• Re: Towing the Line was: Chic

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 16 06:29:52 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Wedon't have that much but doing well on Social Security and Steve's retirement/disability. We have several CDs, TSP and IRAs tucked away
    for the future.

    My brother is sitting pretty on that front. He has his union pension, school board pension and Social Security. His wife has the school
    board pension and Social Security. They are making (he says) more than when

    They are doing well then. I didn't work long enough to get full Social Security but, some's better than none.

    By continuing to work and pay into SS my monthly cheque increases every
    year (more than the COLA bumps. Plus, I enjoy what I do so it's not "work"
    just .......

    they worked. I, OTOH, have just Social security and my part-time job
    at AutoZone to pad that out. Cashed out my investment plan to pay off
    my little house - so, it's "doable".

    Steve has mentioned cashing out an IRA to pay off the house but we've
    not done so yet. Soon getting to the point when we have to draw from it
    so we'll probably use that for extra house payments. We're paying extra
    on the principle every month so already have the mortgage about half
    paid.

    It's a matter of mathematics. Which is why I don't carry a balance on
    my credit cards. And it makes it easier to get a home equity loan. I
    needed one when I re-roofed the house, rebuilt the patio cover and had
    the tree removed that caused me to need to rebuild the cover.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    One time when we were at my parent's house, my brothers were talking
    about how good Mrs. Stouffer's lasagne is. Steve and I looked at each other with a "do they ever have lousy taste in food!" look. I guess it cmes naturally; my mom used to make lasagne with cottage cheese. I got
    my lasagne recipe from my Italian MIL. (G)

    It's all in what you're accustomed to, I suppose.

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And once
    in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Traditional Lasagna
    Categories: Pasta, Beef, Pork, Cheese, Vegetables
    Yield: 12 servings

    1 lb Ground beef
    3/4 lb Italian pork sausage
    24 oz (3 cans) tomato sauce
    12 oz (2 cans) tomato paste
    2 cl Garlic minced
    2 ts Sugar
    1 ts Italian seasoning
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Pepper
    3 lg Eggs
    3 tb Minced fresh parsley
    3 c Small-curd cottage cheese
    1 c Ricotta cheese
    1/2 c Grated Parmesan cheese
    9 Lasagna noodles; cooked,
    - drained
    6 sl Provolone cheese; 6 ounces
    3 c Shredded mozzarella cheese;
    - divided

    In a large skillet over medium heat, cook and crumble
    beef and sausage until no longer pink; drain. Add next 7
    ingredients. Bring to a boil. Reduce heat; simmer,
    uncovered, 1 hour, stirring occasionally. Adjust
    seasoning with additional salt and pepper if desired.

    Meanwhile, in a large bowl, lightly beat eggs. Add
    parsley; stir in cottage cheese, ricotta and Parmesan
    cheese.

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    Spread 1 cup meat sauce in an ungreased 13x9-in. baking
    dish. Layer baking dish with 3 noodles, provolone
    cheese, 2 cups cottage cheese mixture, 1 cup mozzarella,
    3 noodles, 2 cups meat sauce, remaining cottage cheese
    mixture and 1 cup mozzarella. Top with remaining
    noodles, meat sauce and mozzarella (dish will be full).

    Cover; bake 50 minutes. Uncover; bake until heated
    through, about 20 minutes. Let lasagna stand 15 minutes
    before cutting.

    Lorri Foockle, Granville, Illinois

    Makes: 12 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 16 07:57:38 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I don'r watch the boob tube (as I've said many times) so reading is
    my form of infotainment. The last physical book I bought was a copy
    of "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" a non-fiction tome.

    Sounds interesting. I'll source my books any and every where, for
    hard copy I try to get from thrift shops, ReStore, and so on.

    I'm more likely to send books to the "op shop" than to buy from them.
    My shelves are full - plus.

    Did I tell you about Book Bub? I get at least on email a day listing
    "free and reduced price" offerings. Here's the link:

    I do get their e-mails; IIRC, you mentioned it when I got the Nook back
    in 2012. I usually peruse the list for what may look interesting enough
    to check into further before making a decision.

    I thought I had. Got an updated "categories" listing from them a few
    days ago. But, I'm sticking with my current mix of cozy mysteries,
    crime fiction (detective stories), historical fiction, history, and
    cooking is what I'm sticking with.

    I read the brief description in the e-mail and, if interested, click
    the link and check out the fuller description on the web page. I
    remember plots and story lines better than titles - so sometimes
    I'll click on a book that sounds like it's up my street on to be
    informed that I already own it when I get to the Amazon page. Bv)=

    I've not encountered an "oh, I already own it" experience yet. (G)

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Our waiting rooms mostly do have magazines, etc. available - but the
    stuff is so out-dated ..........

    Sometimes I've found interesting recipies in the magazines, especially
    if it's a magazine I don't subscribe to. I'll snap a picture of the
    recipe so I'll have it without tearing up the magazine. Or, if the magazine is really old, I'll ask if I can tear out the recipe and
    usually get an OK. (G)

    I sometimes get recipes is some of my "cozy mysteries" which are/can be intriguing. Those I will pound in to my Meal Monster software. But I've
    also got on-line feeds from Taste of Home, New York Times, Cookpad (UK), Woolworth's TASTE (Australia) and Copycat Recipes (Stephanie Manley)

    I'm going to have to start a second "ECHOMAIL" base in Meal Master as
    I am at 21,000 recipes that I have entered for use in the echo. Wow!

    Here's one - since I know you like Chick Filly whereas I have stood on
    more than enough lines when I was in Unc's Yacht Club. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings

    2 tb Honey
    1 tb Yellow prepared mustard
    2 ts Dijon mustard
    1/4 c Mayonnaise
    2 tb BBQ sauce *
    2 ts Lemon juice

    Place all ingredients in a small bowl.

    Stir to combine.

    Refrigerate the sauce when not serving

    * Heinz Classic Original Barbecue Sauce is recommended

    Author: Stephanie Manley

    RECIPE FROM: https://copykat.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 17 13:49:10 2024
    Hi Dave,


    They are doing well then. I didn't work long enough to get full Social Security but, some's better than none.

    By continuing to work and pay into SS my monthly cheque increases
    every year (more than the COLA bumps. Plus, I enjoy what I do so it's
    not "work" just .......

    I'm self employed so I can pick and choose my jobs. Not doing anything
    right now because our AC not working right, current project is a flannel
    shirt. Should have AC fixed Friday, then back to the sewing machine.


    Steve has mentioned cashing out an IRA to pay off the house but we've
    not done so yet. Soon getting to the point when we have to draw from it
    so we'll probably use that for extra house payments. We're paying extra
    on the principle every month so already have the mortgage about half
    paid.

    It's a matter of mathematics. Which is why I don't carry a balance on
    my credit cards. And it makes it easier to get a home equity loan. I needed one when I re-roofed the house, rebuilt the patio cover and had
    the tree removed that caused me to need to rebuild the cover.

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times when we
    had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling unit), a windfall
    has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    One time when we were at my parent's house, my brothers were talking
    about how good Mrs. Stouffer's lasagne is. Steve and I looked at each other with a "do they ever have lousy taste in food!" look. I guess it cmes naturally; my mom used to make lasagne with cottage cheese. I got
    my lasagne recipe from my Italian MIL. (G)

    It's all in what you're accustomed to, I suppose.

    Probably so, but once I got my MIL's recipe, I never looked at my mom's.
    Same as we said we'd make his mom's sauce & meatballs and my mom's meat
    sauce, then decide which to keep making. Made his mom's first, never
    made my mom's. (G)

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once DD> in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 17 14:03:37 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Sounds interesting. I'll source my books any and every where, for
    hard copy I try to get from thrift shops, ReStore, and so on.

    I'm more likely to send books to the "op shop" than to buy from them.
    My shelves are full - plus.

    Ours are mosly full, but usually room for one or 2 more. Thinking of tranferring my Jean Auel and James Clavell to the Nook; that'll free up
    some room. Also do my Barbara Taylor Bradford and Bruce Catton; those 4
    authors now occupy 2 shelves.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Our waiting rooms mostly do have magazines, etc. available - but the
    stuff is so out-dated ..........

    Sometimes I've found interesting recipies in the magazines, especially
    if it's a magazine I don't subscribe to. I'll snap a picture of the
    recipe so I'll have it without tearing up the magazine. Or, if the magazine is really old, I'll ask if I can tear out the recipe and
    usually get an OK. (G)

    I sometimes get recipes is some of my "cozy mysteries" which are/can
    be intriguing. Those I will pound in to my Meal Monster software. But I've also got on-line feeds from Taste of Home, New York Times,
    Cookpad (UK), Woolworth's TASTE (Australia) and Copycat Recipes
    (Stephanie Manley)

    I'm going to have to start a second "ECHOMAIL" base in Meal Master as
    I am at 21,000 recipes that I have entered for use in the echo. Wow!

    I've cut way back on the recipies I want to save, thinking of "Will I
    actually make it or not?" now.



    Here's one - since I know you like Chick Filly whereas I have stood on more than enough lines when I was in Unc's Yacht Club. Bv)=


    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings

    2 tb Honey
    1 tb Yellow prepared mustard
    2 ts Dijon mustard
    1/4 c Mayonnaise
    2 tb BBQ sauce *
    2 ts Lemon juice

    Except I don't like sauce on a lot of things. For a C-F-A sandwich I'll
    use just one packet of mayonnaise, no ketchup or bbq or especially no
    honey mustard.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 19 07:25:10 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    They are doing well then. I didn't work long enough to get full Social Security but, some's better than none.

    By continuing to work and pay into SS my monthly cheque increases
    every year (more than the COLA bumps. Plus, I enjoy what I do so it's
    not "work" just .......

    I'm self employed so I can pick and choose my jobs. Not doing anything right now because our AC not working right, current project is a
    flannel shirt. Should have AC fixed Friday, then back to the sewing machine.

    Do you make enough to file with the Eternal Revenue Service? When I ran
    a print shop in my basement as a side business one of the things I hated
    most was the paperwork for the IRS filings.

    Steve has mentioned cashing out an IRA to pay off the house but we've
    not done so yet. Soon getting to the point when we have to draw from it
    so we'll probably use that for extra house payments. We're paying extra
    on the principle every month so already have the mortgage about half
    paid.

    I got a link in one of my on-line news feeds the other day - so I followed
    it and found myself nodding my head often as I read it. Worth a read.

    https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/pay-off-your-mortgage-early/

    It's a matter of mathematics. Which is why I don't carry a balance on
    my credit cards. And it makes it easier to get a home equity loan. I needed one when I re-roofed the house, rebuilt the patio cover and had
    the tree removed that caused me to need to rebuild the cover.

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times when we
    had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling unit), a windfall
    has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    Found money is *always* nice.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    One time when we were at my parent's house, my brothers were talking
    about how good Mrs. Stouffer's lasagne is. Steve and I looked at each other with a "do they ever have lousy taste in food!" look. I guess it cmes naturally; my mom used to make lasagne with cottage cheese. I got
    my lasagne recipe from my Italian MIL. (G)

    It's all in what you're accustomed to, I suppose.

    Probably so, but once I got my MIL's recipe, I never looked at my
    mom's. Same as we said we'd make his mom's sauce & meatballs and my
    mom's meat sauce, then decide which to keep making. Made his mom's
    first, never made my mom's. (G)

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once DD> in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldon the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sicilian Caponata
    Categories: Vegetables, Nuts, Herbs
    Yield: 5 servings

    4 md Eggplants; in 3/4" cubes
    Salt
    2 Celery ribs; in 1/2" long
    - pieces
    1 lg Red onion; thin sliced
    - lengthwise
    6 oz Pitted green olives; halved
    1/4 c Capers; rinsed, drained
    1/4 c Tomato paste
    1/2 c Red wine vinegar
    2 tb Sugar
    1/2 c Toasted whole almonds; fine
    - chopped
    Fresh ground black pepper
    Extra-virgin olive oil; for
    - drizzling

    Place the eggplant in a colander, season liberally with
    salt, and toss to combine. Let the eggplant stand for 30
    minutes, then rinse under cold running water until all
    the salt is gone. Squeeze all the moisture from the
    eggplant and dry them thoroughly on paper towels. In a
    large skillet, warm the olive oil over high heat.
    Working in three batches, add the eggplant to the oil
    and fry, tossing occasionally, until dark brown all
    over, about 10 minutes. Using a slotted spoon, transfer
    the eggplant to paper towels to drain and discard all
    but 2 tablespoons of the olive oil.

    Reduce the skillet to medium heat, add the celery and
    onion, and cook, stirring, until soft, about 6 minutes.
    Stir in the olives and capers and cook for 2 minutes.
    Add the tomato paste and cook, stirring, until the paste
    is lightly caramelized, about 2 minutes more. Pour in
    the vinegar and sugar and cook, stirring, until the
    sugar dissolves and the vinegar almost completely
    evaporates, 2 to 3 minutes more.

    Scrape the vegetables into a large bowl, stir in the
    eggplant and the almonds, and season the caponata with
    salt and pepper. Drizzle the caponata with extra-virgin
    olive oil before serving.

    Yield: makes 5 cups

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.saveur.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 19 07:37:14 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sounds interesting. I'll source my books any and every where, for
    hard copy I try to get from thrift shops, ReStore, and so on.

    I'm more likely to send books to the "op shop" than to buy from them.
    My shelves are full - plus.

    Ours are mosly full, but usually room for one or 2 more. Thinking of tranferring my Jean Auel and James Clavell to the Nook; that'll free up some room. Also do my Barbara Taylor Bradford and Bruce Catton; those 4 authors now occupy 2 shelves.

    I have read all of Clavell's novel output since King Rat. And watched
    the first Version of "Shogun" in 1980 when I was still watching TeeVee.
    He does/did great historical novels and since his day job was as a script writer in Hollywood - many of his yarns have been made into movies and babble-box shows. Some great like King Rat and Shogun and some eminently forgettable like Tai Pan which was adapted by someone not Clavell. They
    should have let Clavell do the screenplay rather than the hack they used.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I'm going to have to start a second "ECHOMAIL" base in Meal Master as
    I am at 21,000 recipes that I have entered for use in the echo. Wow!

    I've cut way back on the recipies I want to save, thinking of "Will I actually make it or not?" now.

    I save them if they are interesting to me and if I think "I'd eat that"
    after making the dish in my mind.

    Here's one - since I know you like Chick Filly whereas I have stood on more than enough lines when I was in Unc's Yacht Club. Bv)=

    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings

    2 tb Honey
    1 tb Yellow prepared mustard
    2 ts Dijon mustard
    1/4 c Mayonnaise
    2 tb BBQ sauce *
    2 ts Lemon juice

    Except I don't like sauce on a lot of things. For a C-F-A sandwich I'll use just one packet of mayonnaise, no ketchup or bbq or especially no honey mustard.

    I wouldn't pull a gun on you and make you use the stuff. My toppings are usually very basic. F'rinstance I'll do tomato, onion and mayo on a bacon cheezeburger.

    I'm not a huge fan of ketchup - not even on my French fries. I'm more
    likely to use mayo or tartar sauce if I use anything ... which is not
    very often.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dave's Tartar Sauce
    Categories: Five, Sauces, Citrus
    Yield: 1 Cup

    3/4 c Hellman's or Duke's mayo
    4 tb Vlasic or Mt. Olive dill
    - pickle relish
    1 tb Real Lemon lemon juice
    1 tb Fine chopped green olives

    Put everything into into an appropriate container. Stir
    or whisk until well blended. Serve with fish or other
    seafood. Also good for dipping French fries.

    Store leftovers (if any) in a closed container in the
    ice box. Use within one week or bin the residue.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 19 15:16:13 2024
    Re: Towing the Line was: Chic
    By: Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 17 2024 01:49 pm


    On credit cards, I carry often a small balance but under 1,000. Right now it's higher but just covered a roofing job and am miway on a chimney fix. It's about 3k and going up to 4k. I'll bleed it off pretty fast.

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 05:06:00 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    On credit cards, I carry often a small balance but under 1,000. Right
    now it's higher but just covered a roofing job and am miway on a
    chimney fix. It's about 3k and going up to 4k. I'll bleed it off
    pretty fast.

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    What is the APR though? My American Express has the best annual percentage
    rate of my cards and it's at 23.97% (jut looked). The monthly percentage doesn't sound bad - until you do the math.

    Last time I did home repairs I floated a home equity lona. I could have
    covered the new roof and patio cover and tree removal from my checking
    account 0 but I didn't want to go back to living paycheck to paycheck.

    So I did the loan at 4.5% APR - and still paid it off as soon as I could.
    Then I learned that the hoe-eq loan was, in fact, a second mortgage when
    I got the papers following pay-off.

    Still, general purpose credit cards have ony been around sine 1958 with
    the introduction of the Bank Americard - which became Visa. And the AMEX
    card.

    For me the cards are a convenience item. And they let me tell panhandlers "Sorry, bub. I'm all on plastic."

    This is as close to a Diner's Club recipe as I have ....

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    Title: Diner-Style Club Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Pork, Vegetables, Breads
    Yield: 2 servings

    6 sl Thin-cut bacon
    6 sl White bread; lightly toasted
    1/4 c Mayonnaise; more as needed
    2 lg Romaine or iceberg lettuce
    - leaves; more as needed
    1 (5 oz) beefsteak tomato;
    - thin sliced
    4 oz Thin-sliced roasted turkey
    Fine salt & black pepper
    Potato chips; toserve

    Position a rack in the middle of the oven; heat to
    425oF/218oC.

    Place a towel-lined platter near your workspace.

    Arrange the bacon strips in a single layer on a large,
    rimmed baking sheet and transfer to the oven (no need to
    wait for it to be preheated). Roast the bacon for 18 to
    20 minutes, or until it is crisped. Transfer to the
    prepared platter and break each strip in half.

    UDD NOTE: You can microwave your bacon in a 1000 watt
    or more powerful oven for 5 minutes using a microwave
    safe platter and paper towels.

    While the bacon is roasting, gather and prepare the
    remaining sandwich ingredients: the bread, mayonnaise,
    lettuce, tomato, turkey, and salt and pepper.

    To assemble the sandwiches, generously spread the
    mayonnaise on one side of each of the bread slices. Cut
    the lettuce leaves into 4 pieces, so they will fit
    neatly on the bread.

    Place a lettuce leaf on 2 of the slices; top each with a
    tomato slice, then 3 bacon halves and a quarter of the
    turkey, and season lightly with salt and pepper. Top
    with a second slice of bread, mayonnaise side down.
    Gently spread mayonnaise on the top slice of bread.
    Repeat layering the ingredients in the same order on top
    of this slice of bread. Cover the sandwiches with the
    final slice of bread, mayonnaise side down. Gently press
    down on each sandwich and use 4 toothpicks to secure the
    sandwich layers in 4 equally spaced spots, pressing all
    the way through the bottom slice of bread. Using a
    serrated knife, cut each sandwich diagonally, into 4
    triangular pieces (each piece should be secured in the
    center with a toothpick).

    Arrange the sandwiches on plates and serve with potato
    chips.

    From: Ann Maloney.

    Makes: 2 double-decker sandwiches

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.washingtonpost.com

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 10:33:39 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Ben Collver on Wed Jul 03 2024 14:38:47

    You will like the Clan books I bet! She;s as accurate as possible on what was known of the times with only some additions to flesh out Neanderthals.

    You were right, i liked Clan of the Cavebear quite a bit. Interesting that
    it was pretty high up on the banned books list in the 90's. I loved the
    themes of survival in the outdoors and shamanism. Ayla makes a good hero.
    Now i have a new genre of book to seek out: Prehistoric Fiction.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BEN COLLVER on Sat Jul 20 12:39:00 2024
    You were right, i liked Clan of the Cavebear quite a bit. Interesting that it was pretty high up on the banned books list in the 90's. I loved the themes of survival in the outdoors and shamanism. Ayla makes a good hero. Now i have a new genre of book to seek out: Prehistoric Fiction.

    Was it the shamanism that got it on the list?

    Mike


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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Mike Powell on Sat Jul 20 16:55:14 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Mike Powell to BEN COLLVER on Sat Jul 20 2024 12:39:00

    Was it the shamanism that got it on the list?

    I think it was the fictional prehistoric sexual practices not fit for
    a sanitized, Disney-esque worldview.

    Then again, neither are farms nor nature documentaries.
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 20 11:24:43 2024
    Hi Dave,


    By continuing to work and pay into SS my monthly cheque increases
    every year (more than the COLA bumps. Plus, I enjoy what I do so it's
    not "work" just .......

    I'm self employed so I can pick and choose my jobs. Not doing anything right now because our AC not working right, current project is a
    flannel shirt. Should have AC fixed Friday, then back to the sewing machine.

    Do you make enough to file with the Eternal Revenue Service? When I
    ran a print shop in my basement as a side business one of the things I hated most was the paperwork for the IRS filings.

    Usually just enough to add into our Misc. income; it's not enough to
    consider a business but since we do get some income from it, that's hhow
    we treat it.


    Steve has mentioned cashing out an IRA to pay off the house but we've
    not done so yet. Soon getting to the point when we have to draw from it
    so we'll probably use that for extra house payments. We're paying extra
    on the principle every month so already have the mortgage about half
    paid.

    I got a link in one of my on-line news feeds the other day - so I
    followed it and found myself nodding my head often as I read it. Worth
    a read.

    https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/pay-off-your-mortgage-early/

    It's a matter of mathematics. Which is why I don't carry a balance on
    my credit cards. And it makes it easier to get a home equity loan. I needed one when I re-roofed the house, rebuilt the patio cover and had
    the tree removed that caused me to need to rebuild the cover.

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times when we
    had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling unit), a windfall
    has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    Found money is *always* nice.

    Yes, but no such windfalls this week. Truck needed some routine work,
    a/c return failed and had to be replaced & system cleaned, then
    something in the upright freezer jammed the door just slightly open &
    iced up the system. Found that in time to rescue most everything, gave
    us a chance to weed out some stuff. Thankfully, Tricare for Life and
    Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.


    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    One time when we were at my parent's house, my brothers were talking
    about how good Mrs. Stouffer's lasagne is. Steve and I looked at each other with a "do they ever have lousy taste in food!" look. I guess it cmes naturally; my mom used to make lasagne with cottage cheese. I got
    my lasagne recipe from my Italian MIL. (G)

    It's all in what you're accustomed to, I suppose.

    Probably so, but once I got my MIL's recipe, I never looked at my
    mom's. Same as we said we'd make his mom's sauce & meatballs and my
    mom's meat sauce, then decide which to keep making. Made his mom's
    first, never made my mom's. (G)

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once DD> in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldon the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the
    boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 20 11:33:33 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Ours are mosly full, but usually room for one or 2 more. Thinking of tranferring my Jean Auel and James Clavell to the Nook; that'll free up some room. Also do my Barbara Taylor Bradford and Bruce Catton; those 4 authors now occupy 2 shelves.

