaska:

    How does one migrate Chrome browser bookmarks between 32 bit and 64
    bit Pi systems?

    Can you export them as HTML?

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  • From bob prohaska@3:770/3 to Marco Moock on Sat Jan 14 19:55:06 2023
    Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
    Am 14.01.2023 um 18:03:51 Uhr schrieb bob prohaska:

    How does one migrate Chrome browser bookmarks between 32 bit and 64
    bit Pi systems?

    Can you export them as HTML?

    That's what I did.

    The problem doesn't seem to be with chrome, it's got something
    to do with user permissions. The old system came with the default
    pi user, plus a regular account which I used for the browser.

    The new system has only the user account created when first booted.
    Both user account names are the same, but presumably the user id
    numbers are different. I thought matching names would be sufficient
    to let me read the old files from the new host, but apparently not.

    If I try to traverse the old filesystem from the new root system using
    the file manager I see see some files and directories, but quite a
    few are hidden. In one case I was able to open a graphic, and then
    got a belated permission denied message that didn't actually do anything.

    That suggests something wrong with permissions handling, but whether
    on the new or old system is unclear.

    Thanks for reading and replying!

    bob prohaska

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  • From Martin Gregorie@3:770/3 to bob prohaska on Sat Jan 14 20:25:46 2023
    On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 19:55:06 -0000 (UTC), bob prohaska wrote:

    Marco Moock <mo01@posteo.de> wrote:
    Am 14.01.2023 um 18:03:51 Uhr schrieb bob prohaska:

    How does one migrate Chrome browser bookmarks between 32 bit and 64
    bit Pi systems?

    Can you export them as HTML?

    That's what I did.

    The problem doesn't seem to be with chrome, it's got something to do
    with user permissions. The old system came with the default pi user,
    plus a regular account which I used for the browser.

    The new system has only the user account created when first booted.
    Both user account names are the same, but presumably the user id numbers
    are different. I thought matching names would be sufficient to let me
    read the old files from the new host, but apparently not.

    If I try to traverse the old filesystem from the new root system using
    the file manager I see see some files and directories, but quite a few
    are hidden. In one case I was able to open a graphic, and then got a
    belated permission denied message that didn't actually do anything.

    That suggests something wrong with permissions handling, but whether on
    the new or old system is unclear.

    Its easy to compare the numeric values associated with user and group
    names: either look at the file(s) you're transferring worth 'ls -l' or as
    root use 'less' to read /etc/passwd for both computers (uid and gid are
    fields 3 and 4).

    Once you know uid and gid for both systems, it should be possible to
    modify the files you're importing to suit the system you're importing them
    to - providing to can discover the file formats that chrome uses for
    bookmarks. Don't ask me about that: I don't use the chrome browser,only firefox, brave and lynx, which do everything I need.


    --

    Martin | martin at
    Gregorie | gregorie dot org

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  • From Ralph Spitzner@3:770/3 to bob prohaska on Sat Jan 14 23:16:32 2023
    bob prohaska wrote on 1/14/23 7:03 PM:
    How does one migrate Chrome browser bookmarks between 32 bit and 64 bit
    Pi systems?
    why do you not sync it with google ?

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  • From Marco Moock@3:770/3 to All on Sun Jan 15 10:44:20 2023
    Am 14.01.2023 um 19:55:06 Uhr schrieb bob prohaska:

    The problem doesn't seem to be with chrome, it's got something
    to do with user permissions. The old system came with the default
    pi user, plus a regular account which I used for the browser.

    The new system has only the user account created when first booted.
    Both user account names are the same, but presumably the user id
    numbers are different. I thought matching names would be sufficient
    to let me read the old files from the new host, but apparently not.

    You can run sudo chown new-user file.

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  • From bob prohaska@3:770/3 to Martin Gregorie on Sun Jan 15 15:58:20 2023
    Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
    Its easy to compare the numeric values associated with user and group
    names: either look at the file(s) you're transferring worth 'ls -l' or as root use 'less' to read /etc/passwd for both computers (uid and gid are fields 3 and 4).


    At least part of the trouble is that I didn't recognize the bookmarks
    display after importing. The old system displayed them individually below
    the URL bar. The new system displays the imported bookmarks as a folder,
    below the URL bar and I didn't notice 8-(


    Once you know uid and gid for both systems, it should be possible to
    modify the files you're importing to suit the system you're importing them

    It looks as if sudo works very differently between new and old systems.
    I'm no longer prompted for a password when I use sudo, and when I used
    sudo to copy the bookmarks file from the old filesystem to the new one
    the file owner changed (without comment) to root. It appears that change
    was the cause of my difficulties.

    Thanks for writing!

    bob prohaska

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  • From A. Dumas@3:770/3 to bob prohaska on Sun Jan 15 16:36:05 2023
    bob prohaska <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
    It looks as if sudo works very differently between new and old systems.
    I'm no longer prompted for a password when I use sudo, and when I used
    sudo to copy the bookmarks file from the old filesystem to the new one
    the file owner changed (without comment) to root. It appears that change
    was the cause of my difficulties.

    Two things: PiOS never required typing a password for root. If your old
    system did, you changed it manually (with visudo). And copying with sudo
    always chowns to root.

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  • From Deloptes@3:770/3 to Ralph Spitzner on Mon Jan 16 10:46:14 2023
    Ralph Spitzner wrote:

    why do you not sync it with google ?

    what a stupid question, sorry

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  • From bob prohaska@3:770/3 to A. Dumas on Mon Jan 16 20:18:53 2023
    A. Dumas <alexandre@dumas.fr.invalid> wrote:
    bob prohaska <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
    It looks as if sudo works very differently between new and old systems.
    I'm no longer prompted for a password when I use sudo, and when I used
    sudo to copy the bookmarks file from the old filesystem to the new one
    the file owner changed (without comment) to root. It appears that change
    was the cause of my difficulties.

    Two things: PiOS never required typing a password for root. If your old system did, you changed it manually (with visudo). And copying with sudo always chowns to root.

    Thanks for the clarification!

    bob prohaska

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  • From Pancho@3:770/3 to A. Dumas on Tue Jan 17 18:02:00 2023
    On 15/01/2023 16:36, A. Dumas wrote:
    bob prohaska <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
    It looks as if sudo works very differently between new and old systems.
    I'm no longer prompted for a password when I use sudo, and when I used
    sudo to copy the bookmarks file from the old filesystem to the new one
    the file owner changed (without comment) to root. It appears that change
    was the cause of my difficulties.

    Two things: PiOS never required typing a password for root. If your old system did, you changed it manually (with visudo). And copying with sudo always chowns to root.

    sudo cp -p does not chown to root:

    see man cp
    -p same as --preserve=mode,ownership,timestamps


    very useful it is, too.

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  • From Ralph Spitzner@3:770/3 to Deloptes on Sun Jan 29 13:16:41 2023
    Deloptes wrote on 1/16/23 10:46 AM:
    Ralph Spitzner wrote:

    why do you not sync it with google ?

    what a stupid question, sorry


    what exactly is stupid with syncing from the 32bit system to google and
    then syncing the 64bit system from google ?
    it's bookmarks this thread is about, so why go mess with permissions et
    al just to move over bookmarks from one chrome to the other ?
    or was he talking about some de-googled version of _chromium_ ?

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