• Has everyone died?

    From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to All on Thu Jan 25 12:06:31 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    Gone extremely quiet..

    --
    “The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to
    fill the world with fools.”

    Herbert Spencer

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  • From nev young@3:770/3 to All on Thu Jan 25 14:13:11 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 25/01/2024 13:54, D wrote:


    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, immibis wrote:

    On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in
    the world.


    I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.

    But I'll shoot in a new question!

    I use a raspberry 3a+ for my tv, and it is great although a bit
    underpowered for kodi. The reason I choose that model is that it fits.
    Due to the big port module on a 3b those bigger boards don't fit.

    Does anyone know of something similar to the 3a+ but in modern form with
    a bit more power and cpu?

    Sadly the raspberry 4 and 5 seem to double down on the big form factor
    and it is too big to fit behind my tv. =(

    Pi Zero 2w perhaps.

    --
    Nev
    It causes me a great deal of regret and remorse
    that so many people are unable to understand what I write.

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  • From D@3:770/3 to immibis on Thu Jan 25 14:54:29 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, immibis wrote:

    On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in the world.


    I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.

    But I'll shoot in a new question!

    I use a raspberry 3a+ for my tv, and it is great although a bit
    underpowered for kodi. The reason I choose that model is that it fits.
    Due to the big port module on a 3b those bigger boards don't fit.

    Does anyone know of something similar to the 3a+ but in modern form with a
    bit more power and cpu?

    Sadly the raspberry 4 and 5 seem to double down on the big form factor and
    it is too big to fit behind my tv. =(

    Best regards,
    Daniel

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  • From immibis@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Jan 25 14:33:11 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in
    the world.

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  • From Marco Moock@3:770/3 to All on Thu Jan 25 16:06:27 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    Am 25.01.2024 schrieb D <nospam@example.net>:

    But I'll shoot in a new question!

    Please do that in a new thread.

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  • From John McCue@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Jan 25 15:00:18 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    Follow-ups trimmed to: comp.os.linux.misc

    In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    I think the google groups filter is working, so google group
    people goes to the bit bitbucket in the sky :)


    --
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  • From rek2 hispagatos@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Jan 25 15:16:52 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
    On 2024-01-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..


    no Spam, good :) we are around, reading :)

    Happy Hacking
    ReK2

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  • From Andy Burns@3:770/3 to John McCue on Thu Jan 25 15:59:12 2024
    John McCue wrote:

    Follow-ups trimmed to: comp.os.linux.misc

    Replying only to: comp.sys.raspberry-pi

    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Gone extremely quiet..

    I think the google groups filter is working

    There's no general G2 filter, the various news server admins worked hard
    to just filter spam from G2, instead of everything. Individual users
    may have their own filter, mine marks-as-read messages from G2 users who
    aren't whitelisted, but it also tags them, so I can spot new candidates
    for my whitelist.

    It turns out that in the rPi group there's only been one G2 user
    (Nelson) since october (not counting gmail users who don't use G2).

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Joerg Lorenz on Thu Jan 25 16:31:38 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 25/01/2024 16:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    On 25.01.24 14:33, immibis wrote:
    On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in
    the world.

    Nonsense.

    What happened is that all those AOL people moved to twatter and faecesbook

    --
    Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people.
    But Marxism is the crack cocaine.

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@3:770/3 to immibis on Thu Jan 25 17:29:17 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 25.01.24 14:33, immibis wrote:
    On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in
    the world.

    Nonsense.

    --
    "Manus manum lavat."