    I have read all of Clavell's novel output since King Rat. And watched
    the first Version of "Shogun" in 1980 when I was still watching
    TeeVee. He does/did great historical novels and since his day job was
    as a script writer in Hollywood - many of his yarns have been made
    into movies and
    babble-box shows. Some great like King Rat and Shogun and some
    eminently forgettable like Tai Pan which was adapted by someone not Clavell. They should have let Clavell do the screenplay rather than
    the hack they used.


    The Shogun series has 6 books--Shogun,Tai-Pan, Gai-Jin, King Rat, Noble
    House and Whirlwind. I've read/own them all, didn't really care for King
    Rat but some of the characters showed up in Noble House. Never did watch
    the series.


    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I'm going to have to start a second "ECHOMAIL" base in Meal Master as
    I am at 21,000 recipes that I have entered for use in the echo. Wow!

    I've cut way back on the recipies I want to save, thinking of "Will I actually make it or not?" now.

    I save them if they are interesting to me and if I think "I'd eat
    that" after making the dish in my mind.


    That's the way I was thinking when I first started with the echo but got
    to the point where I was saving a lot more than I was making. Did
    incorporate some things I'd read about into our way of eating, use of
    balsamic vinegar for one.



    Here's one - since I know you like Chick Filly whereas I have stood on more than enough lines when I was in Unc's Yacht Club. Bv)=

    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings


    Except I don't like sauce on a lot of things. For a C-F-A sandwich I'll use just one packet of mayonnaise, no ketchup or bbq or especially no honey mustard.

    I wouldn't pull a gun on you and make you use the stuff. My toppings
    are usually very basic. F'rinstance I'll do tomato, onion and mayo on
    a bacon cheezeburger.

    I'm not a huge fan of ketchup - not even on my French fries. I'm more likely to use mayo or tartar sauce if I use anything ... which is not
    very often.

    I don't put ketchup on fries either, prefer them plain. Hamburger (hold
    the cheese) will get tomato (or ketchup), sometimes onion and or
    lettuce, pickle (or pickle relish). But, like Michael, I like most meats unsauced.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 11:42:29 2024
    Hi Carol,


    On credit cards, I carry often a small balance but under 1,000. Right
    now it's higher but just covered a roofing job and am miway on a
    chimney fix. It's about 3k and going up to 4k. I'll bleed it off
    pretty fast.

    This week we had some routine maintainence work done on the truck; air conditioner repair (return duct failed, had to be replace, area cleaned
    out); and upright freezer go into melt down mode (able to save a lot,
    decided to ditch some stuff). Don't know what the a/c cost, no cost for
    the freezer but do know credit card took a hit. We were supposed to be
    in VT this week so glad that trip was canceled so we could deal with the
    stuff here.



    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    Ours does too but don't know how much. Do know we have some savings
    which will probably pay the card off next cycle.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 22 06:26:00 2024
    Steve has mentioned cashing out an IRA to pay off the house but we've
    not done so yet. Soon getting to the point when we have to draw from it
    so we'll probably use that for extra house payments. We're paying extra
    on the principle every month so already have the mortgage about half
    paid.

    I got a link in one of my on-line news feeds the other day - so I
    followed it and found myself nodding my head often as I read it. Worth
    a read.

    https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/pay-off-your-mortgage-early/

    It's a matter of mathematics. Which is why I don't carry a balance on
    my credit cards. And it makes it easier to get a home equity loan. I needed one when I re-roofed the house, rebuilt the patio cover and had
    the tree removed that caused me to need to rebuild the cover.

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times when we
    had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling unit), a windfall
    has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    Found money is *always* nice.

    Yes, but no such windfalls this week. Truck needed some routine work,
    a/c return failed and had to be replaced & system cleaned, then
    something in the upright freezer jammed the door just slightly open &
    iced up the system. Found that in time to rescue most everything, gave
    us a chance to weed out some stuff. Thankfully, Tricare for Life and Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.

    Bruo (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil changed
    and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out
    of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid -
    but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for
    either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    One time when we were at my parent's house, my brothers were talking
    about how good Mrs. Stouffer's lasagne is. Steve and I looked at each other with a "do they ever have lousy taste in food!" look. I guess it cmes naturally; my mom used to make lasagne with cottage cheese. I got
    my lasagne recipe from my Italian MIL. (G)

    It's all in what you're accustomed to, I suppose.

    Probably so, but once I got my MIL's recipe, I never looked at my
    mom's. Same as we said we'd make his mom's sauce & meatballs and my
    mom's meat sauce, then decide which to keep making. Made his mom's
    first, never made my mom's. (G)

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldom the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    Almost Swiss, then. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Swiss Chicken Casserole (Crock Pot)
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Soups, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb Boned, skinned chicken;
    - breasts or thighs
    6 sl Emmenthal Swiss cheese
    Mrs Dash seasoning salt
    10 3/4 oz Can cream of mushroom soup
    4 oz Can mushroom stems & pieces;
    - drained (opt)
    1/4 c Milk or Half & Half
    12 oz Seasoned stuffing mix; (2-6
    - ounce boxes)
    1 c Butter; melted

    Spray crock pot with non stick cooking spray.

    Arrange the chicken in crock pot.

    Sprinkle with seasoning salt.

    Top each piece of chicken with a cheese slice.

    Layer if necessary.

    Combine soup and milk (and mushrooms if using)
    and stir well.

    Spoon over mixture over chicken and cheese.

    Mix butter with stuffing mix.

    Sprinkle chicken with stuffing mix.

    Cover and cook on low for 8-10 hours or on high for 4-6
    hours.

    UDD NOTES: Made this with thighs. Doubled up on the
    stuffing and increased the butter as indicated in the
    *current* ingredient listing. Green beans w/onions and
    bacon make a great side dish with this.

    Yield: 6 servings

    Dawn's note: "Shared with me by a coworker. Another fix
    it and forget it recipe."

    Recipe from: http://www.food.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 22 06:28:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Ours are mosly full, but usually room for one or 2 more. Thinking of tranferring my Jean Auel and James Clavell to the Nook; that'll free up some room. Also do my Barbara Taylor Bradford and Bruce Catton; those 4 authors now occupy 2 shelves.

    I have read all of Clavell's novel output since King Rat. And watched
    the first Version of "Shogun" in 1980 when I was still watching
    TeeVee. He does/did great historical novels and since his day job was
    as a script writer in Hollywood - many of his yarns have been made
    into movies and babble-box shows. Some great like King Rat and Shogun
    and some eminently forgettable like Tai Pan which was adapted by someone not Clavell. They should have let Clavell do the screenplay rather than the hack they used.

    The Shogun series has 6 books--Shogun,Tai-Pan, Gai-Jin, King Rat, Noble House and Whirlwind. I've read/own them all, didn't really care for
    King Rat but some of the characters showed up in Noble House. Never did watch the series.

    They're all connected. King Rat is semi-autobiographical as Clavell was
    a P.O.W. in WWII.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    I'm going to have to start a second "ECHOMAIL" base in Meal Master as
    I am at 21,000 recipes that I have entered for use in the echo. Wow!

    I've cut way back on the recipies I want to save, thinking of "Will I actually make it or not?" now.

    I save them if they are interesting to me and if I think "I'd eat
    that" after making the dish in my mind.

    That's the way I was thinking when I first started with the echo but
    got to the point where I was saving a lot more than I was making. Did incorporate some things I'd read about into our way of eating, use of balsamic vinegar for one.

    If nothing else it's a good research tool. I have to search the database
    before banging a newly interesting recipe into MM format lest I wind up
    with dupes.

    Here's one - since I know you like Chick Filly whereas I have stood on more than enough lines when I was in Unc's Yacht Club. Bv)=

    Title: Copycat Chick Fil A Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Condiments
    Yield: 6 servings

    Except I don't like sauce on a lot of things. For a C-F-A sandwich I'll use just one packet of mayonnaise, no ketchup or bbq or especially no honey mustard.

    I'm not a fan of honey-mustard either. If I'm going to do honey - I'll
    take it traight up. And my favourite mustard is Asian or DiJon style -
    IOW zippy. Bv)=

    I wouldn't pull a gun on you and make you use the stuff. My toppings
    are usually very basic. F'rinstance I'll do tomato, onion and mayo on
    a bacon cheezeburger.

    I'm not a huge fan of ketchup - not even on my French fries. I'm more likely to use mayo or tartar sauce if I use anything ... which is not
    very often.

    I don't put ketchup on fries either, prefer them plain. Hamburger (hold the cheese) will get tomato (or ketchup), sometimes onion and or
    lettuce, pickle (or pickle relish). But, like Michael, I like most
    meats unsauced.

    If one has to add sauce to make it interesting/edible it probably isn't
    very tasty to begin with. Although if doing "BBQ" chicken on the grill
    I'll caramelize the BBQ sauce routinely. If doing it in a smoker (which
    I don't have any longer) I'll serve the sauce on the side for dipping.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mustard Chicken
    Categories: Oriental, Poultry, Vegetables, Rice, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 lb Chicken in bite-size pieces
    1/2 ts Salt; opt
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    2 ts Softened butter or oil
    1 c Onion; chopped
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    1 1/4 c Chicken broth
    2 tb Mild honey
    2 tb Lemon juice
    1/4 ts Salt; to taste (opt)
    1 1/2 c Cauliflower florets
    1 lg Carrot; scraped, thin sliced
    1/4 c Water
    1 tb Cornstarch
    2 tb Dijon-style mustard
    1 1/4 c Long-grain white rice; raw

    Cut chicken into small bite-sized pieces. Sprinkle with
    1/2 ts salt, if desired, and pepper. In large nonstick,
    spray-coated skillet, cook chicken pieces over medium
    heat, turning frequently with large wooden or plastic
    spoon, 7-10 minutes or until they begin to brown and
    are cooked through. Remove and set aside in medium bowl.

    In same skillet, combine butter, onion, garlic, and 3
    tb broth. Cook over medium heat, stirring frequently,
    6-7 minutes or until onion is tender. If liquid begins
    to evaporate, add a bit more broth.

    Add honey and lemon juice to pan with onions, and stir
    to combine well. Stir in remaining chicken broth and
    salt, if desired. Stir in reserved chicken, cauliflower,
    and carrot. Bring to a boil. Cover, reduce heat, and
    simmer 20 minutes or until flavors are blended. *

    Meanwhile, cook rice according to package directions.

    Combine water and cornstarch. Stir into simmering sauce
    and cook, stirring, until thickened. Stir in mustard.
    Simmer an additional 1 or 2 minutes. Arrange rice on
    large serving platter. Top with chicken and sauce.
    Or serve individual portions over rice.

    Judi's Notes: I have not tried this dish but cooking
    cauliflower for 20 minutes is just too long. I would
    advise 10 minutes tops to keep it's bright color and
    not become mushy.

    * UDD's note: I steam the cauliflower and carrot in my
    rice steamer before steaming the rice. Hold the veggies
    aside to add back into the mix with the chicken just
    long enough to let the flavours marry.

    Also noted: a wok will work well in place of the non-
    stick skillet. This is an oriental dish, after all.

    Shared and MM by Judi M. Phelps.

    Amended slightly by Uncle Dirty Dave

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 22 16:08:23 2024
    Re: Towing the (Credit) Line
    By: Dave Drum to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 2024 05:06 am

    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    On credit cards, I carry often a small balance but under 1,000. Right now it's higher but just covered a roofing job and am miway on a chimney fix. It's about 3k and going up to 4k. I'll bleed it off pretty fast.

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    What is the APR though? My American Express has the best annual percentage rate of my cards and it's at 23.97% (jut looked). The monthly percentage doesn't sound bad - until you do the math.

    Last time I did home repairs I floated a home equity lona. I could have covered the new roof and patio cover and tree removal from my checking account 0 but I didn't want to go back to living paycheck to paycheck.

    So I did the loan at 4.5% APR - and still paid it off as soon as I could. Then I learned that the hoe-eq loan was, in fact, a second mortgage when
    I got the papers following pay-off.

    Still, general purpose credit cards have ony been around sine 1958 with
    the introduction of the Bank Americard - which became Visa. And the AMEX card.

    For me the cards are a convenience item. And they let me tell panhandlers "Sorry, bub. I'm all on plastic."

    This is as close to a Diner's Club recipe as I have ....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Diner-Style Club Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Pork, Vegetables, Breads
    Yield: 2 servings

    6 sl Thin-cut bacon
    6 sl White bread; lightly toasted
    1/4 c Mayonnaise; more as needed
    2 lg Romaine or iceberg lettuce
    - leaves; more as needed
    1 (5 oz) beefsteak tomato;
    - thin sliced
    4 oz Thin-sliced roasted turkey
    Fine salt & black pepper
    Potato chips; toserve

    Position a rack in the middle of the oven; heat to
    425oF/218oC.

    Place a towel-lined platter near your workspace.

    Arrange the bacon strips in a single layer on a large,
    rimmed baking sheet and transfer to the oven (no need to
    wait for it to be preheated). Roast the bacon for 18 to
    20 minutes, or until it is crisped. Transfer to the
    prepared platter and break each strip in half.

    UDD NOTE: You can microwave your bacon in a 1000 watt
    or more powerful oven for 5 minutes using a microwave
    safe platter and paper towels.

    While the bacon is roasting, gather and prepare the
    remaining sandwich ingredients: the bread, mayonnaise,
    lettuce, tomato, turkey, and salt and pepper.

    To assemble the sandwiches, generously spread the
    mayonnaise on one side of each of the bread slices. Cut
    the lettuce leaves into 4 pieces, so they will fit
    neatly on the bread.

    Place a lettuce leaf on 2 of the slices; top each with a
    tomato slice, then 3 bacon halves and a quarter of the
    turkey, and season lightly with salt and pepper. Top
    with a second slice of bread, mayonnaise side down.
    Gently spread mayonnaise on the top slice of bread.
    Repeat layering the ingredients in the same order on top
    of this slice of bread. Cover the sandwiches with the
    final slice of bread, mayonnaise side down. Gently press
    down on each sandwich and use 4 toothpicks to secure the
    sandwich layers in 4 equally spaced spots, pressing all
    the way through the bottom slice of bread. Using a
    serrated knife, cut each sandwich diagonally, into 4
    triangular pieces (each piece should be secured in the
    center with a toothpick).

    Arrange the sandwiches on plates and serve with potato
    chips.

    From: Ann Maloney.

    Makes: 2 double-decker sandwiches

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.washingtonpost.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    ... Cinco de Mayo on Taco Tuesday. This is what I've been training for

    6.9% APR as quoted. A good deal I locked in long ago. Hasn't changed.

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ben Collver on Mon Jul 22 16:51:04 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ben Collver to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 2024 10:33 am

    Re: Books
    By: Carol Shenkenberger to Ben Collver on Wed Jul 03 2024 14:38:47

    You will like the Clan books I bet! She;s as accurate as possible on wh was known of the times with only some additions to flesh out Neanderthal

    You were right, i liked Clan of the Cavebear quite a bit. Interesting that it was pretty high up on the banned books list in the 90's. I loved the themes of survival in the outdoors and shamanism. Ayla makes a good hero. Now i have a new genre of book to seek out: Prehistoric Fiction.

    Banned? Probably somewhat graphic rape of an 11yo Ayla.

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 22 17:00:44 2024
    Re: Towing the Line was: Chic
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 2024 11:42 am

    Hi Carol,


    On credit cards, I carry often a small balance but under 1,000. Right now it's higher but just covered a roofing job and am miway on a chimney fix. It's about 3k and going up to 4k. I'll bleed it off pretty fast.

    This week we had some routine maintainence work done on the truck; air conditioner repair (return duct failed, had to be replace, area cleaned out); and upright freezer go into melt down mode (able to save a lot, decided to ditch some stuff). Don't know what the a/c cost, no cost for
    the freezer but do know credit card took a hit. We were supposed to be
    in VT this week so glad that trip was canceled so we could deal with the stuff here.



    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    Ours does too but don't know how much. Do know we have some savings
    which will probably pay the card off next cycle.


    I'll be close at end of month on it. Probably 2 months from now to payoff? Ih

    I have available cash now but it's my emergency funds.

    xxcarol
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  • From Matthew Munson@1:218/109 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 19:21:48 2024
    BY: Carol Shenkenberger (1:275/100)

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    Thats a dreamy apr. my lowest is 13.15


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 23 12:11:04 2024
    Hi Dave,

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times when we
    had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling unit), a windfall
    has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    Found money is *always* nice.

    Yes, but no such windfalls this week. Truck needed some routine work,
    a/c return failed and had to be replaced & system cleaned, then
    something in the upright freezer jammed the door just slightly open &
    iced up the system. Found that in time to rescue most everything, gave
    us a chance to weed out some stuff. Thankfully, Tricare for Life and Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.

    Bruo (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    Hopefully nothing too serious. Steve dropped off the camper today for
    the work that needs doing, and hopefully covered by insurance.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldom the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    Almost Swiss, then. Bv)=

    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.


    Title: Swiss Chicken Casserole (Crock Pot)
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Soups, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Nice an easy.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 23 12:15:02 2024
    Hi Dave,

    The Shogun series has 6 books--Shogun,Tai-Pan, Gai-Jin, King Rat, Noble House and Whirlwind. I've read/own them all, didn't really care for
    King Rat but some of the characters showed up in Noble House. Never did watch the series.

    They're all connected. King Rat is semi-autobiographical as Clavell
    was a P.O.W. in WWII.

    I know they're connected but just didn't care for King Rat as much.
    Whirlwind was quite interesting, whole different setting than Asia.


    I save them if they are interesting to me and if I think "I'd eat
    that" after making the dish in my mind.

    That's the way I was thinking when I first started with the echo but
    got to the point where I was saving a lot more than I was making. Did incorporate some things I'd read about into our way of eating, use of balsamic vinegar for one.

    If nothing else it's a good research tool. I have to search the
    database before banging a newly interesting recipe into MM format lest
    I wind up with dupes.

    That probably takes some time. (G)

    I'm not a huge fan of ketchup - not even on my French fries. I'm more likely to use mayo or tartar sauce if I use anything ... which is not
    very often.

    I don't put ketchup on fries either, prefer them plain. Hamburger (hold the cheese) will get tomato (or ketchup), sometimes onion and or
    lettuce, pickle (or pickle relish). But, like Michael, I like most
    meats unsauced.

    If one has to add sauce to make it interesting/edible it probably
    isn't very tasty to begin with. Although if doing "BBQ" chicken on the grill
    I'll caramelize the BBQ sauce routinely. If doing it in a smoker
    (which I don't have any longer) I'll serve the sauce on the side for dipping.

    We like what's called the Cornell recipe marinade, salad oil, egg,
    vinegar, salt (some people add pepper) and poultry seasoning. Marinade,
    then grill. A restaurant in central NY has become regionally famous specialising in chicken done this way. Recently talked with somebody
    from the Albany area; he said his family used to go there quite often
    (probably an hour or so's drive away).

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Jul 23 12:26:57 2024
    Hi Carol,

    This week we had some routine maintainence work done on the truck; air conditioner repair (return duct failed, had to be replace, area cleaned out); and upright freezer go into melt down mode (able to save a lot, decided to ditch some stuff). Don't know what the a/c cost, no cost for
    the freezer but do know credit card took a hit. We were supposed to be
    in VT this week so glad that trip was canceled so we could deal with the stuff here.

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    Ours does too but don't know how much. Do know we have some savings
    which will probably pay the card off next cycle.


    I'll be close at end of month on it. Probably 2 months from now to payoff? Ih

    Always a good feeling to have it paid off. We ran up one card quite a
    bit when we were in AZ the year Steve was in Korea and Rachel got
    married (actually about 16 months, bit over a year) but paid it all off,
    bit by bit. Had (still have) a low interest card; at one point I talked
    them into dropping the interest by 1% as a loyal customer.

    I have available cash now but it's my emergency funds.

    I do too, "bug out" money in case we need to hit the road to avoid a
    storm and can't use credit cards if machines are down.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 25 07:06:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We don't carry a balance on our cards either. Couple of times
    when we had big projects (house siding, new heating/cooling
    unit), a windfall has come in at the same time to pay for it.

    Found money is *always* nice.

    Yes, but no such windfalls this week. Truck needed some routine work,
    a/c return failed and had to be replaced & system cleaned, then
    something in the upright freezer jammed the door just slightly open &
    iced up the system. Found that in time to rescue most everything, gave
    us a chance to weed out some stuff. Thankfully, Tricare for Life and Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.

    Serviceman (current/former) and first responders get discounts in many
    places. AutoZone gives 10% - if they ask. If they are in uniform I hit
    the "DISCOUNT" tab automatically.

    Bruo (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    Hopefully nothing too serious. Steve dropped off the camper today
    for the work that needs doing, and hopefully covered by insurance.

    They kept it overnight waiting for a call-back from BMW as they had to
    ask for help. Hopefully I'll get the car back today - even if they have
    to wait for parts.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    The Guineas around here used both ricotta and cottage cheese. And
    once in a while just small curd cottage cheese.

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldom the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    Almost Swiss, then. Bv)=

    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said to and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Title: Swiss Chicken Casserole (Crock Pot)
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Soups, Dairy
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Nice an easy.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sicilian Beef One Pot
    Categories: Beef, Mushrooms, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 servings

    1/2 c A-P flour
    1 ts Salt; divided
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    2 1/2 lb Beef stew meat; trimmed
    4 tb Oil; divided
    1 lb Fresh mushrooms; quartered
    1 lg Green bell pepper; chopped
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1 3/4 c Beef broth
    26 oz Jar spaghetti sauce
    28 oz Can diced tomatoes;
    - undrained

    In a shallow dish, combine the flour, 1/2 teaspoon salt,
    and the black pepper. Roll beef in flour mixture,
    coating completely. In a soup pot, heat 3 tablespoons
    oil over high heat until hot; brown beef on all sides
    for 5 minutes.

    Remove beef from pot; set aside. Add mushrooms, bell
    pepper, onion, garlic, and remaining 1 tablespoon oil to
    pot, and cook 5 minutes, or until onions are tender,
    stirring occasionally.

    Add remaining ingredients, including remaining 1/2
    teaspoon salt; return beef to pot and bring to a boil.
    Reduce heat to low and simmer 1-1/2 to 2 hours, or until
    beef is fork-tender, stirring occasionally.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mrfood.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 25 07:42:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The Shogun series has 6 books--Shogun,Tai-Pan, Gai-Jin, King Rat, Noble House and Whirlwind. I've read/own them all, didn't really care for
    King Rat but some of the characters showed up in Noble House. Never did watch the series.

    They're all connected. King Rat is semi-autobiographical as Clavell
    was a P.O.W. in WWII.

    I know they're connected but just didn't care for King Rat as much. Whirlwind was quite interesting, whole different setting than Asia.

