• Presidential Dementia

    From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to All on Tue Sep 6 00:10:02 2022
    "Last week, the weirdo -- he's a weirdo -- Mark Zuckerberg came to the White House, kissed my ass.. kissed my ass. sure I'd love to have dinner. sure I'd love to have dinner, I'd love to bring my lovely wife.

    "all right, Mark, come on in."

    "Sir, you're #1 on Facebook, I'd like to congratulate you!"
    "Oh, thank you very much, Mark, I appreciate it"



    The above words were said during a rally in Pennsylvania, on Saturday, September 4, 2022. nearly two years after fired former federal employee Donald J. Trump lost the 2020 election by over 7 million votes (and 74 electoral votes), and nearly 20 months after he was evicted from The White House.



    Trump did dine with Zuckerberg and Peter Thiel at The White House in 2019. According to Meta, the dinner invitation came from Trump.



    "Time shifting" is a pretty common thing in later-stage dementia.



    Mike


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MIKE MILLER on Tue Sep 6 18:13:00 2022
    "Time shifting" is a pretty common thing in later-stage dementia.

    Trump is, as you pointed out, no longer President, so it is not as much of
    a concern as, say, someone who is President that has also showed clear
    signs of experiencing "time shifting" and other common things in
    later-stage dementia.


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Mike Powell on Tue Sep 6 17:37:02 2022
    Hello Mike!

    06 Sep 22 18:13, you wrote to me:

    "Time shifting" is a pretty common thing in later-stage dementia.

    Trump is, as you pointed out, no longer President, so it is not as
    much of a concern as, say, someone who is President that has also
    showed clear signs of experiencing "time shifting" and other common
    things in later-stage dementia.


    has he though? other than some vocal slip-ups, mumbled words (which could be related to his stutter), and forgetting where he was while talking (which I do quite often), I've never seen any signs of "time shifting" where he thinks he's still Obama's Vice President or anything.


    And it's defnitely concerning when nearly half of the voting population of the country wants him to be president again. (and a much smaller, but far more vocal percentage thinks he still _is_ president)




    Mike


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Tue Sep 6 18:04:17 2022
    On 06 Sep 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    "Time shifting" is a pretty common thing in later-stage dementia.
    Trump is, as you pointed out, no longer President, so it is not as much
    of a concern as, say, someone who is President that has also showed clear signs of experiencing "time shifting" and other common things in later-stage dementia.

    Trump is eligible to run again in 2024 and has hinted strongly that he
    intends to do so.

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MIKE MILLER on Wed Sep 7 15:35:00 2022
    "Time shifting" is a pretty common thing in later-stage dementia.

    Trump is, as you pointed out, no longer President, so it is not as
    much of a concern as, say, someone who is President that has also
    showed clear signs of experiencing "time shifting" and other common things in later-stage dementia.


    has he though? other than some vocal slip-ups, mumbled words (which could be
    elated to his stutter), and forgetting where he was while talking (which I do ite often), I've never seen any signs of "time shifting" where he thinks he's ill Obama's Vice President or anything.

    He has, at various times, placed his time as vice president in multiple incorrect decades. He has also claimed, at least twice, to have more
    recently spoken to someone than possible (since the person has been dead
    for longer than claimed). Yes, he could be lying some of the time he does
    it.

    He has also at least twice recently attempted to shake hands with thin air.

    And it's defnitely concerning when nearly half of the voting population of the
    ountry wants him to be president again. (and a much smaller, but far more voca
    percentage thinks he still _is_ president)

    A lot can happen between now and November, 2024. If he continues
    displaying such behavior, I would agree it is a concern, but apparently not
    too much of one since the current President's mental state has been in
    question since before the previous election and it apparently doesn't
    bother you that much.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Wed Sep 7 16:31:00 2022
    "Time shifting" is a pretty common thing in later-stage dementia.
    Trump is, as you pointed out, no longer President, so it is not as much of a concern as, say, someone who is President that has also showed clear
    signs of experiencing "time shifting" and other common things in later-stage dementia.

    Trump is eligible to run again in 2024 and has hinted strongly that he intends to do so.