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  • From Andy Burns@3:770/3 to kyonshi on Thu Jan 25 18:11:45 2024
    kyonshi wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:


    It turns out that in the rPi group there's only been one G2 user
    (Nelson) since october (not counting gmail users who don't use G2).

    lots of people just use gmail because it's convenient

    yes, but plenty of people who have a gmail address use real nntp servers instead of google groups, some folks elsewhere concocted their own
    filters binning everyone matching
    from:*@gmail.com
    instead of
    message-id:*@googlegroups.com

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  • From Charlie Gibbs@3:770/3 to Andy Burns on Thu Jan 25 18:37:10 2024
    On 2024-01-25, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    kyonshi wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:


    It turns out that in the rPi group there's only been one G2 user
    (Nelson) since october (not counting gmail users who don't use G2).

    lots of people just use gmail because it's convenient

    Yes, and as we all know, convenience trumps everything: cost, efficiency, security, even personal safety. (The latter might not apply to Usenet,
    but it does to things like the 737 MAX.)

    yes, but plenty of people who have a gmail address use real nntp servers instead of google groups, some folks elsewhere concocted their own
    filters binning everyone matching
    from:*@gmail.com
    instead of
    message-id:*@googlegroups.com

    I've found that the massive flood of spam which has hit many newsgroups contains a tell-tale "Injection-Info" header. I use slrn, and by adding stanzas like the following to ~/News/Source:

    [comp.*.*]
    Score: =-9999
    Expires: 9/14/2024
    Injection-Info: google*
    Newsgroup: comp\.*\.*

    I lose all the spam while still seeing legitimate messages
    from gmail vict^H^H^H^Husers.

    --
    /~\ Charlie Gibbs | The Internet is like a big city:
    \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | it has plenty of bright lights and
    X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | excitement, but also dark alleys
    / \ if you read it the right way. | down which the unwary get mugged.

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  • From D@3:770/3 to nev young on Thu Jan 25 20:01:38 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, nev young wrote:

    On 25/01/2024 13:54, D wrote:


    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, immibis wrote:

    On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in the >>> world.


    I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.

    But I'll shoot in a new question!

    I use a raspberry 3a+ for my tv, and it is great although a bit
    underpowered for kodi. The reason I choose that model is that it fits. Due >> to the big port module on a 3b those bigger boards don't fit.

    Does anyone know of something similar to the 3a+ but in modern form with a >> bit more power and cpu?

    Sadly the raspberry 4 and 5 seem to double down on the big form factor and >> it is too big to fit behind my tv. =(

    Pi Zero 2w perhaps.

    Not powerful enough I'm afraid, but thank you for the tip.

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  • From D@3:770/3 to Andy Burns on Thu Jan 25 20:05:14 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024, Andy Burns wrote:

    D wrote:

    I use a raspberry 3a+ for my tv, and it is great although a bit
    underpowered for kodi.

    I have a Pi 3Bv1.2 and found it was pretty good as a TV front-end

    The reason I choose that model is that it fits. Due to the big port module >> on a 3b those bigger boards don't fit.

    Dunno about the space, must be pretty tight behind your TV if a couple of usb/eth ports stop it fitting?

    Correct. I have a very flat Oled tv and power sockets in the middle of the wall, so I have about 1 cm or so between the tv and the wall. Just enough
    for an 3a+.

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  • From Andy Burns@3:770/3 to All on Thu Jan 25 18:39:24 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    D wrote:

    I use a raspberry 3a+ for my tv, and it is great although a bit
    underpowered for kodi.

    I have a Pi 3Bv1.2 and found it was pretty good as a TV front-end

    The reason I choose that model is that it fits.
    Due to the big port module on a 3b those bigger boards don't fit.

    Dunno about the space, must be pretty tight behind your TV if a couple
    of usb/eth ports stop it fitting?

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@3:770/3 to All on Thu Jan 25 22:07:34 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:54:29 +0100, D wrote:

    I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.

    In the old USENET, that would never have happened ...

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  • From immibis@3:770/3 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Jan 26 03:42:07 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 1/25/24 23:07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:54:29 +0100, D wrote:

    I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.

    In the old USENET, that would never have happened ...

    Did you hear there was drama about window icons?

    A GNOME developer wants applications to register their icon in their
    .desktop file. An application which uses several different window icons
    must register several different .desktop files in the system
    applications list.

    Everyone else says: no, that's a really stupid idea.