    Sadly, there won't be any more as Clavell felloff his twig in 1994.

    I save them if they are interesting to me and if I think "I'd eat
    that" after making the dish in my mind.

    That's the way I was thinking when I first started with the echo but
    got to the point where I was saving a lot more than I was making. Did incorporate some things I'd read about into our way of eating, use of balsamic vinegar for one.

    If nothing else it's a good research tool. I have to search the
    database before banging a newly interesting recipe into MM format
    lest I wind up with dupes.

    That probably takes some time. (G)

    Less time than it would waste if it's a dupe.

    I'm not a huge fan of ketchup - not even on my French fries. I'm more likely to use mayo or tartar sauce if I use anything ... which is not
    very often.

    I don't put ketchup on fries either, prefer them plain. Hamburger (hold the cheese) will get tomato (or ketchup), sometimes onion and or
    lettuce, pickle (or pickle relish). But, like Michael, I like most
    meats unsauced.

    If one has to add sauce to make it interesting/edible it probably
    isn't very tasty to begin with. Although if doing "BBQ" chicken on the grill I'll caramelize the BBQ sauce routinely. If doing it in a smoker (which I don't have any longer) I'll serve the sauce on the side for dipping.

    We like what's called the Cornell recipe marinade, salad oil, egg, vinegar, salt (some people add pepper) and poultry seasoning. Marinade, then grill. A restaurant in central NY has become regionally famous specialising in chicken done this way. Recently talked with somebody
    from the Albany area; he said his family used to go there quite often (probably an hour or so's drive away).

    I don't know that I'd drive that far just for a meal. Although if I was already in the area for another purpose ........

    If I marinade my chicken it's more likely to be something like this:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------MARINADE-------------------------------
    2 c Buttermilk or plain yogurt
    - thinned with a little milk
    1 lg Onion; sliced
    1/4 c Mixed fresh herbs; chopped
    1/2 ts Paprika
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    3 lb Chicken thighs & drumsticks,
    - bone-in, skin-on

    MMMMM---------------------TO FRY THE CHICKEN--------------------------
    2 c Cooking oil
    2 c A-P flour
    1/2 ts Garlic salt
    1/2 ts Onion salt
    1 ts Cayenne pepper
    Salt & fresh ground pepper

    MARINATE THE CHICKEN IN BUTTERMILK MIXTURE: Combine the
    buttermilk, sliced onion, herbs, paprika, and cayenne in
    a large bowl. Place the chicken pieces in the buttermilk
    mixture and coat completely. Cover and marinate
    overnight (at least 8 hours).

    DRAIN THE CHICKEN: Place chicken pieces in a colander
    and drain the excess buttermilk mixture.

    COAT THE CHICKEN PIECES WITH FLOUR: In a large sturdy
    paper or plastic bag, mix flour with garlic salt, onion
    salt, cayenne, salt and pepper. Place chicken pieces
    into bag with flour mixture and shake until thoroughly
    coated.

    HEAT THE OIL IN THICK-BOTTOMED PAN: Heat 2 cups of oil
    in a large, heavy-bottomed skillet (cast iron, stainless
    steel, or anodized aluminum-something that can take the
    heat) on medium high heat until a pinch of flour starts
    to sizzle when dropped in the hot oil (but not so hot
    that the pan is smoking), about 350oF/175oC. Remember
    when working with hot oil, always have a pan lid close
    by.

    FRY THE CHICKEN: Working in batches, add the chicken
    pieces to the hot oil in the pan and fry on one side for
    10 to 12 minutes, until golden brown, and then use metal
    tongs to turn the pieces over and fry for another 10 to
    12 minutes, until golden brown. Cook about 5 pieces at a
    time, making sure not to crowd the pan. Repeat until all
    the pieces are cooked.

    Be careful to keep the oil hot enough to cook the
    chicken thoroughly, but not so high that it burns the
    batter.

    PLACE CHICKEN ON RACK TO DRAIN EXCESS OIL: Use tongs to
    remove chicken from pan. Place on a rack over a cookie
    sheet or broiling pan for the excess oil to drain. Add
    more salt and pepper to taste. Let cool about 10 to 15
    minutes before serving.

    By: Elise Bauer

    RECIPE FROM:https://www.simplyrecipes.com

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Matthew Munson on Thu Jul 25 16:32:46 2024
    Re: Re: Towing the Line was: Chic
    By: Matthew Munson to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jul 20 2024 07:21 pm

    BY: Carol Shenkenberger (1:275/100)

    The card is at 6.9% and pays cash back on any purchase (4% I think?).

    Thats a dreamy apr. my lowest is 13.15


    That it is! I use it in place of a loan for things.

    xxcarol

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jul 25 13:29:41 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.

    Serviceman (current/former) and first responders get discounts in many places. AutoZone gives 10% - if they ask. If they are in uniform I hit
    the "DISCOUNT" tab automatically.

    We get it at quite a few places, sometimes coded at the register as a
    "senior" discount. Of course Steve's grey hair is a give away there that
    he's entitled to that one. (G) One nice thing about the Michael's craft
    store chain--they give the discount to spouses of retirees also.


    Bruo (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    Hopefully nothing too serious. Steve dropped off the camper today
    for the work that needs doing, and hopefully covered by insurance.

    They kept it overnight waiting for a call-back from BMW as they had to
    ask for help. Hopefully I'll get the car back today - even if they
    have to wait for parts.

    All the parts are in for the camper and it is up at the RV place; they
    said they'll begin work next week. Next trip isn't planned until late
    September but we may do a local one if we get it back soon.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldom the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    Almost Swiss, then. Bv)=

    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said to and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Understandable. We've spent some enjoyable time in Switzerland when we
    were stationed in Germany. Used to camp in Interlaken with friends; we'd
    bring marshmallows and graham crackers but buy the chocolate down there.
    One year we introduced (American) missionary kids living in France to
    S'mores.

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jul 25 13:38:28 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I know they're connected but just didn't care for King Rat as much. Whirlwind was quite interesting, whole different setting than Asia.

    Sadly, there won't be any more as Clavell felloff his twig in 1994.

    I know, it makes me wonder what he and Michener would have written had
    they lived longer.


    If nothing else it's a good research tool. I have to search the
    database before banging a newly interesting recipe into MM format
    lest I wind up with dupes.

    That probably takes some time. (G)

    Less time than it would waste if it's a dupe.

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or we
    tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.


    We like what's called the Cornell recipe marinade, salad oil, egg, vinegar, salt (some people add pepper) and poultry seasoning. Marinade, then grill. A restaurant in central NY has become regionally famous specialising in chicken done this way. Recently talked with somebody
    from the Albany area; he said his family used to go there quite often (probably an hour or so's drive away).

    I don't know that I'd drive that far just for a meal. Although if I
    was already in the area for another purpose ........

    It's an hour from where I grew up; my family's eye doctor was there and
    it was a big enough place for more/better shopping than the little town
    we lived in (population about 850). For the last almost 3 years of his
    life, my dad was in a nursing home there & we'd visit him on our way
    to/from VT. We'd always have a meal at Brook's while we were there.
    Knowing that Nancy was going to host a picnic at the pond one year, we
    bought a bottle of their sauce. I also made my version; the consensus
    was that the home made beat the commercial in taste. (G)

    If I marinade my chicken it's more likely to be something like this:


    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 27 07:10:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I know they're connected but just didn't care for King Rat as much. Whirlwind was quite interesting, whole different setting than Asia.

    Sadly, there won't be any more as Clavell felloff his twig in 1994.

    I know, it makes me wonder what he and Michener would have written had they lived longer.

    Michener did great, if exhaustive, travelogues.

    If nothing else it's a good research tool. I have to search the
    database before banging a newly interesting recipe into MM format
    lest I wind up with dupes.

    That probably takes some time. (G)

    Less time than it would waste if it's a dupe.

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the fixit
    shop. I've been going through my floppies and e-mailing anything I want
    to save to myself on the "big" confuser. That way i can have it on hard
    disk or USB drive.

    We like what's called the Cornell recipe marinade, salad oil, egg, vinegar, salt (some people add pepper) and poultry seasoning. Marinade, then grill. A restaurant in central NY has become regionally famous specialising in chicken done this way. Recently talked with somebody
    from the Albany area; he said his family used to go there quite often (probably an hour or so's drive away).

    I don't know that I'd drive that far just for a meal. Although if I
    was already in the area for another purpose ........

    It's an hour from where I grew up; my family's eye doctor was there and
    it was a big enough place for more/better shopping than the little town
    we lived in (population about 850). For the last almost 3 years of his life, my dad was in a nursing home there & we'd visit him on our way to/from VT. We'd always have a meal at Brook's while we were there. Knowing that Nancy was going to host a picnic at the pond one year, we bought a bottle of their sauce. I also made my version; the consensus
    was that the home made beat the commercial in taste. (G)

    We had a Brook's Drive In (no relation I'm sure) in the town where I was
    born. We used to go there about once a week and eat in the car - they
    actually had car-hops back then. Even as a 6 y-o I could put away an
    order of fries, burger andchocolate shake. Bv)=

    If I marinade my chicken it's more likely to be something like this:

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that usig the oven does not heat the
    house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350ºF and leaving the door of the oven ajar while the
    fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Grilled Chicken Negro Mole
    Categories: Poultry, Sauces, Chilies, Herbs, Nuts
    Yield: 5 Servings

    MMMMM-------------------------NEGRO MOLE------------------------------
    1 tb Toasted sesame seeds
    4 Dried ancho chilies; torn in
    - pieces, some seeds left in
    2 Dried guajillo chilies, torn
    - in pieces, some seeds
    - discarded
    3 tb Blanched, slivered almonds
    2 tb Raisins
    1 c White onion; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1/2 ts Cinnamon
    1/2 ts Dried Mexican oregano
    pn Ground cloves
    1 tb Piloncillo Mexican cane
    - sugar
    3 c Chicken broth
    1/4 c Lard
    2 oz Dark Mexican chocolate; fine
    - chopped or grated
    1/2 ts Kosher salt

    MMMMM--------------------------CHICKEN-------------------------------
    5 lb Free range organic chicken;
    - in 8 serving pieces
    1 ts Ground ancho chile
    1/2 ts Ground chipotle
    1 ts Ground cumin
    1 tb Granulated garlic
    2 ts Kosher salt
    1/2 ts Fresh ground black pepper
    Cayenne pepper
    1/4 c Scallions; fine sliced,
    - garnish
    1/4 c Cilantro leaves; chopped,
    - garnish

    Recipe Courtesy: Guy Fieri

    PREPARE MOLE NEGRO: In a large saute pan over medium heat,
    toast the chilies on both sides until they soften and
    become fragrant, for 20 to 30 seconds, being careful not
    to scorch them.

    Add 1 cup of hot water just to cover and set aside to
    reconstitute for 30 minutes.

    Add the chilies and soaking water, toasted sesame seeds,
    almonds, raisins, onion, garlic, cinnamon, oregano,
    cloves, piloncillo Mexican cane sugar and 1/2 cup of
    chicken broth to a blender or food processor. Puree the
    ingredients until very smooth adding a little more broth,
    if too thick.

    COOK THE MOLE NEGRO: In a 6 quart Dutch oven over
    medium-high heat, add the lard and pureed mole mixture,
    and cook, stirring constantly, until most of the liquid
    has evaporated and it becomes shiny, for 6 to 8 minutes.

    Add the remaining broth and chocolate. Bring to a boil
    for about 5 minutes then reduce to a simmer, uncovered,
    until it is a thick consistency, for about 15 minutes.
    Season with salt, to taste. Remove from heat, cover and
    keep warm.

    Preheat the oven to 350ºF/175ºC. Preheat grill to high.

    PREPARE THE CHICKEN: In a small bowl, add the ancho,
    chipotle, cumin, garlic, salt, pepper and cayenne. Mix
    well to combine and set aside.

    Season the chicken pieces all over with spice mixture and
    set aside to briefly marinate while you set up grill.

    Set grill to high and wipe down grates with an oil blotted
    paper towel to clean and create a non-stick surface.

    Place chicken pieces on grill skin side down first to
    char. Cook for 3 to 4 minutes (moving the chicken if you
    have any flare ups) on the first side then turn and cook
    on the second side for another 3 to 4 minutes.

    Once chicken is marked off well, transfer to a roasting
    tray and finish cooking in the oven for 15 to 20 minutes.

    TO SERVE, ladle the mole sauce on the bottom of a large
    platter and arrange chicken pieces on the top so the
    chicken skin stays nice and crispy. Garnish with scallions
    and cilantro. Serve with extra mole sauce on the side.

    Yield: serves 4 to 6

    Source: Cocoa Loco Episode - Guy's Big Bite

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.guyfieri.com

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 27 08:09:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    In a message to Dave Drum you wrote:

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or
    we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    Butting in here: Could you ask Steve if he has a way to copy a c64 floppy
    to a image file one can use in an emulator? I found my c64 stuff and there
    is a floppy I /really/ want to see again but I have trust issues sending things to a random company.

    Thanks,
    Shawn


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 27 16:18:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Medicare covered my (specialist) doctor's appointment and we were able
    to use the camper (which has a/c) when the house got hot. Also, Steve
    got a bit of a discount on the truck work.

    Serviceman (current/former) and first responders get discounts in many places. AutoZone gives 10% - if they ask. If they are in uniform I hit
    the "DISCOUNT" tab automatically.

    We get it at quite a few places, sometimes coded at the register as a "senior" discount. Of course Steve's grey hair is a give away there
    that he's entitled to that one. (G) One nice thing about the Michael's craft store chain--they give the discount to spouses of retirees also.

    Hardee's/Carl's Jr. of the fats food places mhere gives a 10% senior spiff. But, you may have to remind the clerk the deduct the amount.

    Bruno (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    Hopefully nothing too serious. Steve dropped off the camper today
    for the work that needs doing, and hopefully covered by insurance.

    They kept it overnight waiting for a call-back from BMW as they had to
    ask for help. Hopefully I'll get the car back today - even if they
    have to wait for parts.

    Turned out that a wonky igition coil was the cause of the transmission
    shiftig to neutral. Which is bizarre i my experience. But, that's why I
    get my service done at Eurosport. They have (or can get) the solutions
    to my problems. And it turned out that the coils from BMW were actually
    le$$ that the aftermarket units from AutoZone. Which does't hapen often.

    All the parts are in for the camper and it is up at the RV place; they said they'll begin work next week. Next trip isn't planned until late September but we may do a local one if we get it back soon.

    There's some pretty territory oven in the west end of your state. And
    a bit of history revolving around the moonshiners and reveners.

    8<----- WHACK ----->8

    Guess it depends on what area of Italy you're from.

    There are regional specialtiesd in nearly any cuisine.It's seldom the
    same all over the country. Bv)=

    True, Steve's mom's family is from the Calabrian region, the toe of the boot. Well known as stone cutters.

    Almost Swiss, then. Bv)=

    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said to and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Understandable. We've spent some enjoyable time in Switzerland when we were stationed in Germany. Used to camp in Interlaken with friends;
    we'd bring marshmallows and graham crackers but buy the chocolate down there. One year we introduced (American) missionary kids living in
    France to S'mores.

    I sort of envy you guys the travel you got on Uncle Sugar's nickle. I
    spent my whole enlistment after boot camp at the Naval Air Station in Millington, Tn. Did fly around the world once on a "training" flight.
    Saw a lot of blue water and cloud passing under out aero-chine. And
    found that the inside of one military air field is much like any other
    right down to the mess hall.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef)
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 10 Servings

    2 lb Ground Beef
    1/8 lb Onions, chopped
    3 oz General purpose flour
    32 oz Can crushed tomatoes
    1/8 oz Mace; ground
    +=OR=+
    1/8 oz Nutmeg; ground
    1/8 oz (ea) Salt & Pepper

    Cook beef with onions in its own fat until beef loses
    its pink color, stirring to break apart. Drain or skim
    off excess fat. (Or not - UDD)

    Sprinkle flour over beef; continue cooking until flour
    is absorbed.

    Add tomatoes, mace or nutmeg, salt and pepper. Stir
    well. Simmer 10 to 15 minutes.

    Serve over toast, biscuits, rice or pasta.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 28 07:24:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    In a message to Ruth Haffly you wrote:

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the
    hard disk or USB drive.

    Can you image a floppy if I mailed it to you?

    Shawn


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 27 13:47:19 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Sadly, there won't be any more as Clavell felloff his twig in 1994.

    I know, it makes me wonder what he and Michener would have written had they lived longer.

    Michener did great, if exhaustive, travelogues.

    He'd concentrate on one place, from prehistory up to the time he was
    there researching it.

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the
    fixit shop. I've been going through my floppies and e-mailing anything
    I want to save to myself on the "big" confuser. That way i can have it
    on hard disk or USB drive.

    TBH, I've got a huge enough collection of recipies that I don't really
    care if these are salvageable or not. Some, maybe but not the vast
    majority.

    Marinade, RH> then grill. A restaurant in central NY has become
    regionally famous RH> specialising in chicken done this way. Recently
    talked with somebody RH> from the Albany area; he said his family used
    to go there quite often RH> (probably an hour or so's drive away).

    I don't know that I'd drive that far just for a meal. Although if I
    was already in the area for another purpose ........

    It's an hour from where I grew up; my family's eye doctor was there and
    it was a big enough place for more/better shopping than the little town
    we lived in (population about 850). For the last almost 3 years of his life, my dad was in a nursing home there & we'd visit him on our way to/from VT. We'd always have a meal at Brook's while we were there. Knowing that Nancy was going to host a picnic at the pond one year, we bought a bottle of their sauce. I also made my version; the consensus
    was that the home made beat the commercial in taste. (G)

    We had a Brook's Drive In (no relation I'm sure) in the town where I
    was born. We used to go there about once a week and eat in the car -
    they
    actually had car-hops back then. Even as a 6 y-o I could put away an
    order of fries, burger andchocolate shake. Bv)=

    I could do a regular burger, small fries, small drink at McD's when they
    first came to our area. Whole thing cost me 45 cents. (G) I still don't
    eat more than that but usually sub out chicken for the beef and salad
    for the fries. Cost is a lot more tho.


    If I marinade my chicken it's more likely to be something like this:

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that usig the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350ºF and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs,
    like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Jul 27 14:05:39 2024
    Hi Shawn,

    Hi Ruth,
    In a message to Dave Drum you wrote:

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or
    we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    Butting in here: Could you ask Steve if he has a way to copy a c64
    floppy to a image file one can use in an emulator? I found my c64
    stuff and there is a floppy I /really/ want to see again but I have
    trust issues sending things to a random company.

    Thanks for the idea but as I told Dave in today's packet, I have enough
    cook books, print outs, clippings, etc that I'm not interested any more
    in the vast majority of the contents of the floppies. I think he does
    have a C-64 emulator but it's just not worth the time/effort unless I
    know I want a specific recipe posted by a specific person on a specific
    date. We do have a good sized MM file of recipies saved from the echo
    once we got a PC, plus the internet has a gajillion more so I don't lack
    for ideas. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 29 07:49:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sadly, there won't be any more as Clavell felloff his twig in 1994.

    I know, it makes me wonder what he and Michener would have written had they lived longer.

    Michener did great, if exhaustive, travelogues.

    He'd concentrate on one place, from prehistory up to the time he was
    there researching it.

    I especially like Hawaii, Chesapeake, and Iberia. Ad he wrote "The Bridges
    at Toko Ri" which was made into a pretty good movie.

    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the
    fixit shop. I've been going through my floppies and e-mailing anything
    I want to save to myself on the "big" confuser. That way i can have it
    on hard disk or USB drive.

    TBH, I've got a huge enough collection of recipies that I don't really care if these are salvageable or not. Some, maybe but not the vast majority.

    Aw, jeez. I had a senior moment there. I can't locate my old 300 baud
    modem for the 64. And I no longer have an Am,iga or Windoze box that can
    be used to read *any* floppy discs.

    8<----- NIP ----->8

    We had a Brook's Drive In (no relation I'm sure) in the town where I
    was born. We used to go there about once a week and eat in the car -
    they actually had car-hops back then. Even as a 6 y-o I could put
    away an order of fries, burger and MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Air Fryer Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Dairy, Herbs
    Yield: 5 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------CHICKEN-------------------------------
    4 lb Drumsticks or leg quarters;
    - split
    1 ts Kosher salt
    1 ts Ground black pepper
    2 c Buttermilk

    MMMMM--------------------------COATING-------------------------------
    2 c A-P flour
    1 tb Lawry's season salt
    1 ts Kosher salt
    1 ts Ground black pepper
    1 tb Garlic powder
    1 tb Paprika
    Spray olive oil for cooking

    MARINATE THE CHICKEN: Season the chicken well with salt
    and pepper and then add it to a bowl with buttermilk.
    Chicken pieces should be covered with the buttermilk.
    Let it sit for at least an hour or up to overnight.

    BREAD THE CHICKEN: To prepare the breading mixture, stir
    together flour, seasoned salt, salt, pepper, garlic
    powder, and paprika.

    Remove chicken pieces from buttermilk and shake off any
    excess; then dip in the flour mix and coat well.
    Transfer breaded chicken pieces to a clean plate or wire
    rack to rest.

    AIR-FRY THE CHICKEN: You will need to work in two
    batches if you are doing a full chicken. Spray the
    basket of your air fryer with nonstick spray. Place half
    of the pieces in the basket of your air fryer. Try to
    ensure the pieces don’t touch. Air needs to circulate
    around them.

    Spray the chicken pieces lightly with spray oil. Place
    the basket in the air fryer and turn the air fryer to
    350ºFF/175ºC. Cook for 14 minutes, then flip the fried
    chicken with tongs, spray lightly with oil a second time
    on the bottom side of the chicken, and cook for another
    10 to 12 minutes, until chicken reaches 175ºF/80ºC.

    SIMPLE TIP! During the air frying process, if you pull
    out the chicken and notice any dry flour spots on the
    chicken, spray those spots lightly with oil. The
    breading will never crisp up if it doesn’t have a tiny
    bit of oil to hydrate it. It will just burn.

    SERVE: When the fried chicken is ready, let it rest on a
    plate for a few minutes before serving. Serve
    immediately with salad, coleslaw, mashed potatoes, or
    your favorite fried chicken sides!

    Cooked fried chicken can be stored in the fridge for 5
    days and reheated in a 300ºF/150ºC oven for 8 to 10
    minutes.

    Makes: 4 to 6 servings

    By: Nick Evans

    RECIPE FROM:https://www.simplyrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM
    chocolate shake. Bv)=

    I could do a regular burger, small fries, small drink at McD's when
    they first came to our area. Whole thing cost me 45 cents. (G) I still don't eat more than that but usually sub out chicken for the beef and salad for the fries. Cost is a lot more tho.

    I remember those days well. When Mickey's D's came here burgers were 8c, w/cheese - 10c. Fries were 5c and a milkshake 15c. And the minimum wage
    back then was 90c/hr.

