• Liver

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Aug 23 11:02:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I think all the correspondence of a couple of weeks ago hit the bit
    bucket in the sky when we had tropical storm Debby come thru the area.
    I didn't get any Fido for a couple of days, then it started up slowly.
    Now it seems to be back to normal.

    You'll have that some days. I just assumed you were road tripping.

    My house mate "hates" liver. It stems from some Navy chow hall liver
    making him barf up everything but his socks one time.

    I could never get past the smell of liver being cooked, or how it
    smelled warm on the plate, but...

    Our girls don't like it either. AFAIK, neither of them has ever fixed
    it for their families.

    The only time I ever had a problem is one time my mother bought some
    pork liver that was on "special offer". When she started to fry it
    for our supper the house smelled like someone had peed on a hot
    radiator.

    It turns out that it was boar's liver from a hog in rut. From then on
    it was beef or lamb's liver only.

    Chicken liver and baby beef liver are also good. The forme is good for doing something where you start by cutting the liver into smaller
    pieces. I do a sort of Mexican style liver sometimes--cut the liver
    into strips (or bite size pieces, depending on whatever liver you use). Dredge it in seasoned flour. Slice an onion and bell pepper (color of choice, lately I've used more red, yellow or orange). Saute the liver
    in olive oil, when about half done add the pepper and onion. Add one 8
    oz can of tomato sauce, 1/2 can water and chili seasonings, cook until liquid thickens up. Serve over rice or pasta, grate some Cheddar cheese over top. May sub out Italian seasonings, parmisan cheese for a
    different flavor.

    My favourite way to do chicken liver is breaded and deep fried. I stopped
    a Humphrey's deli counter on the way home from work yeaterday and picked
    up a half-pound of livers and a pint container of cantaloupe and that was lunch. Supper was a small container of raspberry-chocolate yoghurt. I just
    feel so virtuous when I do that. Bv)=

    The fig tree is still giving us figs, but it has slowed down a bit. I found a recipe for fig bread on line so made up a couple of loaves
    today. It's cooling right now, will probably have some with supper.

    I used to make braunschweiger sandwiches which he'd gobble down until

    I do like braunschweiger! Of course, it is probably one of the less healthy versions of liver so that somehow tracks.

    It's one form of liver I never got into. My dad used to buy some (and other German sausages) from a plant in North Tonawanda, NY when I was growing up. It was something he would have with his nightly beer after
    all of us kids had gone to bed, which is probably why I never got into
    it.

    My grand-dad introduced me to it when we staying out at the farm during
    the week when my grandmother worked at the state capitol. Some German- descended folks name Schuppman had a grocery and meat market and offered braunschweiger, Also bockwurst, weisswurst, bratwurst, etc. all mad in
    their butcher department. But the liverwurst didn't need cooking so it
    was much simpler to make a quick lunch os liverwurst/braunschweiger and onion/tomato on wheat bread.

    Schuppman's also made their own hot dogs (Frankfurter Wurtschen) with a
    casing that you had to bite through to get at the goodness inside. Unlike
    the skinless franks we are used to these days.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Homemade Weisswurst Sausage
    Categories: Pork, Beef, Game, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 16 servings

    1 tb Lard
    1/2 c Minced white onion
    3 lb White meat; pork, veal,
    - turkey, rabbit, chicken
    1 lb Bacon ends or fatty pork
    - shoulder
    20 g (2 tb) salt; plus a teaspoon
    1 tb Minced parsley
    1/2 ts Dry (Colmans) mustard powder
    1/2 ts Powdered ginger
    1/2 ts White pepper
    1/2 ts Mace
    1/2 ts Ground cardamom
    Grated zest of a lemon
    1 c Ice water
    Hog casings

    Heat the lard in a small pan and cook the onions until
    soft. Do not brown them. Let them cool doen to room
    temperature, or refrigerate them. This can be done up to
    a day in advance.

    OPTIONAL STEP: Cut the meat and bacon ends into chunks
    and mix with the salt. Refrigerate overnight in a closed
    container. Doing this helps the bind, but is not 100%
    needed.

    Soak about 10 feet of hog casings in warm water.

    When you are ready to grind, mix the meats, salt,
    parsley, spices and lemon zest. Grind through a coarse
    or medium die. Put the mixture in the freezer while you
    clean up, or, if the meat is still below 40┬║F/4.5┬║C,
    grind again through a fine die, at least 4.5 mm and
    ideally 3 mm. This time, definitely put the meat in the
    freezer while you clean up.