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  • From 68g.1499@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Jan 25 22:55:00 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 1/25/24 11:31 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 16:29, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
    On 25.01.24 14:33, immibis wrote:
    On 1/25/24 13:06, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    Usenet died a couple of decades ago. Be the change you want to see in
    the world.

    Nonsense.

    What happened is that all those AOL people moved to twatter and faecesbook

    And ALL FOR THE BETTER !!! :-)

    Though we still have our share of trolls/idiots.

    Ah, cleaning out my office, found a Kodak #2a Autographic Junior
    (130 film) a #1 Junior (120 film) and a couple of other folders.
    Bellows look OK, but could spray black plastic 'rubber' inside
    if there are any pinholes. Also a Kodak brown bakelite box
    Brownie (620).

    Found a vid on YT ... some guy took a #2a and made trick spools
    and a mask augment so it'd work with 120 as a panoramic cam.
    The 130 was a bit wider, ergo the need. He even took some pix
    with it, not TOO bad considering the crude lens/shutter. 130
    was "postcard size" around WW-1. Can't find the ISO ... maybe
    100 ? Shutter speeds are 1/25 and 1/50

    The Autographic is interesting - a small long hatch in the back
    JUST big enough for a writ one-line note/date - which would get
    burned into the edge of the neg.

    Oh, one cam says "N.C. Cartridge 120" ... but extensive searching
    does not explain what that IS. The "Cartridge" might just mean "roll",
    not the pre-formed plastic cartridges more popular in the 60s/70s
    InstaMatics).

    All the folder cams were kinda 1915-1925 vintage plus or minus.
    Must have found them in junk shops and then forgotten.

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  • From Michael Uplawski@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Fri Jan 26 06:19:15 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    Good morning

    The Natural Philosopher wrote in comp.sys.raspberry-pi,comp.os.linux.misc:

    Gone extremely quiet..

    Most would not know, but I have always been here. That does not make it a crowd, but I might add another definition of dying (as in “has everyone died?”).
    Having nothing to contribute, I try to keep quiet. But that is not all.

    When you notice that you can put the inverser to neutral while descending backwards with a trailer full of firewood attached to your tractor, because the darned thing is mounted too low and your knee touches it all the time.., or when that tree was hollow and rotated upon the first touch with the chainsaw, when the most intelligent fox in the world is the one watching your chicken..,

    then this dead dumb machine just loses a lot of its charm. Nothing that I can do with it is important. None of it is beautiful in most senses of the expression and probably bereft of all utility, anyway.

    Cheerio

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  • From Michael Uplawski@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Fri Jan 26 06:22:38 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    Supersedes for negation.

    Good morning

    The Natural Philosopher wrote in comp.sys.raspberry-pi,comp.os.linux.misc:

    Gone extremely quiet..

    Most would not know, but I have always been here. That does not make it a crowd, but I might add another definition of dying (as in “has everyone died?”).
    Having nothing to contribute, I try to keep quiet. But that is not all.

    When you notice that you can put the inverser to neutral while descending backwards with a trailer full of firewood attached to your tractor, because the darned thing is mounted too low and your knee touches it all the time.., or when that tree was hollow and rotated upon the first touch with the chainsaw, when the most intelligent fox in the world is the one watching your chicken..,

    then this dead dumb machine just loses a lot of its charm. Nothing that I can do with it is important. None of it is beautiful in most senses of the expression and all is probably bereft of all utility, anyway.

    Cheerio

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  • From TimS@3:770/3 to immibis on Fri Jan 26 10:31:52 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 26 Jan 2024 at 02:42:07 GMT, "immibis" <news@immibis.com> wrote:

    On 1/25/24 23:07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:54:29 +0100, D wrote:

    I think the Wayland dialogue exhausted itself.

    In the old USENET, that would never have happened ...

    Did you hear there was drama about window icons?

    A GNOME developer wants applications to register their icon in their
    .desktop file. An application which uses several different window icons
    must register several different .desktop files in the system
    applications list.

    Everyone else says: no, that's a really stupid idea.

