I just noticed that even in plain ASCII and UTF-8 exports of one of the
org texts I'm currently extending the absence of links is compensated in
a really nice way. \o/

------------------------------------------------------------------------
3.3 Gopher with TLS
───────────────────

Specification: (?)
Scheme: gophers
Port number: 70(TCP)
File format: Gopher menu, Plain text
TLS: Yes
Request encoding: ASCII
Client implementations: hurl (?)
Server implementations: (?)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher

Use of [Gopher] protocol with TLS. I think that it isn't very good,
because [Gopher] does not have relative links, and the menu format of
[Gopher] does not allow to specify the use of TLS or not, making it
difficult to know if you should use TLS with a specific server.

(Presumably, virtual hosting is possible by the use of SNI.)

/?\ (yeti) …does this include [Gopher+] via TLS?


[Gopher] See section 3.1

[Gopher+] See section 3.2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

So the short refs don't blow up the text much and the real pointers are
once per ref at the end. Maybe that even converts nicely to infosystems
that only can use one link per line. I'll keep en eye on that.
--
"Emacs" rhymes with "Yessssss!". \o/ -- 20240328/yeti
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Linux NewsLink 1.113

yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

I just noticed that even in plain ASCII and UTF-8 exports of one of the
org texts I'm currently extending the absence of links is compensated in
a really nice way. \o/

Rock'n'roll. But, unfortunately, sir, we're gonna have to ask you to
use Microsoft Word in this group. Please, respect the rules.
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Linux NewsLink 1.113

Patricia Ferreira <pferreira@example.com> writes:

yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

I just noticed that even in plain ASCII and UTF-8 exports of one of the
org texts I'm currently extending the absence of links is compensated in
a really nice way. \o/

Rock'n'roll. But, unfortunately, sir, we're gonna have to ask you to
use Microsoft Word in this group. Please, respect the rules.

Why should *I* care?

admin@abuse.tilde.ru (Admin Abuse Complaint) writes:

The user "Yeti" is in repeated violation of the code of conduct of tilde.club.

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yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

Patricia Ferreira <pferreira@example.com> writes:

yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

I just noticed that even in plain ASCII and UTF-8 exports of one of the
org texts I'm currently extending the absence of links is compensated in >>> a really nice way. \o/

Rock'n'roll. But, unfortunately, sir, we're gonna have to ask you to
use Microsoft Word in this group. Please, respect the rules.

Why should *I* care?

[...]

admin@abuse.tilde.ru (Admin Abuse Complaint) writes:

The user "Yeti" is in repeated violation of the code of conduct of
tilde.club.

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Lol. You must be one of those condescending UNIX computer hackers.

https://www.sweharris.org/images/dilbert-unix-small.gif

Do you fully understand this? I don't quite get it. What does the UNIX
hacker tell the guy to get a better computer? Is it because the guy
actually runs UNIX and therefore must be stuck in the past or something
like that? I'm in panic ever since I saw this strip.
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Patricia Ferreira <pferreira@example.com> writes:

Lol. You must be one of those condescending UNIX computer hackers.

https://www.sweharris.org/images/dilbert-unix-small.gif

Do you fully understand this? I don't quite get it. What does the UNIX hacker tell the guy to get a better computer? Is it because the guy
actually runs UNIX and therefore must be stuck in the past or something
like that? I'm in panic ever since I saw this strip.

I may guess why a seasoned Unix user smiles about computer kids using patronising clickycoloured systems. They may look like analphabets to
an every day CLI user. But I do not get why a nickel should help in that situation.
--
"Emacs" rhymes with "Yessssss!". \o/ -- 20240328/yeti
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yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

Patricia Ferreira <pferreira@example.com> writes:

Lol. You must be one of those condescending UNIX computer hackers.

https://www.sweharris.org/images/dilbert-unix-small.gif

Do you fully understand this? I don't quite get it. What does the UNIX
hacker tell the guy to get a better computer? Is it because the guy
actually runs UNIX and therefore must be stuck in the past or something
like that? I'm in panic ever since I saw this strip.

I may guess why a seasoned Unix user smiles about computer kids using patronising clickycoloured systems. They may look like analphabets to
an every day CLI user. But I do not get why a nickel should help in that situation.

"Go get yourself a better computer." The nickel is a tip towards
cheaply buying a better computer. But why would the UNIX hacker feel
the seasoned user need a better computer? The seasoned user seems
obsessed with UNIX or UNIX hackers, but why does that imply he has an
old, slow computer?
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Patricia Ferreira <pferreira@example.com> writes:

"Go get yourself a better computer." The nickel is a tip towards
cheaply buying a better computer. But why would the UNIX hacker feel
the seasoned user need a better computer? The seasoned user seems
obsessed with UNIX or UNIX hackers, but why does that imply he has an
old, slow computer?

Maybe the nickel shall hint at Unix running better on older systems than Windows?