    If I marinade my chicken it's more likely to be something like this:

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that usig the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350ºF and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs, like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).

    I would do likewise - if I had the counter space. My toaster oven is
    also a convection oven (air fryer). I may toss my house-mates collection
    of plastic food containers - or at least condense it down to a reasonable
    size. He's badly infected with packrat-itis.

    Then I'd have a spot for the toaster oven.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Jul 29 07:52:08 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the
    hard disk or USB drive.

    Can you image a floppy if I mailed it to you?

    Probably not without buying/making soft and hardware to interface to a
    Windoze box. I have a parallel to parallel cable which I used to interface with my Amiga. But all of my Amigas have gone to that great bit bucket
    in the sky. And none of my current hardware has a parallel (printer) port.

    And my TotalTel modem (300 baud screamer) was lent to a now deceased
    friend some years ago - so I can't uven upload anything to a more up-
    to-dats system.

    Sorry. If I could I would. But .........

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Commodore
    Categories: Five, Booze, Citrus
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1 oz Rose's Lime juice
    1 oz Midori Melon liqueur
    1 oz Triple sec
    1 oz OVAL Vodka

    Shake, serve over ice for smooth and tasty goodness.

    FROM: http://www.idrink.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Jul 28 20:00:54 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Serviceman (current/former) and first responders get discounts in many places. AutoZone gives 10% - if they ask. If they are in uniform I hit
    the "DISCOUNT" tab automatically.

    We get it at quite a few places, sometimes coded at the register as a "senior" discount. Of course Steve's grey hair is a give away there
    that he's entitled to that one. (G) One nice thing about the Michael's craft store chain--they give the discount to spouses of retirees also.

    Hardee's/Carl's Jr. of the fats food places mhere gives a 10% senior spiff. But, you may have to remind the clerk the deduct the amount.

    The only Hardee's in WF closed several years ago, before the pandemic
    hit so we have to find one in neighboring communities. Carl's Jr. is a
    western chain; we've stopped there a time or two when west of the
    Mississippi.


    Bruno (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    Hopefully nothing too serious. Steve dropped off the camper today
    for the work that needs doing, and hopefully covered by insurance.

    They kept it overnight waiting for a call-back from BMW as they had to
    ask for help. Hopefully I'll get the car back today - even if they
    have to wait for parts.

    Turned out that a wonky igition coil was the cause of the transmission shiftig to neutral. Which is bizarre i my experience. But, that's why
    I get my service done at Eurosport. They have (or can get) the
    solutions
    to my problems. And it turned out that the coils from BMW were
    actually le$$ that the aftermarket units from AutoZone. Which does't
    hapen often.

    Interesting, so are you getting it fixed this week?


    All the parts are in for the camper and it is up at the RV place; they said they'll begin work next week. Next trip isn't planned until late September but we may do a local one if we get it back soon.

    There's some pretty territory oven in the west end of your state. And
    a bit of history revolving around the moonshiners and reveners.

    We've been out there various times. The lady that used to co-odinate our
    Quilts of Valor group was a native of Tennisee; her family went back generations. She told me about one ancester, Gunpowder Mary (Google it)
    and how she outsmarted the British during the Revolutionary War.


    8<----- WHACK ----->8


    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said to and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Understandable. We've spent some enjoyable time in Switzerland when we were stationed in Germany. Used to camp in Interlaken with friends;
    we'd bring marshmallows and graham crackers but buy the chocolate down there. One year we introduced (American) missionary kids living in
    France to S'mores.

    I sort of envy you guys the travel you got on Uncle Sugar's nickle. I spent my whole enlistment after boot camp at the Naval Air Station in Millington, Tn. Did fly around the world once on a "training" flight.
    Saw a lot of blue water and cloud passing under out aero-chine. And
    found that the inside of one military air field is much like any other right down to the mess hall.

    Should have stayed in longer, maybe had the chance to see more of the
    world. My dad was WWII, Navy, Pacific theater. He never cared for rice
    or spam, interestingly tho, did like canned corned beef, after the war.
    One 3 week stretch in December 44 to January 45 they had alternating
    meals of canned corned beef and Spam. Supply ship couldn't get thru.

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef)
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 30 06:34:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Tue, 29 Jul 24>, you wrote me:

    Can you image a floppy if I mailed it to you?
    Sorry. If I could I would. But .........

    It was worth asking. :) I'm going to run into someone one
    day that will be able to do it for me. There is a service in
    the US (RetroFloppy I think) but I'd have to mail the only
    copy of this to someone I don't know....

    I've got commodore hardware in storage, but I don't want
    to use vintage equipment that hasn't been serviced in 40 years
    because again... This is the only copy of the floppy.

    Shawn


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 30 06:10:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Serviceman (current/former) and first responders get discounts in many places. AutoZone gives 10% - if they ask. If they are in uniform I hit
    the "DISCOUNT" tab automatically.

    We get it at quite a few places, sometimes coded at the register as a "senior" discount. Of course Steve's grey hair is a give away there
    that he's entitled to that one. (G) One nice thing about the Michael's craft store chain--they give the discount to spouses of retirees also.

    Hardee's/Carl's Jr. of the fats food places mhere gives a 10% senior spiff. But, you may have to remind the clerk the deduct the amount.

    The only Hardee's in WF closed several years ago, before the pandemic
    hit so we have to find one in neighboring communities. Carl's Jr. is a western chain; we've stopped there a time or two when west of the Mississippi.

    When Carl's Jr. bought the Hardee's chain they initially re-branded many
    of the stores to Carl's Jr. and watched sales make a death dive. So they
    went back to being the more-familiar Hardee's

    The local franchisee dragged his feet on the new signage so didn't have
    to re-brand his stores. I understand the menus are slightly different
    beteen C-J and Hardee's.

    Bruno (the BMW) is going to Eurosport on Wednesday to get its oil
    changed and some little, niggling, problems looked at. The worst is jumping out of gear whilst driving down the road. I suspect low transmission fluid - but, he's not "making his territory" (drips) and there's no dipstick for either the engine oil or transmission fluid.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    Interesting, so are you getting it fixed this week?

    It's done. BMW FED-Exed the coils the day they diagnosed the problem and
    I picked up the car next day.

    All the parts are in for the camper and it is up at the RV place; they said they'll begin work next week. Next trip isn't planned until late September but we may do a local one if we get it back soon.

    There's some pretty territory oven in the west end of your state. And
    a bit of history revolving around the moonshiners and reveners.

    We've been out there various times. The lady that used to co-odinate
    our Quilts of Valor group was a native of Tennisee; her family went
    back generations. She told me about one ancester, Gunpowder Mary
    (Google it) and how she outsmarted the British during the Revolutionary War.


    8<----- WHACK ----->8


    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said toe and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Understandable. We've spent some enjoyable time in Switzerland when we were stationed in Germany. Used to camp in Interlaken with friends;
    we'd bring marshmallows and graham crackers but buy the chocolate down there. One year we introduced (American) missionary kids living in
    France to S'mores.

    I sort of envy you guys the travel you got on Uncle Sugar's nickle. I spent my whole enlistment after boot camp at the Naval Air Station in Millington, Tn. Did fly around the world once on a "training" flight.
    Saw a lot of blue water and cloud passing under out aero-chine. And
    found that the inside of one military air field is much like any other right down to the mess hall.

    Should have stayed in longer, maybe had the chance to see more of the world. My dad was WWII, Navy, Pacific theater. He never cared for rice
    or spam, interestingly tho, did like canned corned beef, after the war. One 3 week stretch in December 44 to January 45 they had alternating
    meals of canned corned beef and Spam. Supply ship couldn't get thru.

    My brother did a tour in Vietnam. To this day he will not eat rice.

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef)
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    We had S.O.S. fairly often when I was a youngster. Both the hamburger
    based and the "real" sliced, dried beef versions .... depending on how
    close it was to payday. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Creamed Chipped Beef (S.O.S.)
    Categories: Beef, Dairy, Breads, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 servings

    4 1/2 oz (2 jars) sliced dried beef;
    - in 1/2" strips
    3 tb Butter
    3 tb All-purpose flour
    1/2 ts Onion powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    2 c Milk
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce
    4 sl White bread; toasted, halved
    - diagonally

    Place beef in a medium bowl and add enough warm water to
    cover. Soak 2 minutes; drain.

    In a medium skillet over medium heat, melt butter; add
    flour, onion powder, salt, and pepper and cook 1 minute,
    stirring constantly. Add milk and Worcestershire sauce;
    mix well.

    Bring to a boil, reduce heat to low, and stir in beef.
    Cook 2 to 3 minutes, or until sauce is thickened,
    stirring constantly.

    Spoon an equal amount of beef mixture over each piece of
    toast. Serve immediately.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mrfood.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 29 12:59:02 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Michener did great, if exhaustive, travelogues.

    He'd concentrate on one place, from prehistory up to the time he was
    there researching it.

    I especially like Hawaii, Chesapeake, and Iberia. Ad he wrote "The
    Bridges at Toko Ri" which was made into a pretty good movie.

    A Reader's Digest condensation of Hawaii got me intrigued, Centennial
    got me hooked. (G)


    True; some of my "savings" are on the old 5" floppies; I started with
    the echo when we had the C-64. Don't know if Steve still has them or we tossed them out with one of our moves after we went with PCs.

    I still have a Commode Door 64 w/floppy. My 1702 moitor is at the
    fixit shop. I've been going through my floppies and e-mailing anything
    I want to save to myself on the "big" confuser. That way i can have it
    on hard disk or USB drive.

    TBH, I've got a huge enough collection of recipies that I don't really care if these are salvageable or not. Some, maybe but not the vast majority.

    Aw, jeez. I had a senior moment there. I can't locate my old 300 baud modem for the 64. And I no longer have an Am,iga or Windoze box that
    can be used to read *any* floppy discs.

    And I realised that we don't have a disc drive any more.

    8<----- NIP ----->8

    We had a Brook's Drive In (no relation I'm sure) in the town where I
    was born. We used to go there about once a week and eat in the car -
    they actually had car-hops back then. Even as a 6 y-o I could put
    away an order of fries, burger and MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06


    I could do a regular burger, small fries, small drink at McD's when
    they first came to our area. Whole thing cost me 45 cents. (G) I still don't eat more than that but usually sub out chicken for the beef and salad for the fries. Cost is a lot more tho.

    I remember those days well. When Mickey's D's came here burgers were
    8c, w/cheese - 10c. Fries were 5c and a milkshake 15c. And the minimum wage back then was 90c/hr.

    My basic rates for babysitting were 75c/hour, $1./hour after midnight.

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that usig the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350ºF and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs, like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 29 13:04:43 2024
    Hi Dave,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<


    I would do likewise - if I had the counter space. My toaster oven is
    also a convection oven (air fryer). I may toss my house-mates
    collection of plastic food containers - or at least condense it down
    to a reasonable size. He's badly infected with packrat-itis.

    I keep some plastic around for a while, then toss extras into recycle.
    Same with glass. Since Steve retired from the Army, I've bought more
    glass for storage than plastic but still use plastic for some things.


    Then I'd have a spot for the toaster oven.

    Our toaster oven is also a convection oven. We bought a larger one some
    years ago (able to hold a 13"x9" pan) but it hung over the fridge side
    of the counter. Still miss it from time to time as we had to rehome it
    after buying a new (larger) fridge. The larger fridge is nice tho. (G)
    Donated our old one to our church kitchen; it still worked well and the
    kitchen needed a larger fridge than what it had.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 31 06:39:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Michener did great, if exhaustive, travelogues.

    He'd concentrate on one place, from prehistory up to the time he was
    there researching it.

    I especially like Hawaii, Chesapeake, and Iberia. Ad he wrote "The
    Bridges at Toko Ri" which was made into a pretty good movie.

    A Reader's Digest condensation of Hawaii got me intrigued, Centennial
    got me hooked. (G)

    Centennial was very good also. Looking at the bibliography I did not
    realise that he had written so many novels

    8<----- NIP ----->8

    We had a Brook's Drive In (no relation I'm sure) in the town where I
    was born. We used to go there about once a week and eat in the car -
    they actually had car-hops back then. Even as a 6 y-o I could put
    away an order of fries, burger and MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    I could do a regular burger, small fries, small drink at McD's when
    they first came to our area. Whole thing cost me 45 cents. (G) I still don't eat more than that but usually sub out chicken for the beef and salad for the fries. Cost is a lot more tho.

    I remember those days well. When Mickey's D's came here burgers were
    8c, w/cheese - 10c. Fries were 5c and a milkshake 15c. And the minimum wage back then was 90c/hr.

    My basic rates for babysitting were 75c/hour, $1./hour after midnight.

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that using the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350.F and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs, like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).

    Toaster ovens are nice. In addition to my convection toaster oven I have
    an air-fryer that I bought in a weak moment (succumbed to the hype).

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Air Fryer Parmesan Crusted Chicken
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Sauces, Cheese, Breads
    Yield: 2 Servings

    2 Boned, skinned chicken
    - breast halves
    1 tb Garlic powder
    1/2 c Mayonnaise
    1/2 c Panko bread crumbs
    1/2 c Parmesan; grated or shredded

    Pound each breast with a meat hammer so they are even.

    Sprinkle with salt.

    Spread Mayo on both sides of each piece of chicken.

    Mix panko, Parmesan, and garlic powder

    Coat each piece of chicken in the panko/Parmesan mix.

    Set the air fryer @ 390oF/199oC.

    In a single layer, place in the air fryer.

    Cook for 15 minutes, turning once after 10 minutes.

    By Julian Barnes: Pedant In The Kitchen

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.adventuresofanurse.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 31 06:48:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I would do likewise - if I had the counter space. My toaster oven is
    also a convection oven (air fryer). I may toss my house-mates
    collection of plastic food containers - or at least condense it down
    to a reasonable size. He's badly infected with packrat-itis.

    I keep some plastic around for a while, then toss extras into recycle. Same with glass. Since Steve retired from the Army, I've bought more
    glass for storage than plastic but still use plastic for some things.

    A lot of what Dennis save is useful only for saving leftovers. Last time
    I went through are re-arranged things in the icebox I found several of
    his "science experiments" which I put in front of his computer monitor.

    Doesn't seem to have worked, though. I found another of his con tainers
    w/blue & green fur growing on the contents.

    Then I'd have a spot for the toaster oven.

    Our toaster oven is also a convection oven. We bought a larger one some years ago (able to hold a 13"x9" pan) but it hung over the fridge side
    of the counter. Still miss it from time to time as we had to rehome it after buying a new (larger) fridge. The larger fridge is nice tho. (G) Donated our old one to our church kitchen; it still worked well and the kitchen needed a larger fridge than what it had.

    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my
    budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    12 lg Cucumbers; very ripe
    1/2 c Salt
    4 1/2 c Water
    6 c Sugar
    1 qt Vinegar
    2 tb Mustard seeds
    1 tb Whole cloves
    1 (1") cinnamon stick

    Wash cucumbers; peel, cut in halves lengthwise and
    scoop out seeds.

    Let stand overnight in a brine made of the salt & water.

    Drain very well and cut into pieces.

    Tie spices into a cheesecloth bag.

    Bring sugar, vinegar and spices to a boil; add cucumbers
    and boil until cukes begin to look transparent but are
    still crisp.

    Fill sterilized jars and seal.

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    Yield: 3 quarts

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.food.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Jul 30 13:19:27 2024
    Hi Dave,

    The only Hardee's in WF closed several years ago, before the pandemic
    hit so we have to find one in neighboring communities. Carl's Jr. is a western chain; we've stopped there a time or two when west of the Mississippi.

    When Carl's Jr. bought the Hardee's chain they initially re-branded
    many of the stores to Carl's Jr. and watched sales make a death dive.
    So they went back to being the more-familiar Hardee's

    Hardee's is better known east of the Mississippi. They used to do a
    roast beef, similar to Arby's, slicing it after it was ordered. Probably
    Arby's (or Roy Rogers in some markets) was more popular but I wish
    they'd not discontinued it.

    The local franchisee dragged his feet on the new signage so didn't
    have to re-brand his stores. I understand the menus are slightly
    different beteen C-J and Hardee's.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the camper
    we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are similr, but, as
    you say, slight differences. I can't recall specific ones tho.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    Interesting, so are you getting it fixed this week?

    It's done. BMW FED-Exed the coils the day they diagnosed the problem
    and I picked up the car next day.

    Good, no idea how long the RV place will take with the camper. More work
    has to be done--taking off both long sides and replacing them is not a
    one day job.

    There's some pretty territory oven in the west end of your state. And
    a bit of history revolving around the moonshiners and reveners.

    We've been out there various times. The lady that used to co-odinate
    our Quilts of Valor group was a native of Tennisee; her family went
    back generations. She told me about one ancester, Gunpowder Mary
    (Google it) and how she outsmarted the British during the Revolutionary War.


    8<----- WHACK ----->8


    No, closer to Sicily. Switzerland is up near the top of the boot.

    Sorry you said toe and my mind read top. Bv)= Senior moment.

    Understandable. We've spent some enjoyable time in Switzerland when we were stationed in Germany. Used to camp in Interlaken with friends;
    we'd bring marshmallows and graham crackers but buy the chocolate down there. One year we introduced (American) missionary kids living in
    France to S'mores.

    I sort of envy you guys the travel you got on Uncle Sugar's nickle. I spent my whole enlistment after boot camp at the Naval Air Station in Millington, Tn. Did fly around the world once on a "training" flight.
    Saw a lot of blue water and cloud passing under out aero-chine. And
    found that the inside of one military air field is much like any other right down to the mess hall.

    Should have stayed in longer, maybe had the chance to see more of the world. My dad was WWII, Navy, Pacific theater. He never cared for rice
    or spam, interestingly tho, did like canned corned beef, after the war. One 3 week stretch in December 44 to January 45 they had alternating
    meals of canned corned beef and Spam. Supply ship couldn't get thru.

    My brother did a tour in Vietnam. To this day he will not eat rice.

    I'm not surprised. Back when our older daughter and her husband bought a Mitsubishi Eclipse, my dad didn't like the car because it was Japanese
    (one of his ships was hit by an--unsuccessful--kamikaze attack). He did
    buy German cars tho.


    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef)
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    We had S.O.S. fairly often when I was a youngster. Both the hamburger based and the "real" sliced, dried beef versions .... depending on how close it was to payday. Bv)=

    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Aug 1 07:20:03 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    The only Hardee's in WF closed several years ago, before the pandemic
    hit so we have to find one in neighboring communities. Carl's Jr. is a western chain; we've stopped there a time or two when west of the Mississippi.

    When Carl's Jr. bought the Hardee's chain they initially re-branded
    many of the stores to Carl's Jr. and watched sales make a death dive.
    So they went back to being the more-familiar Hardee's

    Hardee's is better known east of the Mississippi. They used to do a
    roast beef, similar to Arby's, slicing it after it was ordered.
    Probably Arby's (or Roy Rogers in some markets) was more popular but I wish they'd not discontinued it.

    Hardee's bought the Roy Rogers operation for their fried chicken and the
    roast beast came with. I used to enjoy watcheing the slicer "go to town"
    when they were making up a sandwich. And the fried chicken was *great*.
    Much better than Kentucky Fried Colonel for my $$$. And they got quite a
    bit of it before Carl's Jr. bought them and discontinued both the roast
    beef and the chicken. Bv(=

    The local franchisee dragged his feet on the new signage so didn't
    have to re-brand his stores. I understand the menus are slightly
    different beteen C-J and Hardee's.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the camper
    we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are similr, but, as you say, slight differences. I can't recall specific ones tho.

    The one thing that Carl's Jr. brought to Hardee's that I think is a plus
    iss the "Frisco" burger - a 1/3-pound charbroiled Black Angus beef patty covered in Swiss cheese, mayo, tomatoes, and bacon sandwiched between
    toasted sourdough.

    And now they have a BLT version which adds lettuce and more tomato and
    bacon. Right now they're offering 50% off in their app so I've had a
    few of those. By itself it's a meal.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    My brother did a tour in Vietnam. To this day he will not eat rice.

    I'm not surprised. Back when our older daughter and her husband bought
    a Mitsubishi Eclipse, my dad didn't like the car because it was
    Japanese (one of his ships was hit by an--unsuccessful--kamikaze
    attack). He did buy German cars tho.

    Well, Mitsubishi did manufacture the Zero and other aeroplaes before
    switching back to cars after the war.

    Bv)= In actuality it's the Japanese manufacturers who made Detroit "up
    their game" quality-wise. Used to be if you had a car the lasted for
    100K miles it was rare, Then came the post-WWII Japanese cars. Now it's
    not uncommon for me to wait on customers at AutoZone with domestic iron
    that has more than 200K and still going strong.

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef)
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    We had S.O.S. fairly often when I was a youngster. Both the hamburger based and the "real" sliced, dried beef versions .... depending on how close it was to payday. Bv)=

    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

    Since your Dad was in Unc's Yacht Club he probably put the kibosh on that.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: The Frisco Burger (copycat)
    Categories: Beef, Bread, Pork, Vegetables, Cheese
    Yield: 1 sandwich

    2 sl Sourdough bread
    2 tb Butter; softened
    1/3 lb Ground chuck (80/20)
    2 sl Ementhal (Swiss) cheese
    4 tb Mayonnaise
    1 sl (ro 2) tomato
    2 sl Cooked bacon
    Salt & black pepper

    Spread butter on one side of each piece of sourdough
    bread.

    Place a medium skillet or griddle over medium heat. Once
    the pan has pre-heated for 4 or 5 minutes add the slices
    of bread, butter side down. Toast for 2 to 4 minutes or
    until the outside surface of the bread is golden brown
    and toasty. You can toast the other side of the bread if
    you want, but it's not required.

    Raise the temperature under your pan/griddle to
    medium-high

    Once the bread is toasted to your liking, form the third
    pound of ground beef into a thin patty (about a 3/4-inch
    thick) that is a little bit wider than your toast (or as
    close as you can get). Salt and pepper the ground beef
    patty and place the seasoned side down in the hot pan.
    Season the second side and allow the patty to cook,
    untouched, for 3 to 4 minutes.

    Flip the patty and add one or two slices of Swiss cheese
    on top of the patty. Cover the pan to help the cheese
    melt and cook the second side for at least 2 minutes. If
    you're worried about undercooking the burger, cook the
    second side for an additional 2 to 3 minutes.

    Remove the patty to a plate while you assemble the rest
    of your burger.

    Add mayonnaise and the second slice of cheese to the
    inside of the bottom slice of bread. Top the cheese with
    your tomato slices. Season the tomato with a tiny pinch
    of salt and ground black pepper.

    Top the tomato slices with the burger patty and cheese.
    Add two slices of bacon and top with the second slice of
    sourdough that you have also spread mayonnaise on.

    Serve and enjoy.