    ... along with the .desktop files themselves.

    --
    Tim

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  • From Another Dave@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Fri Jan 26 15:34:28 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 25/01/2024 12:06 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    The only thing that's new is the PI 5 and nobody can get one?

    Another Dave
    --
    Change nospam to techie

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Another Dave on Fri Jan 26 16:38:46 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 26/01/2024 15:34, Another Dave wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 12:06 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    The only thing that's new is the PI 5 and nobody can get one?

    In stock at my local PiSuppplier...

    https://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-5

    I will probably get one, but a 3D printer is higher priority right now...


    --
    The higher up the mountainside
    The greener grows the grass.
    The higher up the monkey climbs
    The more he shows his arse.

    Traditional

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  • From John McCue@3:770/3 to immibis on Fri Jan 26 16:34:07 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    Followups trimmed to: comp.os.linux.misc

    In comp.os.linux.misc immibis <news@immibis.com> wrote:
    On 1/25/24 23:07, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    <snip>

    Did you hear there was drama about window icons?

    A GNOME developer wants applications to register their icon in their
    .desktop file. An application which uses several different window icons
    must register several different .desktop files in the system
    applications list.

    Everyone else says: no, that's a really stupid idea.

    I think that may be a Wayland thing. I wonder if this is
    what you are referring to ?

    https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/269

    If so, thanks, your post clarified that post a bit for me :)


    --
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  • From Another Dave@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Fri Jan 26 18:00:47 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 26/01/2024 4:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 26/01/2024 15:34, Another Dave wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 12:06 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    The only thing that's new is the PI 5 and nobody can get one?

    In stock at my local PiSuppplier...

    https://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-5

    Yeah, I just got the email. Maybe things will liven up a bit here.


    I will probably get one, but a 3D printer is higher priority right now...


    I've just 3D printed a couple of padding pieces for the ends of a roller
    blind which didn't fit properly. Probably overkill but you never know
    what you can use a printer for unless you've got one.



    --
    Change nospam to techie

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Another Dave on Fri Jan 26 19:05:36 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 26/01/2024 18:00, Another Dave wrote:
    On 26/01/2024 4:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 26/01/2024 15:34, Another Dave wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 12:06 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    The only thing that's new is the PI 5 and nobody can get one?

    In stock at my local PiSuppplier...

    https://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-5

    Yeah, I just got the email. Maybe things will liven up a bit here.


    I will probably get one, but a 3D printer is higher priority right now...


    I've just 3D printed a couple of padding pieces for the ends of a roller blind which didn't fit properly. Probably overkill but you never know
    what you can use a printer for unless you've got one.



    I've had so many pi cases printed by a mate its getting
    embarrassing...and I have at least two more.

    Just unsure what printer to get.

    --
    "An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out
    only in others...”

    Tom Wolfe

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@3:770/3 to TimS on Fri Jan 26 21:09:39 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 26 Jan 2024 10:31:52 GMT, TimS wrote:

    On 26 Jan 2024 at 02:42:07 GMT, "immibis" <news@immibis.com> wrote:

    Everyone else says: no, that's a really stupid idea.

    ... along with the .desktop files themselves.

    Desktop files are a pretty cool idea <https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktop-entry-spec/>.
    Besides offering clickable icons, they are also used to define custom
    menu items
    <https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/menu-spec/>. They are
    also used to define those “new document” right-click items you see in common file managers.

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Sat Jan 27 06:59:54 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I've had so many pi cases printed by a mate its getting
    embarrassing...and I have at least two more.

    I usually put such things in old tins or boxes with the required
    holes cut into them. It's quicker than 3D printing, though the
    results aren't pretty.

    Just unsure what printer to get.

    Consider whether you want the option of using ABS. Some will only
    use PLA, but ABS is stronger and longer-lasting, though printing
    with it is stinkier and trickier.

