Hey there - Is anyone here interested in using their shortwave radio to download daily images from the International Space Station? It's not difficult to set up, but I haven't been successful with it yet. Here is a link from the European Space Agency web site where you can learn how to do it. If you have any success, let me know!

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On 04 Feb 2023 at 07:09p, Alonzo pondered and said...

Hey there - Is anyone here interested in using their shortwave radio to download daily images from the International Space Station? It's not difficult to set up, but I haven't been successful with it yet. Here is
a link from the European Space Agency web site where you can learn how
to do it. If you have any success, let me know!

Hi there

I have not tried to do this but would be interested to hear how you get on. :)

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Hi Alonzo,

Hey there - Is anyone here interested in using their shortwave radio to download daily images from the International Space Station? It's not

i can do this :) Got a Amateur Licence :)

Cheers
Michael

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download daily images from the International Space Station? It's not

GO> i can do this :) Got a Amateur Licence :)

You don't need a license because you are just receiving, not transmitting.

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Re: Re: Space Station stuff
By: Alonzo to Avon on Sun Feb 05 2023 11:31 am

I have not tried to do this but would be interested to hear how you get on. :)

You use a little program called RX-SSTV and there are instructions on how
to do it on the ESA web site. Here is the URL -

SEEN-BY: 1/100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 113 114 115 116

...

156 159 160 161 162 165 166 167 168 200 SEEN-BY: 3/100 4/100 106 5/100

Curios to know if this message is OK for others?

I see this a lot with Mystic echomail messages - and I'm thinking there is an underlying bug not resolved with Mystic.

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X-FTN-MSGID 21:1/130 7782b983
X-FTN-REPLY 21:1/101 f9f4f831
X-FTN-PATH 1/100 2/100


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On 06 Feb 2023, deon said the following...

Curios to know if this message is OK for others?

I see this a lot with Mystic echomail messages - and I'm thinking there
is an underlying bug not resolved with Mystic.

Are you referring to the lack of a tear or origin line on this message?

If so, Alonzo will need to make sure that this message base type is set to "Networked" instead of "Local", then Mystic will add those to the message.


Jay

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Re: Re: Space Station stuff
By: Warpslide to deon on Mon Feb 06 2023 05:52 am

Are you referring to the lack of a tear or origin line on this message?

If so, Alonzo will need to make sure that this message base type is set to "Networked" instead of "Local", then Mystic will add those to the message.

I actually think it's corrupted packets - which I havent confirmed that it's either the originating system, or the hub (in this case they are both Mystic).

The immediate visual that there is a problem, is that all the SEEN-BY lines are visiible, and there is no origin line.

What is clear tho, is if that packet had other messages after it, they are often lost :(


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Are you referring to the lack of a tear or origin line on this message?

If so, Alonzo will need to make sure that this message base type is set to >> "Networked" instead of "Local", then Mystic will add those to the message.

I actually think it's corrupted packets - which I havent confirmed that it's either the originating system, or the hub (in this case they are both Mystic).

Alonzo's message looks OK here, aside from the missing tear and origin lines.

The immediate visual that there is a problem, is that all the SEEN-BY lines are visiible, and there is no origin line.

The kludges are not visible here unless I choose to look at them and they look OK when I do.

What is clear tho, is if that packet had other messages after it, they are often lost :(

That's not good. Echomail message should have a tear and origin line of course but I haven't seen any issues when they are absent (they shouldn't be).

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Hi Alonzo,

You don't need a license because you are just receiving, not
transmitting.

you are right, if you only have a receiver. But if you have a transiver, german law says you need a licence.

Cheers
Michael

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Re: Re: Space Station stuff
By: Al to deon on Mon Feb 06 2023 03:14 am

Alonzo's message looks OK here, aside from the missing tear and origin lines.

So it looks that way as well on Hub 3. Hub 3 got it from Hub 1, as I am assuming you did too.

My BBS got it from Hub 2 (via Hub 1).


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Alonzo's message looks OK here, aside from the missing tear and origin
lines.

So it looks that way as well on Hub 3. Hub 3 got it from Hub 1, as I am assuming you did too.

Yes, so it looks like HUB 1 is good.

My BBS got it from Hub 2 (via Hub 1).

So maybe something happened at hub 2, before it was sent to your BBS?

We'd need to look at messages on hub 2 to be sure.

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If so, Alonzo will need to make sure that this message base type is set
to "Networked" instead of "Local", then Mystic will add those to the

Yes, I am sure that message base type is set to "Networked."

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You don't need a license because you are just receiving, not transmitting.

you are right, if you only have a receiver. But if you have a transiver, german law says you need a licence.

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know that. I think the law is different here.

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On 06 Feb 2023 at 03:48p, Al pondered and said...

Alonzo's message looks OK here, aside from the missing tear and origin >> lines.

So it looks that way as well on Hub 3. Hub 3 got it from Hub 1, as I am assuming you did too.

Yes, so it looks like HUB 1 is good.

My BBS got it from Hub 2 (via Hub 1).

So maybe something happened at hub 2, before it was sent to your BBS?