With FF now starting to be a pain with 8G RAM even on Unix, that gag at
least no longer gets the final tsching-bäng...
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"Emacs" rhymes with "Yessssss!". \o/ -- 20240328/yeti
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yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

Patricia Ferreira <pferreira@example.com> writes:

"Go get yourself a better computer." The nickel is a tip towards
cheaply buying a better computer. But why would the UNIX hacker feel
the seasoned user need a better computer? The seasoned user seems
obsessed with UNIX or UNIX hackers, but why does that imply he has an
old, slow computer?

Maybe the nickel shall hint at Unix running better on older systems than Windows?

Lol. We're two clueless UNIX users obsessed with UNIX stuff.

Anyway, lol, I love the smug-face remark. That's indeed true. UNIX
hackers and pretty much every other expert in any field usually has a
smug face because clueless people are so clueless... There's no limit to
it. :)

With FF now starting to be a pain with 8G RAM even on Unix, that gag at
least no longer gets the final tsching-bäng...

The web is a failure. Anyone who tries to keep up with it also fails.
Life is like this. Maybe everyone is going North, but we might have to
go South---alone or following the trail those condescending UNIX
hackers. :)
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Patricia Ferreira <pferreira@example.com> writes:

The web is a failure. Anyone who tries to keep up with it also fails.
Life is like this. Maybe everyone is going North, but we might have to
go South---alone or following the trail those condescending UNIX
hackers. :)

It did overshoot. But even earlier than with Java's and Flash's
appearance, when GIFs were added, we (a group of students administrating
Unix systems) did not applaud. Sure sometimes a picture helps, but we
smelled how flashy the web would be thereafter. Those days the web
still was to a major part the universities' playground and the change
was unavoidable. But we did not want flashy ads, we wanted a world wide library.

HTML per se is not the worst thing. It always depends on the stuff
people do with it. HTML without flexing all blingbling muscles,
only adding some grains of CSS spice still gives bearable pages.

Some newcomer "SmallWeb" protocols are even heavier than HTTP.

Currently I'm playing with NEX by writing a plugin for it for the
resurfaced Dillo browser. Mainly to get used to writing those plugins,
but NEX is kind of funny too. Minimalism sometimes via spite triggers creativity. I like to see the fun others have with these minimalistic
sites, but I probably will continue preferring to write my stuff in
Org/Babel and exporting it to boring HTML.

<nex://nightfall.city>
<http://portal.mozz.us/nex/nightfall.city/> (via proxy)
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"Emacs" rhymes with "Yessssss!". \o/ -- 20240328/yeti
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yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

Patricia Ferreira <pferreira@example.com> writes:

The web is a failure. Anyone who tries to keep up with it also fails.
Life is like this. Maybe everyone is going North, but we might have to
go South---alone or following the trail those condescending UNIX
hackers. :)

It did overshoot. But even earlier than with Java's and Flash's
appearance, when GIFs were added, we (a group of students administrating
Unix systems) did not applaud. Sure sometimes a picture helps, but we smelled how flashy the web would be thereafter. Those days the web
still was to a major part the universities' playground and the change
was unavoidable. But we did not want flashy ads, we wanted a world wide library.

World Wide Library. This is what we wanted.

HTML per se is not the worst thing. It always depends on the stuff
people do with it. HTML without flexing all blingbling muscles,
only adding some grains of CSS spice still gives bearable pages.

Some newcomer "SmallWeb" protocols are even heavier than HTTP.

Currently I'm playing with NEX by writing a plugin for it for the
resurfaced Dillo browser. Mainly to get used to writing those plugins,
but NEX is kind of funny too. Minimalism sometimes via spite triggers creativity. I like to see the fun others have with these minimalistic
sites, but I probably will continue preferring to write my stuff in
Org/Babel and exporting it to boring HTML.

I gave up on HTML, thankfully. I use PDFs now. With PDFs, I have the
control of how it displays. I also like to print things to read as
well, even computer programs. I also don't really keep my things on the
web because I'm not really important---so it's not needed---and I like
privacy. When an interested reader comes along, I show a piece.
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Patricia Ferreira <pferreira@example.com> writes:

I gave up on HTML, thankfully. I use PDFs now. With PDFs, I have the control of how it displays.

My text wont flow unless the window size really gets to small or the
browser disrespects CSS.

I've not touched (La)TeX for far too long and cannot get my Org stuff
exported correctly via LaTeX to PDF. But I'll revisit that idea.

I also like to print things to read as well, even computer programs.

Being nice to print or at least kind of mimic a calm look like a
printout was one of my goals, but de facto not having it printed ever,
I've not spent much time in the final polishing via CSS's @media
definitions.

I also don't really keep my things on the web because I'm not really important---so it's not needed---

My stuff mainly consists of "notes to $SELF", personal cheat sheets and massively under-documented code snippets. Having those accessible
"outside" sometimes is nice to have for giving digital neighbours an URL
into some notes. But I definitely do not think of that as a website,
blog or similar. So typically my starting page is a silly one page joke
or a fake 404 and only the ones needing to know more know some paths
into those.

and I like privacy.

        _
       / )
___   / /__
   |-'    _)
   |      _)
   |      _)
___|-.____)

When an interested reader comes along, I show a piece.

Except for the printing, that seems to match my use case implemented via
PDF instead of HTML.
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