    --
    __ __
    #_ < |\| |< _# | Note: I won't see posts made from Google Groups |

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  • From immibis@3:770/3 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Jan 26 22:39:52 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 1/26/24 22:09, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On 26 Jan 2024 10:31:52 GMT, TimS wrote:

    On 26 Jan 2024 at 02:42:07 GMT, "immibis" <news@immibis.com> wrote:

    Everyone else says: no, that's a really stupid idea.

    ... along with the .desktop files themselves.

    Desktop files are a pretty cool idea <https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktop-entry-spec/>. Besides offering clickable icons, they are also used to define custom
    menu items
    <https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/menu-spec/>. They are
    also used to define those “new document” right-click items you see in common file managers.

    When a desktop file is used as an entry on your desktop, that's fine.
    When a developer insists that every application on your system must have
    a desktop file unrelated to it being on your desktop or in any menu,
    that's a bit crazy.

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:770/3 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sat Jan 27 07:26:16 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    In comp.sys.raspberry-pi Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On 26 Jan 2024 10:31:52 GMT, TimS wrote:
    On 26 Jan 2024 at 02:42:07 GMT, "immibis" <news@immibis.com> wrote:
    Everyone else says: no, that's a really stupid idea.

    ... along with the .desktop files themselves.

    Desktop files are a pretty cool idea

    They're way over-complicated and always breaking with distro
    upgrades, I avoid them as much as possible. Maybe there's a cool
    idea in there somewhere, but the implementation is a disaster.

    --
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@3:770/3 to Computer Nerd Kev on Fri Jan 26 23:56:13 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 27 Jan 2024 07:26:16 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

    They're way over-complicated and always breaking with distro
    upgrades ...

    Not sure why, since their format hasn’t changed for years.

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  • From Bob Martin@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Sat Jan 27 07:10:09 2024
    On 26 Jan 2024 at 19:05:36, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 26/01/2024 18:00, Another Dave wrote:
    On 26/01/2024 4:38 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 26/01/2024 15:34, Another Dave wrote:
    On 25/01/2024 12:06 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Gone extremely quiet..

    The only thing that's new is the PI 5 and nobody can get one?

    In stock at my local PiSuppplier...

    https://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-5

    Yeah, I just got the email. Maybe things will liven up a bit here.


    I will probably get one, but a 3D printer is higher priority right now... >>>

    I've just 3D printed a couple of padding pieces for the ends of a roller
    blind which didn't fit properly. Probably overkill but you never know
    what you can use a printer for unless you've got one.



    I've had so many pi cases printed by a mate its getting
    embarrassing...and I have at least two more.

    Just unsure what printer to get.

    Ender 3 Pro will meet your needs.
    It's good with ABS.

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  • From Andy Burns@3:770/3 to Andy Burns on Sat Jan 27 09:16:16 2024
    Andy Burns wrote:

    Bob Martin wrote:

    Ender 3 Pro will meet your needs.

    You might as well get one with Klipper firmware

    Which from Creality, would be an Ender-3 V3 KE

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Computer Nerd Kev on Sat Jan 27 09:52:14 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 26/01/2024 20:59, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    In comp.os.linux.misc The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    I've had so many pi cases printed by a mate its getting
    embarrassing...and I have at least two more.

    I usually put such things in old tins or boxes with the required
    holes cut into them. It's quicker than 3D printing, though the
    results aren't pretty.

    Just unsure what printer to get.

    Consider whether you want the option of using ABS. Some will only
    use PLA, but ABS is stronger and longer-lasting, though printing
    with it is stinkier and trickier.

    Thanks for that.
    --
    "Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social
    conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the
    windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) "

    Alan Sokal

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  • From TimS@3:770/3 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sat Jan 27 12:02:12 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 26 Jan 2024 at 21:09:39 GMT, "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On 26 Jan 2024 10:31:52 GMT, TimS wrote:

    On 26 Jan 2024 at 02:42:07 GMT, "immibis" <news@immibis.com> wrote:

    Everyone else says: no, that's a really stupid idea.

    ... along with the .desktop files themselves.

