• {0} {1} {2} {3} {4} {5} {6} {7} {8} {9} {0} rant

    From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.meta on Wed Jan 8 11:10:27 2025
    Keyboards originally had no {0}[0].

    I had such a typewriter too and remember typing {O} backspace {/} again
    and again and ...

    Yes! I typ(o)ed a lot about coding already back then in mechanical
    typewriter days.[1]

    Now we have a {0}, but it is in the wrong place.

    No, this is not the footnotes should start at {0} rant! This is just
    about keyboardgraphy[2].

    Look at e.g. Screen: {C-a} {1..9} gives window 1..9, {C-a} {0} right to
    {9} better should select the 10th one instead of the 0th.

    In Weechat {M-0}[3] selects buffer 10.

    MC/Mcedit allows {M-0} to mimic {F10}.

    Sure I know how to remap the {whatsoever} key left of {1} to yield {0},
    but I've far too many papoys[4] here to fine tune all of them without
    running into the next burn-out[9]. So this is not an option.

    So what was this post good for?

    I've no idea!

    Ramen!

    ____________

    [0]: Using {x} for keys to keep [y] free for footnotes.
    This shall reduce confusion by at least by half a bit.
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmyuE0NpNgE&t=35s>

    [1]: I'm not a grasshopper.

    [2]: echo geography | sed -s 's/geo/keyboard/' ## ?

    [3]: {M-} is {ESC} here, it may be {ALT-} for you.

    [4]: ... or is "papoy" already its plural?

    [9]: Maybe I really should stop (re)numbering footnotes manually!
    --
    I do not bite, I just want to play.
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  • From keyboardan@keyboardan@tilde.club to tilde.meta on Wed Jan 8 14:32:28 2025
    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> writes:

    Keyboards originally had no {0}[0].

    I had such a typewriter too and remember typing {O} backspace {/} again
    and again and ...

    Yes! I typ(o)ed a lot about coding already back then in mechanical typewriter days.[1]

    Now we have a {0}, but it is in the wrong place.

    No, this is not the footnotes should start at {0} rant! This is just
    about keyboardgraphy[2].

    Look at e.g. Screen: {C-a} {1..9} gives window 1..9, {C-a} {0} right to
    {9} better should select the 10th one instead of the 0th.

    In Weechat {M-0}[3] selects buffer 10.

    MC/Mcedit allows {M-0} to mimic {F10}.

    Sure I know how to remap the {whatsoever} key left of {1} to yield {0},
    but I've far too many papoys[4] here to fine tune all of them without
    running into the next burn-out[9]. So this is not an option.

    So what was this post good for?

    I've no idea!

    Ramen!

    ____________

    [0]: Using {x} for keys to keep [y] free for footnotes.
    This shall reduce confusion by at least by half a bit.
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmyuE0NpNgE&t=35s>

    [1]: I'm not a grasshopper.

    [2]: echo geography | sed -s 's/geo/keyboard/' ## ?

    [3]: {M-} is {ESC} here, it may be {ALT-} for you.

    [4]: ... or is "papoy" already its plural?

    [9]: Maybe I really should stop (re)numbering footnotes manually!


    Interesting article, indeed.

    I think, and hope, that there is space, in this world, for people that
    start counting on 0 and for the already standard[0] knowledge of
    starting to count on 1. Zero[1] chooses what most suits his/hers mind.

    Being a Emacs OS user, you can do C-c ! C-h for quickly knowing how to
    do some footnote action ;-) .

    I already posted the code to make Emacs OS footnotes start at 0[2]. I
    can share it again if you want, or need. This code lives at my init.el
    ;-) .

    Numbers live only in our minds, let's take care of our minds like
    zeroself[3] only knows.

    Cheers people! :-)


    [0] I think this standard has its flaws, namely, when we regard Math as
    being logical.
    [1] Or you can also say "One", if you start counting on 1.
    [2] Originally footnotes starts at 1, although in the LISP languages
    there is influence from people that regard starting counting at 0
    as correct.
    [3] Equivalent to today's "oneself".
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to tilde.meta on Wed Jan 8 16:16:03 2025
    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:

    > No, this is not the footnotes
    > should start at {0} rant! This
    > is just about keyboardgraphy[2].

    Ok?
    --
    I do not bite, I just want to play.
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