    There is a lot of time between now and November, 2024, for any cognative
    issues Trump has to come to light and change people's minds.

    OTOH, the person I brought up as a bigger concern is currently in the office, has also hinted strongly that he will run in 2024, and was displaying
    cognative decline symptoms before November, 2020.

    I mean, if it is enough to be of concern and disqualify a *potential* Republican candidate, shoudn't it also be of concern for a *sitting*
    President, and disqualify someone as a potential candidate from any party?

    Or is dementia another one of those double-standard issues?


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Wed Sep 7 16:21:25 2022
    On 07 Sep 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    Trump is eligible to run again in 2024 and has hinted strongly that he intends to do so.
    There is a lot of time between now and November, 2024, for any cognative issues Trump has to come to light and change people's minds.

    Would it, though?

    OTOH, the person I brought up as a bigger concern is currently in the office, has also hinted strongly that he will run in 2024, and was displaying cognative decline symptoms before November, 2020.

    Trump was declining while he was in office, too.

    I mean, if it is enough to be of concern and disqualify a *potential* Republican candidate, shoudn't it also be of concern for a *sitting* President, and disqualify someone as a potential candidate from any
    party?

    It should. That is up to Biden's cabinet to decide, as it was up to Trump's cabinet to decide.

    Or is dementia another one of those double-standard issues?

    Nope.

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Thu Sep 8 15:51:00 2022
    I mean, if it is enough to be of concern and disqualify a *potential* Republican candidate, shoudn't it also be of concern for a *sitting* President, and disqualify someone as a potential candidate from any party?

    It should. That is up to Biden's cabinet to decide, as it was up to Trump's cabinet to decide.

    So, if Biden decides to run again, and is showing the same behavior, that
    would disqualify him in your mind, or do we have to depend on his cabinet
    to tell us? We are the ones who vote, not just the President's cabinet.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Thu Sep 8 17:40:30 2022
    On 08 Sep 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    I mean, if it is enough to be of concern and disqualify a *potentia Republican candidate, shoudn't it also be of concern for a *sitting President, and disqualify someone as a potential candidate from any party?
    It should. That is up to Biden's cabinet to decide, as it was up to Trum cabinet to decide.
    So, if Biden decides to run again, and is showing the same behavior, that would disqualify him in your mind, or do we have to depend on his cabinet to tell us? We are the ones who vote, not just the President's cabinet.

    That would depend on who he was running against.

    Jeff.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Fri Sep 9 06:16:10 2022
    Hello Mike,

    I mean, if it is enough to be of concern and disqualify a *potential*
    Republican candidate, shoudn't it also be of concern for a *sitting*
    President, and disqualify someone as a potential candidate from any
    party?

    It should. That is up to Biden's cabinet to decide, as it was up to
    Trump's
    cabinet to decide.

    So, if Biden decides to run again, and is showing the same behavior, that would disqualify him in your mind, or do we have to depend on his cabinet to tell us? We are the ones who vote, not just the President's cabinet.

    Biden 48%
    Trump 42%

    Yahoo News/YouGov Survey
    Sept 2 to Sept 6, 2022

    Imagine that. Biden trouncing Trump by 50 million votes in 2024.

    A likely scenario, given the most recent polls.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Fri Sep 9 17:38:00 2022
    I mean, if it is enough to be of concern and disqualify a *potenti
    Republican candidate, shoudn't it also be of concern for a *sittin
    President, and disqualify someone as a potential candidate from an
    party?
    It should. That is up to Biden's cabinet to decide, as it was up to Tru
    cabinet to decide.
    So, if Biden decides to run again, and is showing the same behavior, that
    would disqualify him in your mind, or do we have to depend on his cabinet
    to tell us? We are the ones who vote, not just the President's cabinet.

    That would depend on who he was running against.

    Then whether or not Biden, or Trump, is senile is a non-issue for one of us.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Wed Sep 14 08:29:18 2022
    On 09 Sep 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    That would depend on who he was running against.
    Then whether or not Biden, or Trump, is senile is a non-issue for one of us.

    A senile president can be replaced much more easily than a non-senile one, should the need arise.

    Jeff.

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