    RECIPE FROM: https://boundedbybuns.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 31 14:40:44 2024
    Hi Dave,


    A Reader's Digest condensation of Hawaii got me intrigued, Centennial
    got me hooked. (G)

    Centennial was very good also. Looking at the bibliography I did not realise that he had written so many novels

    I've got a good number of them, mostly in paperback as they were
    accumulated while Steve was in the Army. Found Alaska on the free table
    at ReStore. Nook abridges them so I'm keeping my hard copy collection.

    8<----- NIP ----->8

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that using the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350.F and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs, like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).

    Toaster ovens are nice. In addition to my convection toaster oven I
    have an air-fryer that I bought in a weak moment (succumbed to the
    hype).

    We've not bought one of those yet, intrigued, but not interested enough
    to buy one. Plus, there's the storage space issue; I'd have to give up something else and don't want to do that.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 31 14:57:29 2024
    Hi Dave,

    to a reasonable size. He's badly infected with packrat-itis.

    I keep some plastic around for a while, then toss extras into recycle. Same with glass. Since Steve retired from the Army, I've bought more
    glass for storage than plastic but still use plastic for some things.

    A lot of what Dennis save is useful only for saving leftovers. Last
    time I went through are re-arranged things in the icebox I found
    several of
    his "science experiments" which I put in front of his computer
    monitor.

    I usually put left overs in glass now. Plastic is for the freezer, for
    the most part. Still have plastic marinader, salad spinner, a few boxes
    for cookie storage, etc.


    Doesn't seem to have worked, though. I found another of his con
    tainers w/blue & green fur growing on the contents.

    Ask him when he's having a science fair? (G)


    Then I'd have a spot for the toaster oven.

    Our toaster oven is also a convection oven. We bought a larger one some years ago (able to hold a 13"x9" pan) but it hung over the fridge side
    of the counter. Still miss it from time to time as we had to rehome it after buying a new (larger) fridge. The larger fridge is nice tho. (G) Donated our old one to our church kitchen; it still worked well and the kitchen needed a larger fridge than what it had.

    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Sounds good. We got ours on sale; it had a (small) dent in it and Lowe's
    marked it down, also gave us the military discount.


    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.


    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts


    Wash cucumbers; peel, cut in halves lengthwise and
    scoop out seeds.

    Let stand overnight in a brine made of the salt & water.

    That's the kind of pickle recipe I prefer, just a couple of days to
    make, not a couple of weeks.

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    That would be an interesting book to get hold of now.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Aug 2 06:29:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    A Reader's Digest condensation of Hawaii got me intrigued, Centennial
    got me hooked. (G)

    Centennial was very good also. Looking at the bibliography I did not realise that he had written so many novels

    I've got a good number of them, mostly in paperback as they were accumulated while Steve was in the Army. Found Alaska on the free table
    at ReStore. Nook abridges them so I'm keeping my hard copy collection.

    So does Reader's Digress. AFAIK Kindle doesn't do that unless it tells
    you up front.

    8<----- NIP ----->8

    Title: Buttermilk Fried Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Dairy, Chilies, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    That looks good but the way we do it keeps the kitchen cleaner and
    cooler. (G)

    My stove is well enough insulated that using the oven does not heat the house substantially. Although when my furnase quit last winter setting
    the thermostat to 350.F and leaving the door of the oven ajar while
    the fan on the air handler was set to "RUN" kept it liveable if not toasty.

    Ours is fairly well insulated and we have central a/c but the kitchen
    does get on the warm side. We use the toaster oven for small bake jobs, like the chicken casserole I made last night or the raspberry scones
    Steve made earlier in the week (from a mix).

    Toaster ovens are nice. In addition to my convection toaster oven I
    have an air-fryer that I bought in a weak moment (succumbed to the
    hype).

    We've not bought one of those yet, intrigued, but not interested enough
    to buy one. Plus, there's the storage space issue; I'd have to give up something else and don't want to do that.

    Swap out your current toaster oven for a convection toaaster oven and
    put it in the same cunter space. Then send the old unit to your chruch's
    or Habitat's op-shop. But, be warned, there is a learning curve on
    air-frying. Bv)=

    Late edit - disregard that paragraph. I see feom the following post that
    your toaster over in a convection/air fryer already. Still good advice.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Air Fryer Sweet Potato Tots
    Categories: Five, Potatoes, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 sm Sweet potatoes; peeled,
    - 14 oz. total
    1 tb Potato starch
    1/8 ts Garlic powder
    1 1/4 ts Kosher salt; divided
    3/4 c Ketchup or Ketchup-Rooster
    - Sauce mix
    Cooking spray

    Bring a medium pot of water to a boil over high heat.
    Add potatoes, and cook until just fork tender, about 15
    minutes. Transfer potatoes to a plate to cool, about 15
    minutes.

    Working over a medium bowl, grate potatoes using the
    large holes of a box grater. Gently toss with potato
    starch, garlic powder and 1 teaspoon salt.

    Shape mixture into about 24 (1") tot-shaped cylinders.

    Lightly coat air fryer basket with cooking spray. Place
    1/2 of tots (about 12) in single layer in the basket,
    and spray with cooking spray. Cook at 400°F/205°C until
    lightly browned, 12 to 14 minutes, turning tots halfway
    through cook time. Remove from fry basket and sprinkle
    with 1/8 teaspoon salt. Repeat with remaining tots and
    salt.

    Serve immediately with ketchup.

    Serves 4 (serving size: about 6 tots)

    By: Paige Grandjean

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Aug 2 06:39:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    to a reasonable size. He's badly infected with packrat-itis.

    I keep some plastic around for a while, then toss extras into recycle. Same with glass. Since Steve retired from the Army, I've bought more
    glass for storage than plastic but still use plastic for some things.

    A lot of what Dennis save is useful only for saving leftovers. Last
    time I went through are re-arranged things in the icebox I found
    several of his "science experiments" which I put in front of his
    computer monitor.

    I usually put left overs in glass now. Plastic is for the freezer, for
    the most part. Still have plastic marinader, salad spinner, a few boxes for cookie storage, etc.

    The plastic containers I save stuff in are purpose bought - not single
    use take-out stuff. I only have a couple Corningware covered casserole
    dishes I could use for stashing leftovers in the fridge.

    I do use some of his containers to parcel out chilli for others to take
    with. Or to take something with me to work. Where the container bravely
    jumps into the bin when it's empty. Bv)=

    Doesn't seem to have worked, though. I found another of his con
    tainers w/blue & green fur growing on the contents.

    Ask him when he's having a science fair? (G)

    And I'd get a blank look and possibly a "Huh?" Bv)=

    Then I'd have a spot for the toaster oven.

    Our toaster oven is also a convection oven. We bought a larger one some years ago (able to hold a 13"x9" pan) but it hung over the fridge side
    of the counter. Still miss it from time to time as we had to rehome it after buying a new (larger) fridge. The larger fridge is nice tho. (G) Donated our old one to our church kitchen; it still worked well and the kitchen needed a larger fridge than what it had.

    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Sounds good. We got ours on sale; it had a (small) dent in it and
    Lowe's marked it down, also gave us the military discount.

    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.

    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    8----- ELIDED ----->8

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    That would be an interesting book to get hold of now.

    Check the Internet Archives. They may have something you can download.
    I'm a contributing ($$$) member.

    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the stoneware
    crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Virginia Chunk Sweet Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Pickles, Preserving
    Yield: 16 Pints

    74 Cucumbers; 4" to 5" long
    +=OR=+
    2 ga Small (gherkin-sized) cukes

    MMMMM------------------------FIRST BRINE-----------------------------
    2 c Salt
    +=TO=+
    1 ga Water

    MMMMM------------------------SECOND BRINE-----------------------------
    2 c Salt
    +=AND=+
    1 tb Powdered alum
    +=TO=+
    1 ga Water

    MMMMM---------------------------PICKLE--------------------------------
    6 c Vinegar
    1/3 c Pickling spice
    1 tb Celery seed
    3 c Sugar; divided

    Make brine of 2 cups salt to 1 gallon water. Boil and
    pour boiling water over cucumbers. Let stand 1 week in
    hot weather. Skim daily. Drain and cut into chunks.

    The next 3 mornings make a boiling hot solution of 1 gal.
    water and 1 tablespoon alum and pour over pickles (fresh
    hot bath for 3 mornings). The 4th morning, drain from
    alum water and heat.

    Make mixture of 6 cups vinegar, 5 cups sugar, 1/3 cup
    pickling spice, and 1 tablespoon celery seed; pour over
    pickles. The 5th morning, drain this liquid off and add
    2 cups sugar; heat again to boiling point and pour over
    pickles. The 6th morning, drain liquid off and add 1 cup
    sugar; heat.

    Pack pickles into jars; finish filling jars with liquid
    and seal at once.

    FROM: Uncle Phaedrus, Finder of Lost Recipes

    From: http://hungrybrowser.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Aug 1 20:20:14 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Hardee's bought the Roy Rogers operation for their fried chicken and
    the roast beast came with. I used to enjoy watcheing the slicer "go to town" when they were making up a sandwich. And the fried chicken was *great*. Much better than Kentucky Fried Colonel for my $$$. And they
    got quite a bit of it before Carl's Jr. bought them and discontinued
    both the roast beef and the chicken. Bv(=

    There's a Roy Rogers in Winchester, VA. We stopped there last November
    on our way up north and yes, we got (good) roast beef sandwiches. Might
    make it a more often stop.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the camper
    we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are similr, but, as you say, slight differences. I can't recall specific ones tho.

    The one thing that Carl's Jr. brought to Hardee's that I think is a
    plus iss the "Frisco" burger - a 1/3-pound charbroiled Black Angus
    beef patty covered in Swiss cheese, mayo, tomatoes, and bacon
    sandwiched between
    toasted sourdough.

    And now they have a BLT version which adds lettuce and more tomato and bacon. Right now they're offering 50% off in their app so I've had a
    few of those. By itself it's a meal.

    I've seen it advertised on tv, both a chicken version and a beef
    version. I think I'd go for the chicken, but take the chicken out and
    have it on the side. We don't have the app so would pay full price if we
    went for it. Today's lunch was splitting a chicken bake at Costco; I
    had an appointment down in Raleigh, ran some other errands (including
    Costco) before going to the dr. Not the greatest but it beats a burger
    or their pizza.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    My brother did a tour in Vietnam. To this day he will not eat rice.

    I'm not surprised. Back when our older daughter and her husband bought
    a Mitsubishi Eclipse, my dad didn't like the car because it was
    Japanese (one of his ships was hit by an--unsuccessful--kamikaze
    attack). He did buy German cars tho.

    Well, Mitsubishi did manufacture the Zero and other aeroplaes before switching back to cars after the war.

    Which is why my dad was not happy to see our SIL's car.


    Bv)= In actuality it's the Japanese manufacturers who made Detroit "up their game" quality-wise. Used to be if you had a car the lasted for
    100K miles it was rare, Then came the post-WWII Japanese cars. Now
    it's not uncommon for me to wait on customers at AutoZone with
    domestic iron that has more than 200K and still going strong.

    We put probably 100,000+ miles on the Frontier, know we did 135,00+/-
    with the Honda in late 70s to early 80s.

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef) DD> Categories: Beef,
    Vegetables DD> Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    We had S.O.S. fairly often when I was a youngster. Both the hamburger based and the "real" sliced, dried beef versions .... depending on how close it was to payday. Bv)=

    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

    Since your Dad was in Unc's Yacht Club he probably put the kibosh on
    that.

    Most likely so. (G) First time I had it was in college, made with ground
    beef and served on a gritty roll. At the time, the school newspaper
    printed menus for the week ahead; they called it S.O.S. to nobody's
    (that I was aware of) objection. When the school opened up their new
    campus center with a cafeteria (instead of the under the dorms family
    style meals), they stopped printing the menus.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 3 05:47:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,


    Hardee's bought the Roy Rogers operation for their fried chicken and
    the roast beast came with. I used to enjoy watcheing the slicer "go to town" when they were making up a sandwich. And the fried chicken was *great*. Much better than Kentucky Fried Colonel for my $$$. And they
    got quite a bit of it before Carl's Jr. bought them and discontinued
    both the roast beef and the chicken. Bv(=

    There's a Roy Rogers in Winchester, VA. We stopped there last November
    on our way up north and yes, we got (good) roast beef sandwiches. Might make it a more often stop.

    The chain started in Ft. Wayne, IN as an outgrowth of Azar's Big Boy.

    The Roy Rogers chain was sold in 1990 to Imasco, then the parent company
    of Hardee's, and experienced severe decline as many locations converted
    to Hardee's. In 2002, the trademark was purchased by Plamondon Companies.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the camper
    we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are similr, but,
    as you say, slight differences. I can't recall specific ones tho.

    The one thing that Carl's Jr. brought to Hardee's that I think is a
    plus is the "Frisco" burger - a 1/3-pound charbroiled Black Angus
    beef patty covered in Swiss cheese, mayo, tomatoes, and bacon
    sandwiched between toasted sourdough.

    And now they have a BLT version which adds lettuce and more tomato and bacon. Right now they're offering 50% off in their app so I've had a
    few of those. By itself it's a meal.

    I've seen it advertised on tv, both a chicken version and a beef
    version. I think I'd go for the chicken, but take the chicken out and
    have it on the side. We don't have the app so would pay full price if
    we went for it. Today's lunch was splitting a chicken bake at Costco; I had an appointment down in Raleigh, ran some other errands (including Costco) before going to the dr. Not the greatest but it beats a burger
    or their pizza.

    Do the Hardee's in your area do coupons? I get a monthly mailing from
    some marketing outfit. Yesterday's haul had coupons for Popeyes, Subway,
    Burger King, Hardee's and Little Caesar's (who have improved their pizza greatly). Once in a while there is even a McD's sheet of coupons.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as a
    BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    My brother did a tour in Vietnam. To this day he will not eat rice.

    I'm not surprised. Back when our older daughter and her husband bought
    a Mitsubishi Eclipse, my dad didn't like the car because it was
    Japanese (one of his ships was hit by an--unsuccessful--kamikaze
    attack). He did buy German cars tho.

    Well, Mitsubishi did manufacture the Zero and other aeroplaes before switching back to cars after the war.

    Which is why my dad was not happy to see our SIL's car.

    Bv)= In actuality it's the Japanese manufacturers who made Detroit "up their game" quality-wise. Used to be if you had a car the lasted for
    100K miles it was rare, Then came the post-WWII Japanese cars. Now
    it's not uncommon for me to wait on customers at AutoZone with
    domestic iron that has more than 200K and still going strong.

    We put probably 100,000+ miles on the Frontier, know we did 135,00+/-
    with the Honda in late 70s to early 80s.

    I had an '87 Honda Accord I'd likely still be driving had that tool
    truck (Mac Tools dealer) not blown a stop sign just as I was entering
    the intersection. 30 mph to zero in a jiffy. And a dandy cut on my
    forehead. I did have my seatbelt on which no doubt saved more hurts.
    At the time it was wrecked it had over 200,000 miles on it.

    My current ride, Bruno the Beemer has been to the moon and is on his
    way home - 250,000 miles and still going strong.

    Title: Navy S.O.S. (Minced Beef) DD> Categories: Beef,
    Vegetables DD> Yield: 10 Servings

    Never heard of or saw that at home when I was growing up.

    We had S.O.S. fairly often when I was a youngster. Both the hamburger based and the "real" sliced, dried beef versions .... depending on how close it was to payday. Bv)=

    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

    Since your Dad was in Unc's Yacht Club he probably put the kibosh on
    that.

    Most likely so. (G) First time I had it was in college, made with
    ground beef and served on a gritty roll. At the time, the school
    newspaper printed menus for the week ahead; they called it S.O.S. to nobody's (that I was aware of) objection. When the school opened up
    their new campus center with a cafeteria (instead of the under the
    dorms family style meals), they stopped printing the menus.

    Well, yeah. But a list of available choices would have been nice. I'm
    not, and never have been a fan of cafeteria-style eating. If I'm doing
    "pick it yourself" pre-made dishes give me the wretched excess of a
    good ol' buffet.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Luby's Ratatouille
    Categories: Vegetables, Squash
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/4 c Olive oil
    2 md Yellow squash; in 3/4" pcs
    1 md Zucchini; in 3/4" pieces
    1 md Eggplant; in 3/4" pieces
    1 c Bell pepper; cored, seeded,
    - diced
    1 c Onion; chopped
    1 tb Dill seed
    1 ts Garlic; minced
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Pepper
    1 md Tomato; diced

    In a large skillet, heat the oil over medium heat. Add
    the squashes, eggplant, green bell pepper, and onion.
    Cook for 5 to 7 minutes or until the vegetables are
    almost tender, stirring frequently.

    Add the dill seed, garlic, salt, and pepper. Continue
    cooking for 1 minute or until the vegetables are tender,
    stirring frequently. Sprinkle with the diced tomato.

    Makes 8 servings.

    TIP: Do not peel the eggplant for this recipe. The deep
    purple skin adds appealing color and texture contrast.

    Recipe: "Luby's Cafeteria 50th Anniversary Recipe
    Collection" (Luby's Cafeterias, Inc., $9.95)

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 2 14:43:41 2024
    Hi Dave,

    Centennial was very good also. Looking at the bibliography I did not realise that he had written so many novels

    I've got a good number of them, mostly in paperback as they were accumulated while Steve was in the Army. Found Alaska on the free table
    at ReStore. Nook abridges them so I'm keeping my hard copy collection.

    So does Reader's Digress. AFAIK Kindle doesn't do that unless it tells
    you up front.

    Nook tells you in its store that it is abridges, saves me money. I need
    to transfer some of my other paperback to the Nook, clear off a shelf or
    2. (G)


    Toaster ovens are nice. In addition to my convection toaster oven I
    have an air-fryer that I bought in a weak moment (succumbed to the
    hype).

    We've not bought one of those yet, intrigued, but not interested enough
    to buy one. Plus, there's the storage space issue; I'd have to give up something else and don't want to do that.

    Swap out your current toaster oven for a convection toaaster oven and
    put it in the same cunter space. Then send the old unit to your
    chruch's or Habitat's op-shop. But, be warned, there is a learning
    curve on
    air-frying. Bv)=

    Late edit - disregard that paragraph. I see feom the following post
    that your toaster over in a convection/air fryer already. Still good advice.

    True, Steve took a quick look at an air fryer at Costco yesterday, told
    him that we don't need it. Fine with him as he's used the toaster oven
    on convection various times.


    Title: Air Fryer Sweet Potato Tots
    Categories: Five, Potatoes, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Easier just to buy a bag of sweet potato fries. That's what we do as I'm
    not especially fond of sweet potatoes. My mom's mom used to do the
    candied, with marshmallows every year for Thanksgiving and every year my parents made us take some. It was always the consistancy of baby food
    and overly sweet; to this day I don't know if any of my siblings can
    look at a sweet potato civilly. I can look at it, bake it, serve it, but
    not eat it.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 2 15:03:41 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I usually put left overs in glass now. Plastic is for the freezer, for
    the most part. Still have plastic marinader, salad spinner, a few boxes for cookie storage, etc.

    The plastic containers I save stuff in are purpose bought - not single
    use take-out stuff. I only have a couple Corningware covered casserole dishes I could use for stashing leftovers in the fridge.

    I've got some take out stuff that gets recycled into home use--for a bit
    as it's a convenient size. Had to take a meal to a couple in need of a
    few months ago; one of them worked well for a small meat loaf with
    carrots and potatoes on the side. The couple was able to toss it, not be concerned with getting a dish back to us.


    I do use some of his containers to parcel out chilli for others to
    take with. Or to take something with me to work. Where the container bravely jumps into the bin when it's empty. Bv)=

    We use them for give away also.


    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Sounds good. We got ours on sale; it had a (small) dent in it and
    Lowe's marked it down, also gave us the military discount.

    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.

    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    8----- ELIDED ----->8

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    That would be an interesting book to get hold of now.

    Check the Internet Archives. They may have something you can download.
    I'm a contributing ($$$) member.

    Something like that I'd rather have hard copy so I can curl up with it
    in my chair.


    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the
    stoneware crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    Grandmother was smart to take advantage of youn muscles. (G)


    Title: Virginia Chunk Sweet Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Pickles, Preserving
    Yield: 16 Pints

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Aug 4 06:17:31 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I've got a good number of them, mostly in paperback as they were accumulated while Steve was in the Army. Found Alaska on the free table
    at ReStore. Nook abridges them so I'm keeping my hard copy collection.

    So does Reader's Digress. AFAIK Kindle doesn't do that unless it tells
    you up front.

    Nook tells you in its store that it is abridges, saves me money. I need
    to transfer some of my other paperback to the Nook, clear off a shelf
    or 2. (G)

    It's nice that they warn you. I've aleady cleared (years ago) hard
    copies of books I feel were a "read once". Kindle has been on a tear
    recently trying to hustle audio books. AS if ........ I prefer jazz
    music for my listening. Although an audio book droning on and on will
    serve as a sleeping pill. Bv)=

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    Late edit - disregard that paragraph. I see feom the following post
    that your toaster over in a convection/air fryer already. Still good advice.

    True, Steve took a quick look at an air fryer at Costco yesterday, told him that we don't need it. Fine with him as he's used the toaster oven
    on convection various times.

    Title: Air Fryer Sweet Potato Tots
    Categories: Five, Potatoes, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Easier just to buy a bag of sweet potato fries. That's what we do as
    I'm not especially fond of sweet potatoes. My mom's mom used to do the candied, with marshmallows every year for Thanksgiving and every year
    my parents made us take some. It was always the consistancy of baby
    food and overly sweet; to this day I don't know if any of my siblings
    can look at a sweet potato civilly. I can look at it, bake it, serve
    it, but not eat it.

    I like sweet potatoes and I like Tater Tots. But I buy my Tots frozen,
    never made my own. And have yet to see sweet potato tots at the store.
    I do see, and buy on occasion, sweet potato chips. Plain or flavoured.

    If Yo' granny's candied sweet potatoes were the consistency of pap (baby
    food) she was over-cooking the dish. I've had it many Thanksgivings and
    it always was (to borrow a pasta term) al dente. And tooth achingly sweet.
    The marshmallows had much to do with that. But the sorghum/moasses did a
    lot to compound the felony. Bv)= Not one of my favourites - but do-able
    if there were nuts added.

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Candied Yams w/Pecans
    Categories: Potatoes, Nuts, Herbs, Candy
    Yield: 12 servings

    64 oz (2 cans) yams; drained
    1 1/2 c Chopped pecans
    1 c Butter
    1 c Honey (raw honey is best)
    1 c Light brown sugar (dark
    - brown sugar is too sweet)
    2 ts (to 3 ts) ground cinnamon
    1 ts Ground nutmeg
    1/2 Bag miniature marshmallows
    - (the large ones don't work
    - well)

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    Lightly grease a 9" X 13" X 2" baking dish (avoid a
    deep-dish baking pan); set aside

    In medium mixing bowl lightly mash yams - leave yams
    slightly lumpy. Fold in pecans; set aside.