    Once the meat is at about 34┬║F/1┬║C, put it in a large
    bowl with the water. Mix this with your clean hands for
    about 90 seconds, or until the mixture binds together as
    a cohesive mass that you can pick up in one glob. Your
    hands should hurt from the cold.

    Put a length of casing on your sausage stuffer and fill
    it with the weisswurst. Crank out one large length of
    sausage, leaving about 3 to 5 inches of "tail," unfilled
    casing, on either end. You don't want to fill the
    casings overly tight just yet. Repeat this process until
    you have all the sausage in casings.

    Get a large pot of water hot, about 160┬║F/71┬║C.

    To form links, pinch off a link of about 6" long at one
    end of the length. Spin it away from you to set the
    link. Now move down the length and pinch off another
    link, but this time spin it towards you. Keep doing
    this, spinning in alternate directions, until you get to
    the end of the length. Doing this helps prevents the
    links from coming apart. (This video shows how I do it.)
    Tie off the ends.

    Now, to tighten them, get a clean needle or sausage
    pricker. Gently compress the meat in each length,
    spinning it a little more in the direction you first
    spun. You will see air pockets. Prick the casing to
    remove them, again gently compressing the links to fill
    the casing. Do this for every link.

    Carefully lower the weisswurst into the hot water. They
    will want to unspin a bit so watch for that. Poach them
    gently for 20 minutes or so. While they are cooking,
    fill a large basin with ice water. Dunk the links in
    this ice water after they've cooked. Leave them there
    for 10 minutes. Pat them dry and you are ready to go.
    They will keep for about 5 days in the fridge, and can
    be frozen.

    Yield: 16 servings

    Recipe by: Hank Shaw: Hunt, Gather, Cook

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.simplyrecipes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 23 14:14:54 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I think all the correspondence of a couple of weeks ago hit the bit
    bucket in the sky when we had tropical storm Debby come thru the area.
    I didn't get any Fido for a couple of days, then it started up slowly.
    Now it seems to be back to normal.

    You'll have that some days. I just assumed you were road tripping.

    Not yet, got one planned for the latter part of next month out to TN for
    the RV/radio group. Probably going to stop in Asheville to see the Dale
    Chihuly exhibit (glassworks) at Biltmore on the way out. Another trip
    planned is for mid October, another radio group but may also head up to
    NY to visit Steve's family before the snow flies. Should be able to pick
    up our camper from the repair shop later today.

    My house mate "hates" liver. It stems from some Navy chow hall liver
    making him barf up everything but his socks one time.

    I could never get past the smell of liver being cooked, or how it
    smelled warm on the plate, but...

    Our girls don't like it either. AFAIK, neither of them has ever fixed
    it for their families.

    The only time I ever had a problem is one time my mother bought some
    pork liver that was on "special offer". When she started to fry it
    for our supper the house smelled like someone had peed on a hot
    radiator.

    It turns out that it was boar's liver from a hog in rut. From then on
    it was beef or lamb's liver only.

    Chicken liver and baby beef liver are also good. The forme is good for doing something where you start by cutting the liver into smaller
    pieces. I do a sort of Mexican style liver sometimes--cut the liver
    into strips (or bite size pieces, depending on whatever liver you use). Dredge it in seasoned flour. Slice an onion and bell pepper (color of choice, lately I've used more red, yellow or orange). Saute the liver
    in olive oil, when about half done add the pepper and onion. Add one 8
    oz can of tomato sauce, 1/2 can water and chili seasonings, cook until liquid thickens up. Serve over rice or pasta, grate some Cheddar cheese over top. May sub out Italian seasonings, parmisan cheese for a
    different flavor.

    My favourite way to do chicken liver is breaded and deep fried. I
    stopped a Humphrey's deli counter on the way home from work yeaterday
    and picked up a half-pound of livers and a pint container of
    cantaloupe and that was lunch. Supper was a small container of raspberry-chocolate yoghurt. I just feel so virtuous when I do that.
    Bv)=

    You know that all the breading and frying of the livers, plus sugars in
    the yogurt cancel out all the good for you parts, don't you? (G)


    The fig tree is still giving us figs, but it has slowed down a bit. I found a recipe for fig bread on line so made up a couple of loaves
    today. It's cooling right now, will probably have some with supper.

    Decided to use something older instead. Will probably make fig scones
    tomorrow so they'll be fresh for Sunday breakfast.