We'd need to look at messages on hub 2 to be sure.

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I'm on HUB 2 now and will quote what I see, which looks like a message without tearline etc...

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On 05 Feb 2023, Alonzo said the following...

@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A47
@MSGID: 21:1/130 7782b983
@REPLY: 21:1/101 f9f4f831
@TZUTC: -0500
@SEEN-BY: 1/100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 113 114 115 116 117
@SEEN-BY: 1/118 119 120 121 122 124 125 126 127 128 129 131 133 134 135 136 137
@SEEN-BY: 1/138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 147 148 149 150 152 154 155 157 158
@SEEN-BY: 1/159 160 161 162 163 164 166 168 169 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 179
@SEEN-BY: 1/180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 189 190 191 193 194 195 197 198 199
@SEEN-BY: 1/200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216
@SEEN-BY: 1/217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233
@SEEN-BY: 1/234 235 236 237 238 616 995 2/100 1202 3/100 4/100 106 5/100 @PATH: 1/100

I have not tried to do this but would be interested to hear how you g on. :)

You use a little program called RX-SSTV and there are instructions on how to do it on the ESA web site. Here is the URL -

That's all I can see when logged in at the HUB.

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Hi Avon,

@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A47
@MSGID: 21:1/130 7782b983
@REPLY: 21:1/101 f9f4f831
@TZUTC: -0500

I have not tried to do this but would be interested to hear how
you get on. :)

You use a little program called RX-SSTV and there are instructions on
how to do it on the ESA web site. Here is the URL -

SEEN-BY: 1/100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 113 114 115
116 117
SEEN-BY: 1/118 119 120 121 122 124 125 126 127 128 129 131 133 134 135
136 137
SEEN-BY: 1/138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 147 148 149 150 152 154 155
157 158
SEEN-BY: 1/159 160 161 162 163 164 166 168 169 171 172 173 174 175 176
177 179
SEEN-BY: 1/180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 189 190 191 193 194 195 197
198 199
SEEN-BY: 1/200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214
215 216
SEEN-BY: 1/217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231
232 233
SEEN-BY: 1/234 235 236 237 238 616 995 2/100 1202 3/100 4/100 106
5/100
@PATH: 1/100

...and this is the same thing I see in GoldEd at 1/100

Hmm


Best, Paul.

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Re: Space Station stuff
By: Avon to Avon on Wed Feb 15 2023 09:44 pm

...and this is the same thing I see in GoldEd at 1/100

So, if I've followed this correctly, then:

* it either left the orginating system as a bad packet and hub 2 forwarded it on, or

* as hub 2 processed it, it became bad.

I've seen it a few times with a few messages here in there, and I cant see what could cause it - I think it'll need a packet captured on the source system or, a packet captured at a hub before it is processed to figure it out.

The only common thing I've seen is that its a Mystic BBS as the originator of the message (but havent checked what version in case it is a known bug).

I'm going to set up something on Hub 3 to see if I can catch it - but its also intermittent as far as Ive noticed.


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On 05 Feb 2023, Alonzo said the following...

@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A47
@MSGID: 21:1/130 7782b983
@REPLY: 21:1/101 f9f4f831
@TZUTC: -0500
@SEEN-BY: 1/100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 113 114 115
116 117
@SEEN-BY: 1/118 119 120 121 122 124 125 126 127 128 129 131 133 134 135
136 137
@SEEN-BY: 1/138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 147 148 149 150 152 154 155
157 158
@SEEN-BY: 1/159 160 161 162 163 164 166 168 169 171 172 173 174 175 176
177 179
@SEEN-BY: 1/180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 189 190 191 193 194 195 197
198 199
@SEEN-BY: 1/200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214
215 216
@SEEN-BY: 1/217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231
232 233
@SEEN-BY: 1/234 235 236 237 238 616 995 2/100 1202 3/100 4/100 106 5/100
@PATH: 1/100

I have not tried to do this but would be interested to hear how you g
on. :)

You use a little program called RX-SSTV and there are instructions on how
to do it on the ESA web site. Here is the URL -

That's all I can see when logged in at the HUB.

I've seen that happen on Mystic BBS before but aside from Alonzo's message I haven't seen it in some time.

I didn't note what version Alonzo was using.

Messages just seemed to end mid thought/reply with no tear or origin line.

If this still happens with current versions maybe we should let g00r00 know about it so he can have a ponder and perhaps fix it if he can spot an issue.

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On 15 Feb 2023 at 08:39p, deon pondered and said...

Re: Space Station stuff
By: Avon to Avon on Wed Feb 15 2023 09:44 pm

...and this is the same thing I see in GoldEd at 1/100

So, if I've followed this correctly, then:

* it either left the orginating system as a bad packet and hub 2
forwarded it on, or

* as hub 2 processed it, it became bad.

it looks like it came from a NET 1 node to NET 1 (HPT) and then onwards to NET 2 where we can see the PATH shows 1/100 prior...

I don't as a rule capture all packets passing through the HUB as it could get jolly busy :) But if there's a recurring issue I can set something up for a period.

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