    In small sauce pan, heat butter and honey, allow to
    simmer and melt. Add brown sugar, cinnamon and nutmeg,
    and stir until creamy; stir butter mixture into the yam
    mixture. Transfer seasoned yams to the greased baking
    dish.

    Cover dish, and bake for 30 minutes. Remove from oven.
    Uncover and sprinkle miniature marshmallows over yams.
    Bake uncovered for another 10 minutes or until
    marshmallows are lightly toasted.

    Vickie Parks, Renton, Washington

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Aug 4 07:28:49 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I usually put left overs in glass now. Plastic is for the freezer, for
    the most part. Still have plastic marinader, salad spinner, a few boxes for cookie storage, etc.

    The plastic containers I save stuff in are purpose bought - not single
    use take-out stuff. I only have a couple Corningware covered casserole dishes I could use for stashing leftovers in the fridge.

    I've got some take out stuff that gets recycled into home use--for a
    bit as it's a convenient size. Had to take a meal to a couple in need
    of a few months ago; one of them worked well for a small meat loaf with carrots and potatoes on the side. The couple was able to toss it, not
    be concerned with getting a dish back to us.

    I do use some of his containers to parcel out chilli for others to
    take with. Or to take something with me to work. Where the container bravely jumps into the bin when it's empty. Bv)=

    We use them for give away also.

    Great minds think alike. Bv)=

    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Sounds good. We got ours on sale; it had a (small) dent in it and
    Lowe's marked it down, also gave us the military discount.

    Just checked with B.B. yesterday and they had an "open box" going for
    U$360 delivered. It will be here Tuesday.

    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.

    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    8----- ELIDED ----->8

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    That would be an interesting book to get hold of now.

    Check the Internet Archives. They may have something you can download.
    I'm a contributing ($$$) member.

    Something like that I'd rather have hard copy so I can curl up with it
    in my chair.

    I'll bet you'd like this one: "THE UNITED STATES REGIONAL COOK BOOK (10
    Cook Books in 1: New England, Southern, Pennsylvania Dutch, Creole,
    Michigan Dutch, Mississippi Valley, Wisconsin Dutch, Minnesota
    Scandinavian, Southwestern, Western, plus Cosmopolitan America)
    Hardcover – January 1, 1947"

    https://www.amazon.com/UNITED-STATES-REGIONAL-COOK-Books/dp/B000BRPEOO

    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the
    stoneware crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    Grandmother was smart to take advantage of youn muscles. (G)

    We all had our "chores". If you don't work then you don't eat. Or so
    they threatened. I never tested that, though.

    Title: Virginia Chunk Sweet Pickles

    ... Growing old is mandatory... growing up is optional.

    On of my mantras. Bv)=

    I was looking for a "Joy of Cooking" recipe in my Meal Monster and this
    popp[ed up. Since I know you are also a fan of Jeopardy ...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Jeopardy! Borscht
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Soups
    Yield: 8 Servings

    4 lg Beets; peeled, chopped
    4 lg Carrots; peeled, chopped
    1 lg Yellow onion; peeled,
    - chopped
    1 Beef soup bone
    10 c Beef stock
    1 lg White potato; peeled,
    - chopped (opt)

    Last year our terrific pal Tommy (who was such a delight
    to hang out with this Christmas, btw) brought his nice
    friend Ethan over for dinner and Catchphrase; we ate
    this soup and Ethan went on to be a guest on Jeopardy!.

    Peel and chop beets, carrots and onion; simmer in a rich
    beef stock. Also throw in the pot some type of flavorful
    soup-bone if you want. A cross-cut bone-in beef shank
    slice would be ideal, but one time I used pigs feet,
    which is completely non-traditional but lends a nice
    thick heartiness to the soup which otherwise is thinner
    and brothy.

    One thing to do alternatively is start the soup by
    sauteeing the chopped onion in the pot until it is
    transparent, then add half or more of the broth and
    the bone and simmer for awhile, THEN add the beets and,
    about twenty minutes later, the carrots.

    The beets will take at least a half an hour or so to
    become tender, so allow time for them to get mostly
    there before you add the carrots (and a potato if you
    want to), then let it go another 5 minutes or so and
    add 1-2 cups of chopped cabbage. Let all the veggies
    cook until tender.

    Periodically scrape off gross scum that collects on the
    surface of the soup from having the bone in there (you
    should start this early, but only have to do it a couple
    of times).

    Add: salt and pepper to taste; red-wine or another
    vinegar to taste which I recommend as 3 tablespoons
    or more depending how tangy you like it and I like it
    quite tangy (but remember, you can always add more later,
    or people can add splashes to individual servings, too).
    Now is also the time to add fresh dill if you like fresh
    dill. Russians like a lot of fresh dill on everything
    and keep a large bunch of it in foil in the the freezer
    for such occasions.

    Serve hot with big dollops of sour cream or cold with
    big dollops of yogurt and garnish with dill! Or mix and
    match!

    Or compare to a real recipe from an online resource!
    Makes good eatin'! Take out the bone before serving!
    Nice with pancakes, black bread or piroshki! Okay let
    me know how it goes!

    P.S. A few more things I would like to say about this
    soup before you ream me about it:

    1a. There are MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF BORSCH.

    1b. From what I understand traditional Russian borshch
    is spelled with no "t" and is really more like meat soup
    that happens to have a few beets thrown in. Some recipes
    call for mushrooms, garlic, navy beans and many other
    ingredients not included in Jeopardy! Borscht.

    2. This "recipe" has its roots in The Joy of Cooking,
    I didn't just totally make it up.

    3. I believe the spelling with a "t" comes from Germany,
    or from second-generation German-Americans who passed
    recipes to Irma Rombauer early last century. Please
    comment if you happen to know about the etymology of
    "borscht."

    4. PLEASE comment if this soup gets you on Jeopardy!.

    Thanks.

    From: http://lucysspleen.blogs.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Aug 3 19:28:07 2024
    Hi Dave,

    There's a Roy Rogers in Winchester, VA. We stopped there last November
    on our way up north and yes, we got (good) roast beef sandwiches. Might make it a more often stop.

    The chain started in Ft. Wayne, IN as an outgrowth of Azar's Big Boy.
    The Roy Rogers chain was sold in 1990 to Imasco, then the parent
    company of Hardee's, and experienced severe decline as many
    locations DD> converted to Hardee's. In 2002, the trademark was
    purchased by DD> Plamondon Companies.

    So they've been around a while, not as long as McD's. Found out Zaxbys
    (another southern chain) was founded in the 90s, still a youngster
    compared to some.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the
    camper RH> we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are
    similr, but, RH> as you say, slight differences. I can't recall
    specific ones tho.

    The one thing that Carl's Jr. brought to Hardee's that I think is a
    plus is the "Frisco" burger - a 1/3-pound charbroiled Black Angus
    beef patty covered in Swiss cheese, mayo, tomatoes, and bacon
    sandwiched between toasted sourdough.

    And now they have a BLT version which adds lettuce and more tomato and bacon. Right now they're offering 50% off in their app so I've had a
    few of those. By itself it's a meal.

    I've seen it advertised on tv, both a chicken version and a beef
    version. I think I'd go for the chicken, but take the chicken out and
    have it on the side. We don't have the app so would pay full price if
    we went for it. Today's lunch was splitting a chicken bake at Costco; I had an appointment down in Raleigh, ran some other errands (including Costco) before going to the dr. Not the greatest but it beats a burger
    or their pizza.

    Do the Hardee's in your area do coupons? I get a monthly mailing from
    some marketing outfit. Yesterday's haul had coupons for Popeyes,
    Subway, Burger King, Hardee's and Little Caesar's (who have improved
    their pizza greatly). Once in a while there is even a McD's sheet of coupons.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.


    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Fodder for the recycle bag.

    8<----- SNIP----->8


    We put probably 100,000+ miles on the Frontier, know we did 135,00+/-
    with the Honda in late 70s to early 80s.

    I had an '87 Honda Accord I'd likely still be driving had that tool
    truck (Mac Tools dealer) not blown a stop sign just as I was entering
    the intersection. 30 mph to zero in a jiffy. And a dandy cut on my forehead. I did have my seatbelt on which no doubt saved more hurts.
    At the time it was wrecked it had over 200,000 miles on it.

    My current ride, Bruno the Beemer has been to the moon and is on his
    way home - 250,000 miles and still going strong.

    We're still working on the frist hunderd thousand on the F-150, bought
    it with about 58,000 on and I think we're somewhere in the 80s now. Got
    the truck end of February/beginning of March last year.


    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

    Since your Dad was in Unc's Yacht Club he probably put the kibosh on
    that.

    Most likely so. (G) First time I had it was in college, made with
    ground beef and served on a gritty roll. At the time, the school
    newspaper printed menus for the week ahead; they called it S.O.S. to nobody's (that I was aware of) objection. When the school opened up
    their new campus center with a cafeteria (instead of the under the
    dorms family style meals), they stopped printing the menus.

    Well, yeah. But a list of available choices would have been nice. I'm
    not, and never have been a fan of cafeteria-style eating. If I'm doing "pick it yourself" pre-made dishes give me the wretched excess of a
    good ol' buffet.

    It was (at that time) basically offer of 2 entrees, about 4 sides, a
    couple of desserts. Lunch time always had a tossed salad available also.
    Now there's all kinds of choices, traditional, vegan and so on, with a
    proper salad bar. (We stopped there in May, on our way to Ohio from
    visiting family in the Rochester, NY area & had lunch there.)


    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Mon Aug 5 06:21:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    In a message to Ruth Haffly you wrote:

    It's nice that they warn you. I've aleady cleared (years ago) hard
    copies of books I feel were a "read once". Kindle has been on a tear

    Just donated all of my "dead tree" editions. Been storing them for years
    and well if I forgot I read it I'll enjoy it again on the kndle. ;)

    recently trying to hustle audio books. AS if ........ I prefer jazz
    music for my listening. Although an audio book droning on and on will serve as a sleeping pill. Bv)=

    I really dislike the kindle interface now. Why won't books I've read piss off? now they always exist in the library and it's anoying. (to me)

    I like sweet potatoes and I like Tater Tots. But I buy my Tots
    frozen, never made my own. And have yet to see sweet potato tots at

    I made them twice I think. Since they dont' make a gluten free version frozen, when Vincent was younger and even more picky, and Andrea was wanting a
    tot. It's one of those things, the frozen chemical filled ones are just better. ;)

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.

    Sweet taters for us are simple. Bake them until tender. Split and add butter and salt. Enjoy.

    Shawn


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Aug 5 05:54:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    There's a Roy Rogers in Winchester, VA. We stopped there last November
    on our way up north and yes, we got (good) roast beef sandwiches. Might make it a more often stop.

    The chain started in Ft. Wayne, IN as an outgrowth of Azar's Big Boy.
    The Roy Rogers chain was sold in 1990 to Imasco, then the parent
    company of Hardee's, and experienced severe decline as many
    locations converted to Hardee's. In 2002, the trademark was
    purchased by Plamondon Companies.

    So they've been around a while, not as long as McD's. Found out Zaxbys (another southern chain) was founded in the 90s, still a youngster compared to some.

    Hardee's came to my town when they bought the Sandy's chain of fats food joints. They were almost as old (1956) as McD's - but, obviously, not as durable.

    It has been a while since we've been in a Carl's Jr; having the
    camper we now usually fix our own lunches. IIRC, the menua are
    similr, but, as you say, slight differences. I can't recall
    specific ones tho.

    The one thing that Carl's Jr. brought to Hardee's that I think is a
    plus is the "Frisco" burger - a 1/3-pound charbroiled Black Angus
    beef patty covered in Swiss cheese, mayo, tomatoes, and bacon
    sandwiched between toasted sourdough.

    And now they have a BLT version which adds lettuce and more tomato and bacon. Right now they're offering 50% off in their app so I've had a
    few of those. By itself it's a meal.

    I've seen it advertised on tv, both a chicken version and a beef
    version. I think I'd go for the chicken, but take the chicken out and
    have it on the side. We don't have the app so would pay full price if
    we went for it. Today's lunch was splitting a chicken bake at Costco; I had an appointment down in Raleigh, ran some other errands (including Costco) before going to the dr. Not the greatest but it beats a burger
    or their pizza.

    I've got apps for Hardee's, Wendy's, Popeyes, Arby's, Domino's Pizza and
    Jimmy John's (subs). They are a convenience for me. Not to mention there
    are a lot of "app/on-line only" specials I take adbvantage.

    Popeyes just wound up a "Buy 6 wings ($5.99) and get another 6 for $1."
    That was supper last night for both me and Dennis - and the mutts loved
    the bones.

    Used to have McD's app but Itook it off because they got overly picky on
    usage and flooded my e-mail with (not so) "specials".

    Do the Hardee's in your area do coupons? I get a monthly mailing from
    some marketing outfit. Yesterday's haul had coupons for Popeyes,
    Subway, Burger King, Hardee's and Little Caesar's (who have improved
    their pizza greatly). Once in a while there is even a McD's sheet of coupons.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Fodder for the recycle bag.

    True dat.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    We put probably 100,000+ miles on the Frontier, know we did 135,00+/-
    with the Honda in late 70s to early 80s.

    I had an '87 Honda Accord I'd likely still be driving had that tool
    truck (Mac Tools dealer) not blown a stop sign just as I was entering
    the intersection. 30 mph to zero in a jiffy. And a dandy cut on my forehead. I did have my seatbelt on which no doubt saved more hurts.
    At the time it was wrecked it had over 200,000 miles on it.

    My current ride, Bruno the Beemer has been to the moon and is on his
    way home - 250,000 miles and still going strong.

    We're still working on the frist hunderd thousand on the F-150, bought
    it with about 58,000 on and I think we're somewhere in the 80s now. Got the truck end of February/beginning of March last year.

    I don't flit about the country as much as I used to. Last non-local (over
    100 miles) trip I did was the last picnic at Dale & Gail's.

    Mom did other things to stretch the budget but never S.O.S.

    Since your Dad was in Unc's Yacht Club he probably put the kibosh on
    that.

    Most likely so. (G) First time I had it was in college, made with
    ground beef and served on a gritty roll. At the time, the school
    newspaper printed menus for the week ahead; they called it S.O.S. to nobody's (that I was aware of) objection. When the school opened up
    their new campus center with a cafeteria (instead of the under the
    dorms family style meals), they stopped printing the menus.

    Well, yeah. But a list of available choices would have been nice. I'm
    not, and never have been a fan of cafeteria-style eating. If I'm doing "pick it yourself" pre-made dishes give me the wretched excess of a
    good ol' buffet.

    It was (at that time) basically offer of 2 entrees, about 4 sides, a couple of desserts. Lunch time always had a tossed salad available
    also. Now there's all kinds of choices, traditional, vegan and so on,
    with a proper salad bar. (We stopped there in May, on our way to Ohio
    from visiting family in the Rochester, NY area & had lunch there.)

    Was this at your college? Most campus dining halls don't do "walk-ins".
    Unless it's run as a concession by an outside party.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Buffet Green Beans
    Categories: Five, Beans, Citrus, Mushrooms, Grains
    Yield: 30 servings

    5 lb Cleaned, whole green beans
    1/4 c Fresh squeezed lemon juice
    1 lb Sliced fresh mushrooms
    1/4 lb Butter
    1/4 c Toasted sesame seeds
    Salt & pepper

    In a large frying pan or wok, heat HALF of the butter,
    adding the mushrooms as the butter melts over medium
    high heat.

    As the mushrooms start to brown, place the green beans
    directly over the mushrooms and cook for one minute.

    Stir the vegetables, combining well and let steam for
    one minute.

    Add the lemon juice and stir well and cook for 2
    minutes, letting the vegetables steam.

    Stir again and when the green beans are a deep green
    color, add the rest of the butter and sprinkle with the
    sesame seeds.

    Quckly stir together and remove from heat.

    Sprinkle with salt and pepper to your taste. Your green
    beans should be crisp at this point.

    Place it all in a serving vessel and serve hot.

    By: Annie Aime, Los Angeles , California

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.grouprecipes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Aug 4 19:50:01 2024
    Hi Dave,


    Nook tells you in its store that it is abridges, saves me money. I need
    to transfer some of my other paperback to the Nook, clear off a shelf
    or 2. (G)

    It's nice that they warn you. I've aleady cleared (years ago) hard
    copies of books I feel were a "read once". Kindle has been on a tear recently trying to hustle audio books. AS if ........ I prefer jazz
    music for my listening. Although an audio book droning on and on will serve as a sleeping pill. Bv)=

    I prefer non audio books also. Steve and I usually don't have the same
    reading preferences so I'd not want him to have to listen to what I
    like. It would also interfere with his radio-ing. I know, ear plugs but
    I also don't want to just sit, listening to a book. If I were doing
    other things, then I wouldn't be able to concentrate on the book.

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8


    Easier just to buy a bag of sweet potato fries. That's what we do as
    I'm not especially fond of sweet potatoes. My mom's mom used to do the candied, with marshmallows every year for Thanksgiving and every year
    my parents made us take some. It was always the consistancy of baby
    food and overly sweet; to this day I don't know if any of my siblings
    can look at a sweet potato civilly. I can look at it, bake it, serve
    it, but not eat it.

    I like sweet potatoes and I like Tater Tots. But I buy my Tots frozen, never made my own. And have yet to see sweet potato tots at the store.
    I do see, and buy on occasion, sweet potato chips. Plain or flavoured.

    I'll eat the Terro veggie chips that have sweet potato as one of several veggies but not regular sweet potato chips, fries, potatoes or what have
    you.

    If Yo' granny's candied sweet potatoes were the consistency of pap
    (baby food) she was over-cooking the dish. I've had it many DD>
    Thanksgivings and it always was (to borrow a pasta term) al dente. And
    tooth achingly sweet. The marshmallows had much to do with that.
    But DD> the sorghum/moasses did a lot to compound the felony. Bv)=
    Not one DD> of my favourites - but do-able if there were nuts added.

    I don't know if she started with raw or canned potatoes, just knew I
    didn't like them. Us kids used to call them "baby food" as they were
    about the conistancy of, maybe strained, baby food.

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.


    Title: Candied Yams w/Pecans
    Categories: Potatoes, Nuts, Herbs, Candy
    Yield: 12 servings

    You're more than welcome to my share of it. (G)

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Aug 4 20:10:10 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I've got some take out stuff that gets recycled into home use--for a
    bit as it's a convenient size. Had to take a meal to a couple in need
    of a few months ago; one of them worked well for a small meat loaf with carrots and potatoes on the side. The couple was able to toss it, not
    be concerned with getting a dish back to us.

    I do use some of his containers to parcel out chilli for others to
    take with. Or to take something with me to work. Where the container bravely jumps into the bin when it's empty. Bv)=

    We use them for give away also.

    Great minds think alike. Bv)=

    I'm shopping for a self-defrosting upright freezer. And checking my budget. Bv)= Best Buy has a nice 13 cu ft for about $450. Time to
    get out the tape measure and do some measuring. Bv)=

    Sounds good. We got ours on sale; it had a (small) dent in it and
    Lowe's marked it down, also gave us the military discount.

    Just checked with B.B. yesterday and they had an "open box" going for U$360 delivered. It will be here Tuesday.

    Sounds like a winner to me. Just make sure there's nothing holding the
    door even slightly open. A melt down is no fun to deal with. (G)


    Here's another pickle recipe. This one shows the mustard seed rather
    than hiding it in the spice mix.

    Title: Senfgurken - Ripe Cucumber Pickles
    Categories: Squash, Herbs, Preserving
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    8----- ELIDED ----->8

    From the Pennsylvania Dutch chapter of the United States
    Regional Cookbook, Culinary Arts Institute of Chicago,
    1947. By Molly Paul

    That would be an interesting book to get hold of now.

    Check the Internet Archives. They may have something you can download.
    I'm a contributing ($$$) member.

    Something like that I'd rather have hard copy so I can curl up with it
    in my chair.

    I'll bet you'd like this one: "THE UNITED STATES REGIONAL COOK BOOK
    (10 Cook Books in 1: New England, Southern, Pennsylvania Dutch,
    Creole,
    Michigan Dutch, Mississippi Valley, Wisconsin Dutch, Minnesota Scandinavian, Southwestern, Western, plus Cosmopolitan America)
    Hardcover – January 1, 1947"

    https://www.amazon.com/UNITED-STATES-REGIONAL-COOK-Books/dp/B000BRPEOO

    That sounds good but Steve would probably make me get rid of some other
    cook books if I went out and bought the set. I do need to sort thru
    them, once I can easily access them.


    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the
    stoneware crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    Grandmother was smart to take advantage of youn muscles. (G)

    We all had our "chores". If you don't work then you don't eat. Or so
    they threatened. I never tested that, though.

    Not worth testing.

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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Shawn Highfield on Tue Aug 6 06:05:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    It's nice that they warn you. I've aleady cleared (years ago) hard
    copies of books I feel were a "read once". Kindle has been on a tear

    Just donated all of my "dead tree" editions. Been storing them for
    years and well if I forgot I read it I'll enjoy it again on the kndle.
    ;)

    recently trying to hustle audio books. AS if ........ I prefer jazz
    music for my listening. Although an audio book droning on and on will serve as a sleeping pill. Bv)=

    I really dislike the kindle interface now. Why won't books I've read
    piss off? now they always exist in the library and it's anoying. (to
    me)

    I get them off my Kindle when I'm finished reading. I just tap "remove download" on the home page menu. It's still listed on the Amazon website
    on the Digital Content page. I have (currently 25 pages of books) The
    books I've read ae noted as "READ". And if I'm offered a book that looks interesting and I click on it to get it it's obvious if I already have
    that title.

    I like sweet potatoes and I like Tater Tots. But I buy my Tots
    frozen, never made my own. And have yet to see sweet potato tots at

    I made them twice I think. Since they dont' make a gluten free version frozen, when Vincent was younger and even more picky, and Andrea was wanting a tot. It's one of those things, the frozen chemical filled
    ones are just better. ;)

    And lots easier. My favourite breakfast 'taters are the little square
    cubes - sometimes called cottage fries or hash browns (not the shredded
    ones) with a garlic-butter sauce lightly applied.

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.

    Sweet taters for us are simple. Bake them until tender. Split and add butter and salt. Enjoy.

    Ever do them in th \e microwave?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Garlic Butter Sauce
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 12 Servings

    4 tb Chopped garlic
    Garlic granules; optional *
    14 oz Can chicken broth
    1/2 lb Butter; cold, diced
    +=OR=+
    1 c Butter flavoured oil
    4 tb Flat leaf parsley; chopped
    - very small

    * if the sauce is not "garlicky" enough for your
    taster add some garlic granules until the desired
    degree of pungency is reached. -- UDD

    In a small saucepan, over medium heat, combine the
    garlic and broth.

