• [echoirlp] Unwanted disconnects - anyone know why?

    From Steven VK2STG@432:1/101 to echoirlp@groups.io on Fri Jan 21 14:05:53 2022
    Hi all,
    First, a belated Happy New Year to everyone!

    I've had a report of our VK2RFS-R EchoIRLP node randomly closing connections, often after 20min or so.
    In this case, a club member had connected into the repeater node using his computer/phone Echolink app (not sure which). Apparently it's fine if there is activity on the repeater, but when everything's quiet, it disconnects after a while.

    The first obvious thought was the timeout settings, as per a previous question on this group,
    "REFLECT_TIMEOUT_VALUE" in '/home/irlp/custom/environment" for conferences/reflectors and the file "/home/irlp/custom/timeoutvalue" for
    nodes.
    I set these to 100min last year, and to check they were still set I connected to the repeater node myself, from my VK2STG node useing Echolink on Windows - it stayed connected for over an hour, before I disconnected it. (with no repeater activity as far as I noticed).
    I should say that I have been disconnected myself, almost mid-QSO, previously, but had put it down to an unreliable internet service at my end.
    I don't have direct access to the RPi, so I'd prefer to have some idea of what to check before I ask the repeater owner for access.


    Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated!
    Steven VK2STG


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  • From WD5M David M.@432:1/101 to echoirlp@groups.io on Fri Jan 21 16:16:13 2022
    Edit "timeoutvalue" file in the custom directory.
    Reference <https://www.irlp.net/owners/home-irlp-custom.html>

    David M.
    WD5M


    On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:05 PM Steven VK2STG <stevenvk2stg@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Hi all,
    First, a belated Happy New Year to everyone!

    I've had a report of our VK2RFS-R EchoIRLP node randomly closing
    connections, often after 20min or so.
    In this case, a club member had connected into the repeater node using his computer/phone Echolink app (not sure which). Apparently it's fine if there is activity on the repeater, but when everything's quiet, it disconnects after a while.

    The first obvious thought was the timeout settings, as per a previous question on this group,
    "REFLECT_TIMEOUT_VALUE" in '/home/irlp/custom/environment" for conferences/reflectors and the file "/home/irlp/custom/timeoutvalue" for nodes.
    I set these to 100min last year, and to check they were still set I
    connected to the repeater node myself, from my VK2STG node useing Echolink
    on Windows - it stayed connected for over an hour, before I disconnected
    it. (with no repeater activity as far as I noticed).
    I should say that I have been disconnected myself, almost mid-QSO, previously, but had put it down to an unreliable internet service at my end. I don't have direct access to the RPi, so I'd prefer to have some idea of what to check before I ask the repeater owner for access.


    Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated!
    Steven VK2STG








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  • From Jonathan Taylor@432:1/101 to echoirlp@groups.io on Fri Jan 21 14:19:35 2022
    On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 05:05 PM, Steven VK2STG wrote:


    I'd prefer to have some idea of what to check before I ask the repeater owner for access

    There are various timeout settings which might be in play, at both ends of the conversation. I'd say the first thing to look at when you're troubleshooting mysterious disconnects is the system log -- it should indicate (either directly
    or indirectly) the reason for the disconnect, which in turn should answer the question of who disconnected whom.


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  • From Steven VK2STG@432:1/101 to echoirlp@groups.io on Fri Jan 21 14:25:35 2022
    Hi David, hi Jonathon, thanks. I'll check both suggestions.
    Where do I find the log? (sorry - probably shouldn't need to askšŸ˜)


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  • From Jonathan Taylor@432:1/101 to echoirlp@groups.io on Fri Jan 21 14:50:34 2022
    On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 05:25 PM, Steven VK2STG wrote:


    Where do I find the log?

    I believe it would be /home/irlp/log/messages by default.


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  • From Steven VK2STG@432:1/101 to echoirlp@groups.io on Sat Jan 22 09:55:53 2022
    Roger, thanks!