    I used to make braunschweiger sandwiches which he'd gobble down until

    I do like braunschweiger! Of course, it is probably one of the less healthy versions of liver so that somehow tracks.

    It's one form of liver I never got into. My dad used to buy some (and other German sausages) from a plant in North Tonawanda, NY when I was growing up. It was something he would have with his nightly beer after
    all of us kids had gone to bed, which is probably why I never got into
    it.

    My grand-dad introduced me to it when we staying out at the farm
    during the week when my grandmother worked at the state capitol. Some German-
    descended folks name Schuppman had a grocery and meat market and
    offered braunschweiger, Also bockwurst, weisswurst, bratwurst, etc.
    all mad in
    their butcher department. But the liverwurst didn't need cooking so it
    was much simpler to make a quick lunch os liverwurst/braunschweiger
    and onion/tomato on wheat bread.

    Schuppman's also made their own hot dogs (Frankfurter Wurtschen) with
    a casing that you had to bite through to get at the goodness inside. Unlike the skinless franks we are used to these days.

    Sounds like a place we could have dropped some serious money at.
    Unfortunatly, they are few and far betweeen now.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Aug 25 06:07:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I think all the correspondence of a couple of weeks ago hit the bit
    bucket in the sky when we had tropical storm Debby come thru the area.
    I didn't get any Fido for a couple of days, then it started up slowly.
    Now it seems to be back to normal.

    You'll have that some days. I just assumed you were road tripping.

    Not yet, got one planned for the latter part of next month out to TN
    for the RV/radio group. Probably going to stop in Asheville to see the Dale Chihuly exhibit (glassworks) at Biltmore on the way out. Another

    Is that a satellite of the main Chilhuly Garden & Glass in Seattle? Or a
    "road show" version if it? If you're in the Seattle area the Chilhuly place
    and Pike Place Market are *must* visits. Even if you ignore the fish tossers who are in the promo pieces. Bv)=

    trip planned is for mid October, another radio group but may also head
    up to NY to visit Steve's family before the snow flies. Should be able
    to pick up our camper from the repair shop later today.

    You could be cutting that close with the wacky way the weather hasw been
    acting lately. Last week our daily temps averaged in the mid 70s (in the
    month of August f'cry sakes) and next week leading u to Labor Day are to
    be in the high 90s. Go figger.

    My house mate "hates" liver. It stems from some Navy chow hall liver
    making him barf up everything but his socks one time.

    I could never get past the smell of liver being cooked, or how it
    smelled warm on the plate, but...

    Our girls don't like it either. AFAIK, neither of them has ever fixed
    it for their families.

    The only time I ever had a problem is one time my mother bought some
    pork liver that was on "special offer". When she started to fry it
    for our supper the house smelled like someone had peed on a hot
    radiator.

    It turns out that it was boar's liver from a hog in rut. From then on
    it was beef or lamb's liver only.

    Chicken liver and baby beef liver are also good. The forme is good for doing something where you start by cutting the liver into smaller
    pieces. I do a sort of Mexican style liver sometimes--cut the liver
    into strips (or bite size pieces, depending on whatever liver you use). Dredge it in seasoned flour. Slice an onion and bell pepper (color of choice, lately I've used more red, yellow or orange). Saute the liver
    in olive oil, when about half done add the pepper and onion. Add one 8
    oz can of tomato sauce, 1/2 can water and chili seasonings, cook until liquid thickens up. Serve over rice or pasta, grate some Cheddar cheese over top. May sub out Italian seasonings, parmisan cheese for a
    different flavor.

    My favourite way to do chicken liver is breaded and deep fried. I
    stopped a Humphrey's deli counter on the way home from work yeaterday
    and picked up a half-pound of livers and a pint container of
    cantaloupe and that was lunch. Supper was a small container of raspberry-chocolate yoghurt. I just feel so virtuous when I do that.
    Bv)=

    You know that all the breading and frying of the livers, plus sugars in the yogurt cancel out all the good for you parts, don't you? (G)

    The yoghurt is Dannon's Light & Fit and according to the label has 80
    calories, 12 grams of protein and 0 grams of fat in a 5.3 oz serving.
    It's the first low/no fat thing I've come across in82 years that tastes
    "right" to me.

    The fig tree is still giving us figs, but it has slowed down a bit. I found a recipe for fig bread on line so made up a couple of loaves
    today. It's cooling right now, will probably have some with supper.