    Bring to a boil and reduce by half.

    Whisk in the butter, 1 cube at a time, until all of the
    butter is incorporated and the sauce coats the back of
    a spoon.

    Add the parsley and mix well.

    Really great on breakfast hash browns or cottage
    fries. Makes a very good diping sauce for shrimp,
    scallops, lobster, etc. Also great for popping
    popcorn. - UDD

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.food.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Aug 6 06:08:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I prefer non audio books also. Steve and I usually don't have the same reading preferences so I'd not want him to have to listen to what I
    like. It would also interfere with his radio-ing. I know, ear plugs but
    I also don't want to just sit, listening to a book. If I were doing
    other things, then I wouldn't be able to concentrate on the book.

    BINGO!

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    I like sweet potatoes and I like Tater Tots. But I buy my Tots frozen, never made my own. And have yet to see sweet potato tots at the store.
    I do see, and buy on occasion, sweet potato chips. Plain or flavoured.

    I'll eat the Terro veggie chips that have sweet potato as one of
    several veggies but not regular sweet potato chips, fries, potatoes or what have you.

    If Yo' granny's candied sweet potatoes were the consistency of pap
    (baby food) she was over-cooking the dish. I've had it many
    Thanksgivings and it always was (to borrow a pasta term) al dente. And tooth achingly sweet. The marshmallows had much to do with that.
    But the sorghum/moasses did a lot to compound the felony. Bv)=
    Not one of my favourites - but do-able if there were nuts added.

    I don't know if she started with raw or canned potatoes, just knew I didn't like them. Us kids used to call them "baby food" as they were
    about the conistancy of, maybe strained, baby food.

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.

    Title: Candied Yams w/Pecans
    Categories: Potatoes, Nuts, Herbs, Candy
    Yield: 12 servings

    You're more than welcome to my share of it. (G)

    Once upon a - the family drove to the south end of the staee to visit
    my Mom's aunts and uncles and cousins. Before we arrived she turned to
    the back seat and gtitted out "I don't care what they have for dinner
    you take some. And eat it. And not complpain."

    One of the dishes on offer was cooked turnips - which mother abhorred.
    So, throughout the meal one or the other of we three kids would ask,
    "why don't you have some more of these delicious turnips, Mom?"

    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Ellen's Easy Boiled Turnips
    Categories: Five, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 servings

    4 md Turnips
    1 ts Salt
    pn Pepper
    1 tb Butter
    Water

    Peel and slice the turnips. Place them into a large
    saucepan and half-fill with water; add salt.

    On medium-high heat, bring turnips to a boil. Lower
    heat, cover, and simmer about 30 minutes or until
    tender. Drain into a colander and place back in
    saucepan.

    Partially mash with potato masher, adding butter as you
    mash. Turnips will be lumpy but slightly mashed. Add
    salt and pepper as desired.

    May add toppings of your choice, such as bacon bits,
    garlic, or shredded cheese

    By: Ellen Gwaltney Bales, Indianapolis, Indiana

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.justapinch.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Aug 6 06:11:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I'll bet you'd like this one: "THE UNITED STATES REGIONAL COOK BOOK
    (10 Cook Books in 1: New England, Southern, Pennsylvania Dutch,
    Creole, Michigan Dutch, Mississippi Valley, Wisconsin Dutch, Minnesota Scandinavian, Southwestern, Western, plus Cosmopolitan America)
    Hardcover - January 1, 1947"

    https://www.amazon.com/UNITED-STATES-REGIONAL-COOK-Books/dp/B000BRPEOO

    That sounds good but Steve would probably make me get rid of some other cook books if I went out and bought the set. I do need to sort thru
    them, once I can easily access them.

    It's an anthology in one volume. As it says 10Coo Books in 1.

    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the
    stoneware crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    Grandmother was smart to take advantage of youn muscles. (G)

    We all had our "chores". If you don't work then you don't eat. Or
    so they threatened. I never tested that, though.

    Not worth testing.

    I do likes me food. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sausage, Egg & Cheddar Farmers Breakfast
    Categories: Pork, Potatoes, Vegetables, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    6 lg Eggs
    1/3 c Milk
    1/2 ts Dried parsley flakes
    1/4 ts Salt
    6 oz Pork sausage
    1 tb Butter
    1 1/2 c Diced hash brown potatoes;
    - thawed
    1/4 c Chopped onion
    1 c Shredded Cheddar cheese

    MMMMM--------------------------OPTIONAL-------------------------------
    Cooked, crumbled bacon
    Minced chives
    Halved cherry tomatoes

    Whisk eggs, milk, parsley and salt; set aside. In a
    9-in. cast-iron or other heavy skillet, cook sausage
    over medium heat until no longer pink; remove and drain.
    In same skillet, heat butter over medium heat. Add
    potatoes and onion; cook and stir until tender, 5-7
    minutes. Return sausage to pan.

    Add the egg mixture; cook and stir until almost set.
    Sprinkle with cheese. Cover and cook for 1-2 minutes
    until the cheese is melted. If desired, top with bacon,
    chives and cherry tomatoes.

    Bonnie Roberts, Newaygo, Michigan

    Makes: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Aug 5 13:28:37 2024
    Hi Dave,

    The chain started in Ft. Wayne, IN as an outgrowth of Azar's Big Boy.
    The Roy Rogers chain was sold in 1990 to Imasco, then the parent
    company of Hardee's, and experienced severe decline as many
    locations converted to Hardee's. In 2002, the trademark was
    purchased by Plamondon Companies.

    So they've been around a while, not as long as McD's. Found out Zaxbys (another southern chain) was founded in the 90s, still a youngster compared to some.

    Hardee's came to my town when they bought the Sandy's chain of fats
    food joints. They were almost as old (1956) as McD's - but, obviously,
    not as durable.

    McD's had better PR folks. (G) Seriously, it was probably the Golden
    Arches and the fact you could get the same cheap meal at whatever
    franchise you went to, whether it be in Peoria, IL or Peoria, AZ.


    I've got apps for Hardee's, Wendy's, Popeyes, Arby's, Domino's Pizza
    and Jimmy John's (subs). They are a convenience for me. Not to mention there are a lot of "app/on-line only" specials I take adbvantage.

    We've got no apps for any of the above and will keep it that way. Of
    your listing, we go to Arby's and Popeyes, but neither one one of them
    that often.

    Popeyes just wound up a "Buy 6 wings ($5.99) and get another 6 for
    $1." That was supper last night for both me and Dennis - and the mutts loved the bones.

    We went to Alpaca's (Peruvian chicken) yesterday after church, split a
    half chicken and several sides. Brought some chicken home that we had
    for supper.


    Used to have McD's app but Itook it off because they got overly picky
    on usage and flooded my e-mail with (not so) "specials".

    Do the Hardee's in your area do coupons? I get a monthly mailing from
    some marketing outfit. Yesterday's haul had coupons for Popeyes,
    Subway, Burger King, Hardee's and Little Caesar's (who have improved
    their pizza greatly). Once in a while there is even a McD's sheet of coupons.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Fodder for the recycle bag.

    True dat.

    Our recycle can is usually fuller than the regular trash can.

    8<----- SNIP----->8


    We're still working on the frist hundred thousand on the F-150,
    bought RH> it with about 58,000 on and I think we're somewhere in the
    80s now. Got RH> the truck end of February/beginning of March last
    year.

    I don't flit about the country as much as I used to. Last non-local
    (over 100 miles) trip I did was the last picnic at Dale & Gail's.

    Considering our daughters and grandkids are in AZ and UT, it's easy to
    put on the miles going to visit them. We're seeing some of the National
    Parks in the southern UT region as we travel between our daughters.


    It was (at that time) basically offer of 2 entrees, about 4 sides, a couple of desserts. Lunch time always had a tossed salad available
    also. Now there's all kinds of choices, traditional, vegan and so on,
    with a proper salad bar. (We stopped there in May, on our way to Ohio
    from visiting family in the Rochester, NY area & had lunch there.)

    Was this at your college? Most campus dining halls don't do
    "walk-ins". Unless it's run as a concession by an outside party.

    It is run by an outside company with supplimental student staff. We were
    there over graduation week end/class of '74 reunion but we've been able
    to have a meal there other times.

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Aug 7 06:12:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hardee's came to my town when they bought the Sandy's chain of fats
    food joints. They were almost as old (1956) as McD's - but, obviously,
    not as durable.

    McD's had better PR folks. (G) Seriously, it was probably the Golden Arches and the fact you could get the same cheap meal at whatever franchise you went to, whether it be in Peoria, IL or Peoria, AZ.

    Sandy's didn't have Ronald McDonald or the Hamburglar. Just a figure in
    a kilt w/bagpipes. And nothing remotely Scottish on the menu.

    I've got apps for Hardee's, Wendy's, Popeyes, Arby's, Domino's Pizza
    and Jimmy John's (subs). They are a convenience for me. Not to mention there are a lot of "app/on-line only" specials I take adbvantage.

    We've got no apps for any of the above and will keep it that way. Of
    your listing, we go to Arby's and Popeyes, but neither one one of them that often.

    As I said, they're a convenience. I can order while at work and pick-up
    on my way home ... or order from home and then do the quick trip. That
    works especially well with Popeyes on Tuesdays when the drive thru lines
    a "around the block" long due to the "Tuesday" special. I order from my confuser, drive to my nearby Popeyes and park right by the door, nip
    inside and go to the Door Dash station. I tell the clerk who I am, pick
    up my food and beat feet for the house.

    Popeyes just wound up a "Buy 6 wings ($5.99) and get another 6 for
    $1." That was supper last night for both me and Dennis - and the
    mutts loved the bones.

    We went to Alpaca's (Peruvian chicken) yesterday after church, split a half chicken and several sides. Brought some chicken home that we had
    for supper.

    Never had Peruvian chicken. What is the distinguishing characteristic
    that makes it "special"?

    Used to have McD's app but Itook it off because they got overly picky
    on usage and flooded my e-mail with (not so) "specials".

    Do the Hardee's in your area do coupons? I get a monthly mailing from
    some marketing outfit. Yesterday's haul had coupons for Popeyes,
    Subway, Burger King, Hardee's and Little Caesar's (who have improved
    their pizza greatly). Once in a while there is even a McD's sheet of coupons.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.

    I give the Subway sheet to Dennis as he prefers them over Jimmy John's.
    The BK goes into the clipper pile. Every couple of months I go through
    the pile and send the expired sheets to the newspaper pile for another
    trip through the system.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Fodder for the recycle bag.

    True dat.

    Our recycle can is usually fuller than the regular trash can.

    Sprig-a-leak's recycle program uses blue totes and the disposal company
    that has the contract with the city runs "sorter" trucks that pick up
    the contents of those totes. And they maintain a recycling centre for
    aluminum cans, etc. where the pay $$$ for your old cans. Sadly, neither
    takes plastic grocery sacks. You have to haul those back to one of the
    grocers who do recycle them.

    Hy-Vee is the only one of my local stupormarkups that offer paper or
    plastic at their check-outs.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    It was (at that time) basically offer of 2 entrees, about 4 sides, a couple of desserts. Lunch time always had a tossed salad available
    also. Now there's all kinds of choices, traditional, vegan and so on,
    with a proper salad bar. (We stopped there in May, on our way to Ohio
    from visiting family in the Rochester, NY area & had lunch there.)

    Was this at your college? Most campus dining halls don't do
    "walk-ins". Unless it's run as a concession by an outside party.

    It is run by an outside company with supplimental student staff. We
    were there over graduation week end/class of '74 reunion but we've
    been able to have a meal there other times.

    So, it was/is a concession. Graduation time is pretty crazy at most of
    the colleges/universities I've been around.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Food Service Chocolate Chunk Cookies
    Categories: Cookies, Snacks, Desserts, Nuts, Chocolate
    Yield: 4 Dozen

    1 c Granulated sugar
    2/3 c Packed brown sugar
    2/3 c Margarine
    2/3 c Butter
    3 lg Eggs
    2 ts Vanilla
    3 1/2 c (to 4 c) All-purpose flour
    1 1/2 ts Baking soda
    6 oz Pecan pieces
    18 oz Semi-sweet chocolate; in
    -chunks

    Recipe by: St. Louis Post-Dispatch 5/27/96

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC. Beat together sugar, brown
    sugar, margarine and butter until fluffy. Slowly beat in
    eggs and vanilla. Sift together flour and baking soda and
    mix in. Mix in pecans and chocolate until just blended.

    Scoop out roughly 3 tablespoons cookie dough and form into a
    ball (or use an ice cream scooper). Drop on cookie sheet and
    press down a little. Bake for 15 to 17 minutes.

    The food service department at the University of Colorado
    at Boulder.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Aug 6 13:47:20 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I don't know if she started with raw or canned potatoes, just knew I didn't like them. Us kids used to call them "baby food" as they were
    about the conistancy of, maybe strained, baby food.

    If I ever make this I'll likely add some chile to offset the sweet.
    But it does look good for a holiday gathering.

    Title: Candied Yams w/Pecans
    Categories: Potatoes, Nuts, Herbs, Candy
    Yield: 12 servings

    You're more than welcome to my share of it. (G)

    Once upon a - the family drove to the south end of the staee to visit
    my Mom's aunts and uncles and cousins. Before we arrived she turned to
    the back seat and gtitted out "I don't care what they have for dinner
    you take some. And eat it. And not complpain."

    One of the dishes on offer was cooked turnips - which mother abhorred.
    So, throughout the meal one or the other of we three kids would ask,
    "why don't you have some more of these delicious turnips, Mom?"

    We didn't complain to my parents, just among us kids. But when we got
    older and able to dish up our own plates, only a small dab of sweet
    potatoes were on them. She also boiled turnips; I disliked them but
    not as much as I disliked sweet potatoes. I'll eat turnips now;
    somewhere in my collection of recipies is one for Pot Au Feu, or as
    Steve calls it, fancy French beef stew. It calls for turnips, not in any
    great quantity. Extra turnips usually go into a mixed veggie beef (or
    chicken) soup or stew.

    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    Did he like them?

    ---
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Aug 6 14:03:00 2024
    Hi Dave,


    I'll bet you'd like this one: "THE UNITED STATES REGIONAL COOK BOOK
    (10 Cook Books in 1: New England, Southern, Pennsylvania Dutch,
    Creole, Michigan Dutch, Mississippi Valley, Wisconsin Dutch, Minnesota Scandinavian, Southwestern, Western, plus Cosmopolitan America)
    Hardcover - January 1, 1947"

    https://www.amazon.com/UNITED-STATES-REGIONAL-COOK-Books/dp/B000BRPEOO

    That sounds good but Steve would probably make me get rid of some other cook books if I went out and bought the set. I do need to sort thru
    them, once I can easily access them.

    It's an anthology in one volume. As it says 10Coo Books in 1.

    OK, might be something I could get without too much trouble. (G)


    My grandmother made a lot of these - my job was to horse the
    stoneware crock over to the floor drain and discard the previous day's brine. Then wrestle to crock back into it's home.

    Grandmother was smart to take advantage of youn muscles. (G)

    We all had our "chores". If you don't work then you don't eat. Or
    so they threatened. I never tested that, though.

    Not worth testing.

    I do likes me food. Bv)=

    BTW, we're just starting to get rain from the latest tropical storm.
    It's supposed to pass over just to the west of us, giving us rain from
    now until Saturday. If power is down, I'll be off line.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Aug 7 16:09:16 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ruth Haffly to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 02 2024 02:43 pm


    I'm not fond of sweet potatoes either. I've been somewhat set on never making them. Too sweet by far for me.

    How's your breadmaking going these days? I've gotten better and better at it.

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Wed Aug 7 19:38:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Wed, 06 Aug 24>, you wrote me:

    I get them off my Kindle when I'm finished reading. I just tap
    "remove download" on the home page menu. It's still listed on the

    Okay I'll try that. I've just not been happy with the interface of the kindle, but
    I like everything else about it.

    And lots easier. My favourite breakfast 'taters are the little square cubes - sometimes called cottage fries or hash browns (not the
    shredded ones) with a garlic-butter sauce lightly applied.

    They are called "Home Fries" here. :)

    Sweet taters for us are simple. Bake them until tender. Split
    Ever do them in th \e microwave?

    Honestly no... I use the microwave very little, other then warming things
    up. Frozen meals at work that kinda stuff, the rest of the time I just prefer to use other methods of cooking.

    Shawn


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Wed Aug 7 19:46:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    In a message to Ruth Haffly you wrote:

    would ask, "why don't you have some more of these delicious turnips, Mom?"
    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    LOL! SOmething like this happened when I was a child but it was the other
    way around. My father hates all pasta except for garfields favorite. He yelled
    at us the entire drive there we were to be polite and eat everything.

    Mom kept goading him about the pasta salad. Made him eat some while
    Mom and us kids laughed ourselves stupid.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Aug 8 04:37:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    One of the dishes on offer was cooked turnips - which mother abhorred.
    So, throughout the meal one or the other of we three kids would ask,
    "why don't you have some more of these delicious turnips, Mom?"

    We didn't complain to my parents, just among us kids. But when we got older and able to dish up our own plates, only a small dab of sweet potatoes were on them. She also boiled turnips; I disliked them but
    not as much as I disliked sweet potatoes. I'll eat turnips now;
    somewhere in my collection of recipies is one for Pot Au Feu, or as
    Steve calls it, fancy French beef stew. It calls for turnips, not in
    any great quantity. Extra turnips usually go into a mixed veggie beef
    (or chicken) soup or stew.

    Oddly I prefer turnips raw. Just peeled and sliced with a sprinkle of
    salt. I can tolerate them cooked/boiled if there is something of a much different flavour to "chase" them with.

    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    Did he like them?

    He didn't say one way or the other.But I noticed he only took a courtesy helping on his own plate. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Neeps & Tatties
    Categories: Five, Vegetables
    Yield: 8 Servings

    8 lg Baking (russet) potatoes;
    - washed, unpeeled, cut in
    - 2cm X 4cm (3/4" X 1 1/2")
    - chunks
    6 tb Light olive oil or sunflower
    - oil
    675 g (1 1/2 lb) Swedish turnip;
    - peeled, sliced, rough
    - chopped
    50 g (2 tb) butter: more to serve

    The day before you want to serve, set the oven to
    200oC/390oF(convection) 220oC/425oF/gas 7(standard). Put
    the potatoes into a pan of lightly salted water, return
    to the boil and cook for 5 minutes. Drain the potatoes,
    put them back into the pan and place it back on the heat
    for a couple of minutes to dry out.

    Meanwhile, pour the oil into a large roasting tin (you
    may have to use two) and heat it in the oven until
    smoking hot. Now stir the potatoes into the hot oil and
    return to the oven to roast, turning occasionally, for 55
    minutes.

    Cook the turnip in boiling salted water for 50-55
    minutes, or until very soft. Drain and add to the roasted
    potatoes. Roughly mash everything together, keeping quite
    chunky, then cool, cover and keep in a cool place.

    To serve, set the oven to 180oC/360oF(convection)
    200oC/390oF/gas 6(conventional). Uncover the potatoes and
    turnip, dot with the butter and put in the oven to reheat
    for 25-30 minutes, stirring now and again until piping
    hot. Serve with lots of butter.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.bbcgoodfood.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Aug 8 04:55:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    BTW, we're just starting to get rain from the latest tropical storm.
    It's supposed to pass over just to the west of us, giving us rain from
    now until Saturday. If power is down, I'll be off line.

    I see on the NOAA and Weather Channel that Debby has Raleigh on her path.
    You guys are pretty close to there so brace yourselves.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Justin & Christine's Hurricane Pork
    Categories: Pork, Curry, Vegetables
    Yield: 6 Servigns

    3 tb Butter
    3 tb Maple syrup
    2 ts Curry powder
    2 ts Colman's ground mustard
    2 c Ginger ale; divided
    1 lb Pork tenderloin
    16 oz Bag baby carrots
    Salt & ground black pepper

    Melt butter in a small saucepan over medium-low heat;
    stir maple syrup, curry powder, and ground mustard into
    butter until smooth. Pour 1/4 cup ginger ale into butter
    mixture. Reduce heat to low and simmer for 2 minutes.

    Place pork tenderloin into a slow cooker and spread
    carrots over pork; pour remaining ginger ale over meat
    and carrots. Pour the butter syrup over the top.

    Cover and cook on Low for 8 hours. Season with salt and
    black pepper.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.allrecipes.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Shawn Highfield on Thu Aug 8 05:59:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I get them off my Kindle when I'm finished reading. I just tap
    "remove download" on the home page menu. It's still listed on the

    Okay I'll try that. I've just not been happy with the interface of the kindle, but I like everything else about it.

    The interface has some weird sh..tuff. But, I suppose since I'm so used
    to it I barely notice it anymore.

    And lots easier. My favourite breakfast 'taters are the little square cubes - sometimes called cottage fries or hash browns (not the
    shredded ones) with a garlic-butter sauce lightly applied.

    They are called "Home Fries" here. :)

    Some places they're called home fries, or cottage fries, or even hash
    browns - probably because the potatoes in corned beef hash are small
    cubes.

    American fries (most places) are thin sliced and par-cooked before they
    get fried. And a couple places around here call them home fries.

    Sweet taters for us are simple. Bake them until tender. Split

    Ever do them in th \e microwave?

    Honestly no... I use the microwave very little, other then warming
    things up. Frozen meals at work that kinda stuff, the rest of the
    time I just prefer to use other methods of cooking.

    I don't cook a lot of stuff from raw in the microwave. But bacon and
    baked potatoes (white or sweet) are just easier and quicker with less
    clean-up.

    I have made this novelty cake - twice.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chile-Chocolate Microwave Mug Cake
    Categories: Cakes, Snacks, Chocolate, Chilies
    Yield: 1 Serving

    4 tb (45 g) self raising flour
    4 tb (55 g) caster sugar
    2 tb (17 g) cocoa powder
    1 lg Egg
    3 tb (43 ml) milk
    3 tb (25 ml) sunflower oil
    3 tb Chocolate chips
    sm Dash of vanilla extract
    lg Pinch of dried chile *

    * You could use ground chile powder or replace the choc
    chips with chile chocolate. You could also use more or
    less chile depending on your tastebuds.

    Add dry ingredients (including chile) to a large coffee
    mug, and mix well. Add the egg and mix thoroughly Add
    the milk and oil - mix well (don't forget the corners /
    edges of the mug). Add the chocolate chips (if using)
    and vanilla extract, and mix again Put your mug in the
    microwave and cook for 3 minutes (in an 800 watt
    microwave).

    The cake will rise above the top of the mug, but don't
    worry it's supposed to! Allow to cool a little, tip out
    onto a plate.

    EAT and enjoy - this can serve two - it's a huge portion
    for one!