    On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 at 09:50, Jonathan Taylor <K1RFD@k1rfd.com> wrote:

    On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 05:25 PM, Steven VK2STG wrote:


    Where do I find the log?

    I believe it would be /home/irlp/log/messages by default.








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  • From Tony Langdon@432:1/101 to echoirlp@groups.io on Sun Jan 23 07:30:44 2022
    Check the value of $ECHO_TIMEOUT_VALUE, which if present, controls the
    idle timeout for most Echolink connections.Ā  Best to keep it non zero,
    so that someone camped on your system doesn't block IRLP connections
    more than necessary.Ā  Increase it to what suits.Ā  The value is in seconds.

    On 22/1/22 9:05 am, Steven VK2STG wrote:
    Hi all,
    First, a belated Happy New Year to everyone!

    I've had a report of our VK2RFS-R EchoIRLP node randomly closing connections,
    often after 20min or so.
    In this case, a club member had connected into the repeater node using his
    computer/phone Echolink app (not sure which). Apparently it's fine if there is activity on the repeater, but when everything's quiet, it disconnects after a while.

    The first obvious thought was the timeout settings, as per a previous
    question on this group,
    "REFLECT_TIMEOUT_VALUE" in '/home/irlp/custom/environment" for conferences/reflectors and the file "/home/irlp/custom/timeoutvalue" for nodes.
    I set these to 100min last year, and to check they were still set I connected
    to the repeater node myself, from my VK2STG node useing Echolink on Windows - it stayed connected for over an hour, before I disconnected it. (with no repeater activity as far as I noticed).
    I should say that I have been disconnected myself, almost mid-QSO,
    previously, but had put it down to an unreliable internet service at my end.
    I don't have direct access to the RPi, so I'd prefer to have some idea of
    what to check before I ask the repeater owner for access.


    Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated!
    Steven VK2STG






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  • From Steven VK2STG@432:1/101 to echoirlp@groups.io on Sun Jan 23 09:09:40 2022
    Thanks Tony, I haven't had a look at things yet, I'll check that one out
    too. Where would it be located?
    Steven


    On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 07:30, Tony Langdon <vk3jed@vkradio.com> wrote:

    Check the value of $ECHO_TIMEOUT_VALUE, which if present, controls the
    idle timeout for most Echolink connections. Best to keep it non zero,
    so that someone camped on your system doesn't block IRLP connections
    more than necessary. Increase it to what suits. The value is in seconds.

    On 22/1/22 9:05 am, Steven VK2STG wrote:
    Hi all,
    First, a belated Happy New Year to everyone!

    I've had a report of our VK2RFS-R EchoIRLP node randomly closing
    connections, often after 20min or so.
    In this case, a club member had connected into the repeater node using
    his computer/phone Echolink app (not sure which). Apparently it's fine if there is activity on the repeater, but when everything's quiet, it disconnects after a while.

    The first obvious thought was the timeout settings, as per a previous
    question on this group,
    "REFLECT_TIMEOUT_VALUE" in '/home/irlp/custom/environment" for conferences/reflectors and the file "/home/irlp/custom/timeoutvalue" for nodes.
    I set these to 100min last year, and to check they were still set I
    connected to the repeater node myself, from my VK2STG node useing Echolink
    on Windows - it stayed connected for over an hour, before I disconnected
    it. (with no repeater activity as far as I noticed).
    I should say that I have been disconnected myself, almost mid-QSO,
    previously, but had put it down to an unreliable internet service at my end.
    I don't have direct access to the RPi, so I'd prefer to have some idea
    of what to check before I ask the repeater owner for access.


    Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated!
    Steven VK2STG






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  • From Tony Langdon@432:1/101 to echoirlp@groups.io on Sun Jan 23 18:38:46 2022
    /home/EchoIRLP/custom/echo_env (or echo_environment) - I currently don't
    have a working EchoIRLP node to check. :)

    On 23/1/22 9:09 am, Steven VK2STG wrote:
    Thanks Tony, I haven't had a look at things yet, I'll check that one out
    too. Where would it be located?
    Steven


    On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 07:30, Tony Langdon <vk3jed@vkradio.com> wrote:

    Check the value of $ECHO_TIMEOUT_VALUE, which if present, controls the
    idle timeout for most Echolink connections. Best to keep it non zero,
    so that someone camped on your system doesn't block IRLP connections
    more than necessary. Increase it to what suits. The value is in seconds. >>
    On 22/1/22 9:05 am, Steven VK2STG wrote:
    Hi all,
    First, a belated Happy New Year to everyone!

    I've had a report of our VK2RFS-R EchoIRLP node randomly closing
    connections, often after 20min or so.
    In this case, a club member had connected into the repeater node using
    his computer/phone Echolink app (not sure which). Apparently it's fine if
    there is activity on the repeater, but when everything's quiet, it
    disconnects after a while.
    The first obvious thought was the timeout settings, as per a previous
    question on this group,
    "REFLECT_TIMEOUT_VALUE" in '/home/irlp/custom/environment" for
    conferences/reflectors and the file "/home/irlp/custom/timeoutvalue" for >>> nodes.
    I set these to 100min last year, and to check they were still set I
    connected to the repeater node myself, from my VK2STG node useing Echolink >> on Windows - it stayed connected for over an hour, before I disconnected
    it. (with no repeater activity as far as I noticed).
    I should say that I have been disconnected myself, almost mid-QSO,
    previously, but had put it down to an unreliable internet service at my end. >>> I don't have direct access to the RPi, so I'd prefer to have some idea
    of what to check before I ask the repeater owner for access.

    Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated!
    Steven VK2STG





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  • From WD5M David M.@432:1/101 to echoirlp@groups.io on Sun Jan 23 07:10:26 2022
    I think $ECHO_TIMEOUT_VALUE would only exist if it is added to the echo_environment file. $ECHO_TIMEOUT_VALUE is not in echo_environment when installed. iRLP timeouts are used by default, unless Dave C. is adding it
    on his installs.

    David M.
    WD5M


    On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 1:38 AM Tony Langdon <vk3jed@vkradio.com> wrote:

    /home/EchoIRLP/custom/echo_env (or echo_environment) - I currently don't
    have a working EchoIRLP node to check. :)

    On 23/1/22 9:09 am, Steven VK2STG wrote:
    Thanks Tony, I haven't had a look at things yet, I'll check that one out too. Where would it be located?
    Steven


    On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 07:30, Tony Langdon <vk3jed@vkradio.com> wrote:

    Check the value of $ECHO_TIMEOUT_VALUE, which if present, controls the
    idle timeout for most Echolink connections. Best to keep it non zero,
    so that someone camped on your system doesn't block IRLP connections
    more than necessary. Increase it to what suits. The value is in
    seconds.

    On 22/1/22 9:05 am, Steven VK2STG wrote:
    Hi all,
    First, a belated Happy New Year to everyone!

    I've had a report of our VK2RFS-R EchoIRLP node randomly closing
    connections, often after 20min or so.
    In this case, a club member had connected into the repeater node using
    his computer/phone Echolink app (not sure which). Apparently it's fine
    if
    there is activity on the repeater, but when everything's quiet, it
    disconnects after a while.
    The first obvious thought was the timeout settings, as per a previous
    question on this group,
    "REFLECT_TIMEOUT_VALUE" in '/home/irlp/custom/environment" for
    conferences/reflectors and the file "/home/irlp/custom/timeoutvalue"
    for
    nodes.
    I set these to 100min last year, and to check they were still set I
    connected to the repeater node myself, from my VK2STG node useing
    Echolink
    on Windows - it stayed connected for over an hour, before I disconnected >> it. (with no repeater activity as far as I noticed).
    I should say that I have been disconnected myself, almost mid-QSO,
    previously, but had put it down to an unreliable internet service at my end.
    I don't have direct access to the RPi, so I'd prefer to have some idea
    of what to check before I ask the repeater owner for access.

    Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated!
    Steven VK2STG





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