    Desktop files are a pretty cool idea <https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktop-entry-spec/>. Besides offering clickable icons, they are also used to define custom
    menu items
    <https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/menu-spec/>. They are
    also used to define those “new document” right-click items you see in common file managers.

    All of that functionality should be available from the GUI.

    --
    Tim

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  • From Ahem A Rivet's Shot@3:770/3 to Andy Burns on Sat Jan 27 15:04:17 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 08:44:02 +0000
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    You might as well get one with Klipper firmware nowadays, most printers
    have 300°C hotends now so can do ABS (might need a home-brewed shroud
    round it to keep draughts away to prevent warping).

    I'm about to get a Ratrig Vcore 3.1 (the 300mm cube size) thanks
    to an unexpected bonus. I'll report back on it (much) later. It's on topic
    too since it has a Pi to run the RatOS preconfigured Klipper. Not the
    cheapest but it's a brute of a printer.

    --
    Steve O'Hara-Smith
    Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
    For forms of government let fools contest
    Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

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  • From Andy Burns@3:770/3 to Ahem A Rivet's Shot on Sat Jan 27 15:42:43 2024
    Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

    I'm about to get a Ratrig Vcore 3.1

    Nice ... coreXY models do appeal, as do as IDEX models. But in the end
    I just went for an easy to assemble bed-slinger, rather than a printer
    which becomes a project in itself.

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  • From Another Dave@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Sat Jan 27 17:32:44 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 26/01/2024 7:05 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I've had so many pi cases printed by a mate its getting
    embarrassing...and I have at least two more.

    Just unsure what printer to get.


    I don't want to get into yet another dispute about which is best, PLA or
    ABS except to say that in the 5 years I've had a printer I've never felt
    the need to stop using PLA (which your printer will come with). It's the cheapest (<£15 a kilo), easiest to print and more than tough enough.

    Times have changed but I bought a kit (I enjoy building kits and it
    helps to understand what's going on) for just under £100 including
    postage. I bought the Tronxy version of this

    http://tinyurl.com/4m34d7cm

    It's based on an open source design (both hardware and firmware) and if
    you use the PI software from OctoPrint.org (also open source) it's
    equivalent to Klipper which is an unknown quantity to me.

    Another source of dispute is whether metal frames are better than
    plastic. My plastic frame has been admirable. Much more important is
    that the printer should rest on a solid, level bench/table that doesn't
    shake.

    Another Dave

    --
    Change nospam to techie

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  • From Ahem A Rivet's Shot@3:770/3 to Andy Burns on Sat Jan 27 18:45:57 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 15:42:43 +0000
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

    I'm about to get a Ratrig Vcore 3.1

    Nice ... coreXY models do appeal, as do as IDEX models. But in the end
    I just went for an easy to assemble bed-slinger, rather than a printer
    which becomes a project in itself.

    I have to admit I was considering the V-Minion - until the extra
    bonus appeared.

    --
    Steve O'Hara-Smith
    Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
    For forms of government let fools contest
    Whate're is best administered is best - Alexander Pope

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@3:770/3 to TimS on Sat Jan 27 21:31:38 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 27 Jan 2024 12:02:12 GMT, TimS wrote:

    On 26 Jan 2024 at 21:09:39 GMT, "Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid>
    wrote:

    Desktop files are a pretty cool idea
    <https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktop-entry-spec/>.
    Besides offering clickable icons, they are also used to define custom
    menu items
    <https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/menu-spec/>. They are
    also used to define those “new document” right-click items you see in
    common file managers.

    All of that functionality should be available from the GUI.

    They are. That’s what desktop files allow.

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  • From Jack Strangio@3:770/3 to Joerg Lorenz on Sun Jan 28 03:22:42 2024
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> writes:
    --
    "Manus manum lavat."
    "And both hands wash the face"


    One of my Italian father's sayings. Probably goes back centuries.

    :)

    Jack

    --
    She came late to bed at 3AM. "You're drunk" I said.
    She asked "How do you know?"
    "You live next door." I replied.

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