    From: http://blog.chilliupnorth.co.uk

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Aug 7 13:29:02 2024
    Hi Dave,

    McD's had better PR folks. (G) Seriously, it was probably the Golden Arches and the fact you could get the same cheap meal at whatever franchise you went to, whether it be in Peoria, IL or Peoria, AZ.

    Sandy's didn't have Ronald McDonald or the Hamburglar. Just a figure
    in a kilt w/bagpipes. And nothing remotely Scottish on the menu.

    None of the kitsch, just good, inexpensive food.


    I've got apps for Hardee's, Wendy's, Popeyes, Arby's, Domino's Pizza
    and Jimmy John's (subs). They are a convenience for me. Not to mention there are a lot of "app/on-line only" specials I take adbvantage.

    We've got no apps for any of the above and will keep it that way. Of
    your listing, we go to Arby's and Popeyes, but neither one one of them that often.

    As I said, they're a convenience. I can order while at work and
    pick-up on my way home ... or order from home and then do the quick
    trip. That
    works especially well with Popeyes on Tuesdays when the drive thru
    lines a "around the block" long due to the "Tuesday" special. I order
    from my confuser, drive to my nearby Popeyes and park right by the
    door, nip
    inside and go to the Door Dash station. I tell the clerk who I am,
    pick up my food and beat feet for the house.

    Nearest Popeyes for us is Raleigh so not convenient to do that.
    Especially since northbound late afternoon/early evening traffic is very
    slow going,chicken would be cold by the time we got home. Not worth
    going down just to eat in either, more of "if we're in the area, we'll
    stop" kind of place. Same plaza as Harbor Freight, an occaisional stop.

    Popeyes just wound up a "Buy 6 wings ($5.99) and get another 6 for
    $1." That was supper last night for both me and Dennis - and the
    mutts loved the bones.

    We went to Alpaca's (Peruvian chicken) yesterday after church, split a half chicken and several sides. Brought some chicken home that we had
    for supper.

    Never had Peruvian chicken. What is the distinguishing characteristic
    that makes it "special"?

    Charcoal grilled, not sure what spices they use but it's good.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.

    I give the Subway sheet to Dennis as he prefers them over Jimmy
    John's. The BK goes into the clipper pile. Every couple of months I go through
    the pile and send the expired sheets to the newspaper pile for another trip through the system.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Same here, also some for several of the local Mexican restaurants.

    Fodder for the recycle bag.

    True dat.

    Our recycle can is usually fuller than the regular trash can.

    Sprig-a-leak's recycle program uses blue totes and the disposal
    company that has the contract with the city runs "sorter" trucks that aluminum cans, etc. where the pay $$$ for your old cans. Sadly,
    neither takes plastic grocery sacks. You have to haul those back to
    one of the grocers who do recycle them.

    Our trucks do a trash run, empty out and do a recycle run. We can't do
    plastic bags either, and are limited in recyclable plastics. Used to
    have a smaller recycle can but a few years ago we were allowed to get a
    larger one, use the old can for yard waste, increasing the amount we
    could dispose of there.

    Hy-Vee is the only one of my local stupormarkups that offer paper
    or DD> plastic at their check-outs.

    We have to buy paper or plastic at Aldi's or Lidl, buy paper at Wegman's
    (no plastic for sale) so we usually bring our own reuseable bags. We've
    quite a collection, including several insulated and a couple that are
    regular one side, insulated the other.

    8<----- SNIP----->8

    with a proper salad bar. (We stopped there in May, on our way to Ohio
    from visiting family in the Rochester, NY area & had lunch there.)

    Was this at your college? Most campus dining halls don't do
    "walk-ins". Unless it's run as a concession by an outside party.

    It is run by an outside company with supplimental student staff. We
    were there over graduation week end/class of '74 reunion but we've
    been able to have a meal there other times.

    So, it was/is a concession. Graduation time is pretty crazy at most of
    the colleges/universities I've been around.

    True, but this is a smaller school. Student population is @1200+/-
    bodies.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to CAROL SHENKENBERGER on Thu Aug 8 09:45:00 2024
    I'm not fond of sweet potatoes either. I've been somewhat set on never making >them. Too sweet by far for me.

    I don't much care for them, either, at least not the way we Americans make them. I have had sweet potatoes in an Indian dish or two and they are not
    bad the way they prepare them... they don't really seem too sweet at all.

    Mike


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:154/700 to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 9 06:42:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Fri, 08 Aug 24>, you wrote me:

    The interface has some weird sh..tuff. But, I suppose since I'm so
    used to it I barely notice it anymore.

    I've been using it for years and in the last year I think they really screwed it up IMO. Thankfully the reading side of the interface is still nice and simple and since tha'ts where I spend most of the time I can deal.

    Some places they're called home fries, or cottage fries, or even hash browns - probably because the potatoes in corned beef hash are small cubes.

    I think they stopped making the canned corned beef hash. I haven't found it
    in a loooong time. Andrea and I used to like to keep a can in the cupboard for those lazy evenings doing breakfast for supper.

    I have made this novelty cake - twice.
    Title: Chile-Chocolate Microwave Mug Cake

    I made one once. I had to throw the mug out as I could never get it clean. Promptly deleted the recipe. ;)

    Shawn


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Aug 8 12:27:45 2024
    Hi Carol,


    I'm not fond of sweet potatoes either. I've been somewhat set on
    never making them. Too sweet by far for me.

    Same here, but I will bake one now and then for Steve, as long as
    there's an Irish (white) potato to bake for myself.

    How's your breadmaking going these days? I've gotten better and
    better at it.

    I've not done too much of it lately, need to clear away some of the
    stuff that's accumulated in the corner of the counter where I keep my
    mixer. Thought we had a lot more stowage in this kitchen than the rental
    house, but really don't, so odds and ends that have no other place wind
    up there, until I find a nook or cranny for them. Maybe try now, so that
    when the weather cools off/drys out, I'll be able to access the mixer
    easier.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Aug 8 12:39:30 2024
    Hi Dave,

    somewhere in my collection of recipies is one for Pot Au Feu, or as
    Steve calls it, fancy French beef stew. It calls for turnips, not in
    any great quantity. Extra turnips usually go into a mixed veggie beef
    (or chicken) soup or stew.

    Oddly I prefer turnips raw. Just peeled and sliced with a sprinkle of salt. I can tolerate them cooked/boiled if there is something of a
    much different flavour to "chase" them with.

    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    Did he like them?

    He didn't say one way or the other.But I noticed he only took a
    courtesy helping on his own plate. Bv)=

    Sounds suspiciously like he didn't like them either. My mom never served
    them. We always went to her parents for Thanksgiving; her mom had quite
    a spread, to include the turnips and sweet potatoes. At Christmas, her
    parents (and single sister) came to our house. Mom did turkey for quite
    a few years, then switched to goose some time when I was in high school.
    Either bird, the sides were always mashed potatoes and gravy, some
    vegetable like corn or peas, brown & serve rolls, canned (jelly)
    cranberry sauce, celery sticks and olives. Dessert was always pumpkin
    pie. I do remember one year when her family couldn't come up, she has
    shrimp cocktail as a starter but every year was basically the same menu
    as the years before.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Aug 8 12:55:08 2024
    Hi Dave,


    BTW, we're just starting to get rain from the latest tropical storm.
    It's supposed to pass over just to the west of us, giving us rain from
    now until Saturday. If power is down, I'll be off line.

    I see on the NOAA and Weather Channel that Debby has Raleigh on her
    path. You guys are pretty close to there so brace yourselves.

    Debby took a turn to the west so we're getting the dirty (as one
    forecaster put it) side. Tornado watch in effect until 9 pm, so far
    (since midnight) about 3.5" of rain, flash flood warnings for several
    days but rain is supposed to end tomorrow afternoon. We're watching
    closly as we don't have the camper right now.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 10 05:44:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    somewhere in my collection of recipies is one for Pot Au Feu, or as
    Steve calls it, fancy French beef stew. It calls for turnips, not in
    any great quantity. Extra turnips usually go into a mixed veggie beef
    (or chicken) soup or stew.

    Oddly I prefer turnips raw. Just peeled and sliced with a sprinkle
    of salt. I can tolerate them cooked/boiled if there is something
    of a much different flavour to "chase" them with.

    My dad just sat there with a beatific smile on his face.

    Did he like them?

    He didn't say one way or the other.But I noticed he only took a
    courtesy helping on his own plate. Bv)=

    Sounds suspiciously like he didn't like them either. My mom never
    served them. We always went to her parents for Thanksgiving; her mom
    had quite a spread, to include the turnips and sweet potatoes. At Christmas, her parents (and single sister) came to our house. Mom did turkey for quite a few years, then switched to goose some time when I
    was in high school. Either bird, the sides were always mashed potatoes
    and gravy, some vegetable like corn or peas, brown & serve rolls,
    canned (jelly) cranberry sauce, celery sticks and olives. Dessert was always pumpkin pie. I do remember one year when her family couldn't
    come up, she has shrimp cocktail as a starter but every year was
    basically the same menu as the years before.

    We never had them at home. Mostly because Mom didn't like them in any
    key. And at my grandparent's only if my great-grandmother was cooking.

    The big holidays were turkey or goose, two kinds of stuffing/dressing
    (regular and oyster), glazed carrots, another vegetable, jellied
    cranberry sauce or home-done cranberry sauce w/whole cranberries (and
    watch out for the "unpopped" berries as they have tremendous pucker
    power). Also dinner rolls, salad and for desert squash or pumpkin pie,
    mince or raisin pie and/or pecan pie.

    Some years just one sort of pie. Other years as many as three different
    pie offerings. Or suet pudding w/"hard" sauce.

    If I were making this today I might use craisins on place of the more
    prosauic raisins.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Johnny Bull (Suet) Pudding
    Categories: Puddings, Beef, Fruits, Desserts, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 c Chopped kidney suet
    3 c Flour
    2 ts Baking powder
    3 lg Eggs
    1 c Sugar
    2 c Cooked raisins
    1 ts (ea) ground ginger, cinnamon
    - allspice
    1/2 ts Ground cloves
    2 c Milk

    MMMMM------------------------LEMON SAUCE-----------------------------
    1/2 c Sugar
    1 tb Flour
    1 ts Butter
    Juice of 1 lemon
    Grated rind of half lemon
    pn Salt
    1 c Water

    MMMMM--------------------BRANDY (HARD) SAUCE-------------------------
    1 c Water
    2 tb Corn Starch
    2 tb Butter
    1/2 c Sugar
    1 ts Nutmeg
    1/4 c Brandy
    1 ts Real Vanilla

    Mix 1 cup flour and suet together with hands until all
    strings are worked out of suet. Cream sugar and eggs
    together. Sift flour, baking powder & spices together.
    Add to creamed mixture and alternate with milk and
    flour/suet. Last, add raisins and mix well. Place in a
    cloth bag and steam over hot water for 3 hours. Serve
    with sauce.

    MAKE THE LEMON SAUCE: Mix all ingredients together and
    cook a few moments. Pour over pudding.

    MAKE THE HARD SAUCE: Mix dry ingredients and then stir
    them into a cup of boiling water. Boil for 5 minutes and
    then add butter, brandy, and vanilla.

    Serve hot over mince pie, gingerbread or plum pudding.

    From: My Grandmother's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Aug 9 05:19:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    McD's had better PR folks. (G) Seriously, it was probably the Golden Arches and the fact you could get the same cheap meal at whatever franchise you went to, whether it be in Peoria, IL or Peoria, AZ.

    Sandy's didn't have Ronald McDonald or the Hamburglar. Just a figure
    in a kilt w/bagpipes. And nothing remotely Scottish on the menu.

    None of the kitsch, just good, inexpensive food.

    Sandy's had much better (and bigger) burgers - including the Hi-Lo a
    double cheeseburger "with the cheese in the middle and a pickle n top".
    But, McRonnies had the best fries. Up until they quit using beef tallow
    for their deep fryers.

    I've got apps for Hardee's, Wendy's, Popeyes, Arby's, Domino's Pizza
    and Jimmy John's (subs). They are a convenience for me. Not to mention there are a lot of "app/on-line only" specials I take adbvantage.

    We've got no apps for any of the above and will keep it that way. Of
    your listing, we go to Arby's and Popeyes, but neither one one of them that often.

    As I said, they're a convenience. I can order while at work and
    pick-up on my way home ... or order from home and then do the quick
    trip. That works especially well with Popeyes on Tuesdays when the
    drive thru lines a "around the block" long due to the "Tuesday"
    special. I order from my confuser, drive to my nearby Popeyes and
    park right by the door, nip inside and go to the Door Dash station.
    I tell the clerk who I am, pick up my food and beat feet for the
    house.

    Nearest Popeyes for us is Raleigh so not convenient to do that.
    Especially since northbound late afternoon/early evening traffic is
    very slow going,chicken would be cold by the time we got home. Not
    worth going down just to eat in either, more of "if we're in the area, we'll stop" kind of place. Same plaza as Harbor Freight, an occaisional stop.

    I have found that their chicken nukes back to life very well. And it's
    still tasty even when cold. I but four of the "Tuesdays" and do the
    drumsticks when I get home. Then I stash the thighs for two more suppers
    later in the week. Nuke two thighs, add a veggie and some form of salad
    and dine fine.

    Popeyes just wound up a "Buy 6 wings ($5.99) and get another 6 for
    $1." That was supper last night for both me and Dennis - and the
    mutts loved the bones.

    We went to Alpaca's (Peruvian chicken) yesterday after church, split a half chicken and several sides. Brought some chicken home that we had
    for supper.

    Never had Peruvian chicken. What is the distinguishing characteristic
    that makes it "special"?

    Charcoal grilled, not sure what spices they use but it's good.

    Yes, we get the recycle bag flyer with all sorts of coupons. Haven't
    seen the Hardee's one in a while, last set was for Subway and BK.

    I give the Subway sheet to Dennis as he prefers them over Jimmy
    John's. The BK goes into the clipper pile. Every couple of months
    I go through the pile and send the expired sheets to the newspaper
    pile for another trip through the system.

    The bundle also contains window, siding and gutter hutles. As well as
    a BelTone hearing aid flyer and general beauty & bath merch coupons.

    Same here, also some for several of the local Mexican restaurants.

    That would be nice for here. We have a large number of "authentic" and
    regional places. And I see that Taqueria al Piasa has just added a food
    truck.

    Our recycle can is usually fuller than the regular trash can.

    Sprig-a-leak's recycle program uses blue totes and the disposal
    company that has the contract with the city runs "sorter" trucks that aluminum cans, etc. where the pay $$$ for your old cans. Sadly,
    neither takes plastic grocery sacks. You have to haul those back to
    one of the grocers who do recycle them.

    Our trucks do a trash run, empty out and do a recycle run. We can't do plastic bags either, and are limited in recyclable plastics. Used to
    have a smaller recycle can but a few years ago we were allowed to get a larger one, use the old can for yard waste, increasing the amount we
    could dispose of there.

    We buy yard waste bags (75c ea) with the revenue going to the city's
    yard waste program. A city truck picks them up from curbside and then
    off to this big compost facility between town and the airport. They
    also pick up fallen branches, etc. from trees - if they're placed at
    the curb. The local papers print the scheduled pickup days and loctionss.

    Hy-Vee is the only one of my local stupormarkups that offer paper
    or plastic at their check-outs.

    We have to buy paper or plastic at Aldi's or Lidl, buy paper at
    Wegman's (no plastic for sale) so we usually bring our own reuseable
    bags. We've quite a collection, including several insulated and a
    couple that are regular one side, insulated the other.

    Sounds like my place. I was a bit dismayed during the Covid pandemic
    that the reusable totes were not allowed. At ALDI I can usually find an
    empty box or two and not have to buy carriers from them. Same with Ruler
    (a Kroger "no frills" brand). Sav-A-Lot has begun offering free logo-ed
    plastic bags at their bag-it-yourself table.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Citrus Garlic Shrimp Skewers
    Categories: Seafod, Citrus, Vegetables, Herbs, Fruits
    Yield: 10 Servings

    MMMMM--------------------------SKEWERS-------------------------------
    3 Limes; zested, juiced
    1 Orange; zested, juiced
    5 cl Garlic; minced
    1 ts Salt
    1 1/4 ts Ground black pepper
    1/4 c Chopped cilantro
    24 oz Jumbo (U12) shrimp; peeled,
    - deveined

    MMMMM----------------------------DIP---------------------------------
    1 lg Avocado; pitted, peeled
    2 tb Lime juice
    1 tb Orange juice
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/4 c Chopped cilantro
    1 cl Garlic
    2 tb Oil
    Cooking spray

    FOR THE SKEWERS: Combine all ingredients in a resealable
    bag and let marinate for 30 minutes.

    FOR THE DIP: Combine all ingredients in a food processor
    and pulse until smooth. Transfer to a small bowl and
    reserve.

    Pierce 4-5 shrimp on each skewer.

    Heat cast iron griddle over medium-high heat. Coat with
    cooking spray.

    Cook the skewers for 2-3 minutes on each side or until
    done.

    TIP: These can easily be turned into a quick taco
    dinner. Skip the skewers and cook as instructed. Add the
    shrimp to a warm corn tortilla and dress up some cabbage
    with the dip for a slaw.

    Recipe Courtesy of Chef Leigh An, ALDI Test Kitchen

    RECIPE FROM: https://new.aldi.us

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Mike Powell on Fri Aug 9 05:25:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to CAROL SHENKENBERGER <=-

    I'm not fond of sweet potatoes either. I've been somewhat set on never
    aking
    them. Too sweet by far for me.

    I don't much care for them, either, at least not the way we Americans
    make them. I have had sweet potatoes in an Indian dish or two and they are not bad the way they prepare them... they don't really seem too
    sweet at all.

    Sweet potatoes, I find, are not as sweet (without addtions in cooking) as carrots. Carrots have a *lot* of sugar. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Carrot Souffle
    Categories: Vegetable, Eggs, Dairy
    Yield: 3 Servings

    4 lg Carrots; peeled, cooked,
    - in cubes
    3 lg Eggs
    1 1/4 c Milk
    1/2 c Cheddar cheese
    3 tb Flour
    3 tb Butter; melted
    1 ts Salt

    Set oven @ 375ºF/190ºC.

    In a blender, mix everything together. Pour the mixture
    into a greased casserole.

    Bake, uncovered, in the pre heated oven until done,
    approximately 1 hour.

    Recipe: Kathleen Herold of the Richmond/Rosenburg area,
    Texas

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Sat Aug 10 10:24:00 2024
    Sweet potatoes, I find, are not as sweet (without addtions in cooking) as carrots. Carrots have a *lot* of sugar. Bv)=

    Back 20 years ago or so, a co-worker was trying to get me involved in the juicing craze. He may have been selling juicers as part of some scheme, I don't recall. I did watch a video or two about it and the pitchman
    mentioned using either carrots or apples in your juice recipes in order to
    add sweetness.

    Mike

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 11 05:39:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Sweet potatoes, I find, are not as sweet (without addtions in cooking)
    as carrots. Carrots have a *lot* of sugar. Bv)=

    Back 20 years ago or so, a co-worker was trying to get me involved in
    the juicing craze. He may have been selling juicers as part of some scheme, I don't recall. I did watch a video or two about it and the pitchman mentioned using either carrots or apples in your juice recipes
    in order to add sweetness.

    I was introduced to that little factoid in a similar fashion. A guy I
    knew was in a multi-level-marketing scheme for some brand of waterless
    cookware and he was both trying to hustle me to buy a set of his pots
    and pans and to sign me up as an underling. I passed on both of those "opportunities". But I did learn a few things from the demo he did. Bv)=

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sweet & Sour Glazed Carrots
    Categories: Vegetables, Fruits
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 lb Fresh babycut carrots
    1/4 c Sugar
    2 tb White vinegar
    1/4 c Butter
    2 tb Water
    1 ts Cornstarch
    1/4 c Crisins (dried cranberries)

    In a medium saucepan over high heat, place carrots in
    enough water to cover. Bring to a boil and cook 8 to 10
    minutes, or until fork tender; drain and set aside.

    In the same saucepan over medium heat, bring sugar,
    vinegar, and butter to a boil.

    In a small bowl, combine water and cornstarch, stirring
    until cornstarch is dissolved. Add cornstarch mixture to
    vinegar mixture, stirring until thickened. Add carrots
    and cranberries to mixture and heat 5 minutes, or until
    heated through.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.mrfood.com

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Sun Aug 11 07:53:00 2024
    I was introduced to that little factoid in a similar fashion. A guy I
    knew was in a multi-level-marketing scheme for some brand of waterless cookware and he was both trying to hustle me to buy a set of his pots
    and pans and to sign me up as an underling. I passed on both of those "opportunities". But I did learn a few things from the demo he did. Bv)=

    "Waterless" cookware? How do you keep it clean. ;)

    Mike


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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 10 12:28:19 2024
    Re: Books
    By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Aug 08 2024 12:27 pm


    Ah I still bake breas once a week for us and Charlotte when she's home, Last bake was a nice butternilk bread, Made 1 freeform and 4 bagettes and some subs. It's just about out now. I turned come of it into shelf stable stuffing.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 12 05:43:00 2024
    Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    I was introduced to that little factoid in a similar fashion. A guy I
    knew was in a multi-level-marketing scheme for some brand of waterless cookware and he was both trying to hustle me to buy a set of his pots
    and pans and to sign me up as an underling. I passed on both of those "opportunities". But I did learn a few things from the demo he did. Bv)=

    "Waterless" cookware? How do you keep it clean. ;)

    Magick. Or let the dogs wash it. Waterless refers to cooking. I asked
    they guy doing the presentation "How do you steam something, then?"

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    Title: Cider-Steamed Mussels w/Applejack Cream
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Fruits, Dairy, Booze
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lg Onion; sliced thin
    1 c Apple cider
    32 Mussels; cleaned
    1/4 c Laird's Applejack
    2 c Heavy cream
    White pepper & salt
    1/4 c Minced fresh parsley leaves

    Perfect for fall, when apples and mussels are in
    abundance.

    In a large skillet with a tight-fitting lid, combine the
    onion, cider, and 1/2 cup water; bring to a boil over high
    heat. Add the mussels and cook them, covered, for 3-5
    minutes, or until they are opened. Transfer the mussels
    with a slotted spoon to a hated serving dish, discarding
    any unopened ones. Cover them with a hot, damp dishcloth
    to keep them from drying out.

    Add the AppleJack to the skillet and reduce the liquid to
    about 1/2 cup. Add the cream, a little at a time, bringing
    the liquid to a boil after each addition, and reduce this
    liquid until it measures about 3/4 cup. Add the white
    pepper and salt it to taste. Strain the sauce through a
    fine sieve over the mussels, and sprinkle the mixture with
    minced parsley.

    Yield: 4 servings

    Source: The Winnetka Grill, Winnetka, Illinois

    From: http://www.lairdandcompany.com

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