    Decided to use something older instead. Will probably make fig scones tomorrow so they'll be fresh for Sunday breakfast.

    I used to make braunschweiger sandwiches which he'd gobble down until

    I do like braunschweiger! Of course, it is probably one of the less healthy versions of liver so that somehow tracks.

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    Schuppman's also made their own hot dogs (Frankfurter Wurtschen) with
    a casing that you had to bite through to get at the goodness inside. Unlike the skinless franks we are used to these days.

    Sounds like a place we could have dropped some serious money at. Unfortunatly, they are few and far betweeen now.

    All of the Schuppmans have either gone to their reward or relocated.
    And the supermarkets have done in the neighbourhood grocers even in
    small town America. It's sad.

    Fortunately my home-town family owned market (Humphrey's) survives and
    thrives. In fact they have expanded (a bit) and remodelled. Just got
    done with installing autoatic opening doors at the entrance/exit.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Caramelized Onion, Bacon, & Blue Cheese Smothered Ribeye
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Cheese, Pork, Citrus
    Yield: 2 servings

    16 oz Ribeye steak
    1 c Crumbled blue cheese
    1 md Onion; diced
    1/4 lb thick sliced bacon; rough
    - chopped
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce
    2 tb Orange juice

    Caramelize bacon and onion in a pot.

    Mix blue cheese, Worcestershire, and orange juice in a
    separate bowl.

    Sear ribeye on both sides to create a crust.

    Top the steak with the blue cheese, bacon, and onion
    mixture.

    Roast in the oven for 15 minutes (medium rare).

    UDD NOTES: This is a horrid way to treat an honest rib-
    eye steak. I used, instead chuck steak (not chuck-eye,
    which is nearly as good as rib-eye) oe sirloin.

    RECIPE FROM: https://humphreysmarket.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Aug 25 06:42:00 2024
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I do like braunschweiger! Of course, it is probably one of the
    less healthy versions of liver so that somehow tracks.

    It's just a form of liver sausage. Here's another way:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Beef Liver Pate
    Categories: Five, Beef, Appetisers, Dairy
    Yield: 48 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Beef liver
    1/2 c Half & Half
    1/3 c Chopped onion
    1/2 ts (ea) Salt & Pepper
    1 c Butter

    Ick! Run for the hills! It's LIVER!!!

    I won't pull a gun on you and force you to eat it. Honest, with my
    right hanb up. Bv)=

    But, I will post another liver recipe that I like.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Buckwheat Kasha w/Liver
    Categories: Five, Grains, Offal, Beef
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 c (227 g) buckwheat
    3 c (750 mL) water
    4 oz (115 g) veal liver
    3 tb (45 mL) fat
    2 lg Eggs; hard boiled
    Salt

    Boil buckwheat in water until it is crumbly. Fry
    buckwheat kasha in fat for 7-10 mins. Boil liver in
    salted water for 15 minutes, chop finely and fry in fat.
    Chop eggs finely. Add eggs, liver to buckwheat and fry
    in the pan for a while.

    Serve with broth.

    Recipe by: Olga Timokhina

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.ruscuisine.com

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Sun Aug 25 19:50:43 2024
    Re: Liver
    By: Dave Drum to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Aug 25 2024 06:42 am

    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I do like braunschweiger! Of course, it is probably one of the
    less healthy versions of liver so that somehow tracks.

    It's just a form of liver sausage. Here's another way:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Beef Liver Pate
    Categories: Five, Beef, Appetisers, Dairy
    Yield: 48 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Beef liver
    1/2 c Half & Half
    1/3 c Chopped onion
    1/2 ts (ea) Salt & Pepper
    1 c Butter

    Ick! Run for the hills! It's LIVER!!!

    I won't pull a gun on you and force you to eat it. Honest, with my
    right hanb up. Bv)=

    But, I will post another liver recipe that I like.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Buckwheat Kasha w/Liver
    Categories: Five, Grains, Offal, Beef
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 c (227 g) buckwheat
    3 c (750 mL) water
    4 oz (115 g) veal liver
    3 tb (45 mL) fat
    2 lg Eggs; hard boiled
    Salt

    Boil buckwheat in water until it is crumbly. Fry
    buckwheat kasha in fat for 7-10 mins. Boil liver in
    salted water for 15 minutes, chop finely and fry in fat.
    Chop eggs finely. Add eggs, liver to buckwheat and fry
    in the pan for a while.

    Serve with broth.

    Recipe by: Olga Timokhina

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.ruscuisine.com

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