• Frampton Comes Alive

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to ALL on Tue Mar 28 17:59:44 2023
    Hello Everybody,

    With *NO* apologies to anybody in this forum -

    Frampton: 'It IS the 'f***ing guns!'

    Peter Frampton @peterframpton
    I have posted this before but ..

    26 years ago, a gunman entered
    Dunblane Primary School in Scotland,
    killing 16 kids and a teacher. The UK
    govt responded by enacting tight gun
    control legislation. In the 9400+ days
    since, there have been a total of O
    school shootings in the UK.

    Peter Frampton @peterframpton
    School shooting in Nashville pre k through 6th grade.
    Children, babies!!! It IS the fucking guns!

    Frampton comes alive. When will everybody else?

    "We love our guns!" Kids and adults alike!
    Nashville yesterday, someplace else tomorrow!
    What does it matter? We love our guns!

    This was a child being an adult-killer rather
    than an adult being a baby-killer. Not that it
    matters. We are all killers in the world we
    live in, "the land of the free and the home of
    the brave?"

    Three adults, three children. And we all know
    the reason why. "We love our guns!"

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Mar 28 23:41:39 2023
    Peter Frampton @peterframpton

    Thanks, I will add Peter Frampton to the list of celebrities who know it all.

    It ain't the guns; it's the schools' lack of security. Did you notice that in courthouses, they have metal detection? That's because they don't want their precious judges to get shot. But we don't do the same thing at schools because.... we need money for Ukraine or something stupid like that?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Mar 29 22:34:26 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Peter Frampton @peterframpton

    Thanks, I will add Peter Frampton to the list of celebrities who know it all.

    "Do you feel like I do?" That is the question Peter asked his entire
    audience of followers. He also asked all to "Show me the way" - which
    they gladly did.

    It ain't the guns;

    Yes, it is. Which is why guns should be banned. Especially guns that
    kill people. Such as assault-style AR-15 guns, easily handled by those
    will little or no experience.

    it's the schools' lack of security.

    Three adults and three children were killed in the school shooting
    in Nashville. Not counting the 28-year-old nutcase who shot them. With
    seven guns all bought legally. This was done not due to lack of school security, but because of easily bought weapons of mass destruction.

    Did you notice that in courthouses, they have metal detection?

    Did that stop any of the insurrectionists of January 6 from doing
    their thing? Nope. Did that save the lives of any of the 5 adults who
    were killed on that fateful day? Nope. Did that stop the POTUS from
    inciting the riot that occurred? Nope.

    Had assault-style weapons been banned, the nutcase who murdered six
    people most likely would not have been able to legally purchase any of
    the assualt-style weapons she had with her. Or any other weapons had
    real laws been passed banning nutcases from owning or having any such
    weapoon in their possession.

    That's because they don't want their precious judges to get shot.

    Nobody should want anybody to be shot. Even if they deserve it.

    But we don't do the same thing at schools because....

    There is no excuse. Murder is murder. No child or adult deserves to
    die. Not even those who are bona fide nutcases.

    we need money for Ukraine or something stupid like that?

    Thanks for showing how much you care about human life.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Mar 30 07:49:56 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

    It ain't the guns; it's the schools' lack of security.

    And the fact that they are "gun free zones". These ignorant elistists ignore basic facts that go against their Narrative. Facts like "criminals don't obey laws." And, of course, those teachers who have CCWs can't carry when at work.

    Did you notice
    that in courthouses, they have metal detection? That's because they
    don't want their precious judges to get shot. But we don't do the same thing at schools because....

    We used to in some high crime schools.

    But I think we stopped because of "racism" or the fact that it was making schools seem more like the prisons that they were becomming.

    we need money for Ukraine or something
    stupid like that?

    It's like these people never read Atlas Shrugged.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Ron L. on Fri Mar 31 01:10:28 2023
    It ain't the guns; it's the schools' lack of security.

    And the fact that they are "gun free zones". These ignorant elistists ignore basic facts that go against their Narrative. Facts like

    Biden fits into that category. He's got thick security wrapped around him, while kids in public schools don't. Then he's got the audacity to say that "Republicans are the problem because they won't ban guns."

    that in courthouses, they have metal detection? That's because they don't want their precious judges to get shot. But we don't do the sam thing at schools because....

    We used to in some high crime schools.

    But I think we stopped because of "racism" or the fact that it was making schools seem more like the prisons that they were becomming.

    My city's high school used to enforce metal detection but they stopped. It irritates me; what sense does it make to stop doing it?

    I'd like to tell anyone using that "prisonlike" argument that it's even more "prisonlike" to force kids to go to school with inadequate security.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Fri Mar 31 13:30:00 2023
    Biden fits into that category. He's got thick security wrapped around him, while kids in public schools don't. Then he's got the audacity to say that "Republicans are the problem because they won't ban guns."

    His reaction to questions regarding the Nashville shooting was to crack a
    joke.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 1 08:32:43 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Biden fits into that category. He's got thick security wrapped around
    him, while kids in public schools don't. Then he's got the audacity to
    say that "Republicans are the problem because they won't ban guns."

    ALL Elitists have this problem. Their Narrative is true - no matter how many facts show it's not.

    As for Biden, he doesn't even know what day it is and he does/days what his handlers tell him.

    My city's high school used to enforce metal detection but they stopped.
    It irritates me; what sense does it make to stop doing it?

    As I recall (so this is from my admittedly faulty memory), some kids were coming in with innocent metal things just to hold up the line. "Sorry I'm late. Some kid bought in a bunch of salad spoons."

    Then things changed where kids were legitimately bringing in things that set the metal detectors off.

    I think it all got to be too big a mess.

    I'd like to tell anyone using that "prisonlike" argument that it's even more "prisonlike" to force kids to go to school with inadequate
    security.

    I agree. But the Elitists don't want school security. If they did, they would eliminate "gun free zones" and allow teachers to carry concealed.

    But they
    1. Don't want to go against the Narrative.
    2. Make schools safe because it gives them excuses to push for "gun control".


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Sat Apr 1 16:07:18 2023
    Hello Mike,

    Biden fits into that category. He's got thick security wrapped around him,
    while kids in public schools don't. Then he's got the audacity to say that
    "Republicans are the problem because they won't ban guns."

    His reaction to questions regarding the Nashville shooting was to crack a joke.

    The President placed the blame on those who are responsible for
    doing nothing to fix the problem - Republicans.

    He was not joking then, and he is not joking now.

    President has renewed his call for gun control.
    Noting who, or what, the problem is.
    He will not stop until he gets what he wants.
    No matter how long, or how often, Republicans object.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Apr 1 19:26:23 2023
    President has renewed his call for gun control.
    Noting who, or what, the problem is.
    He will not stop until he gets what he wants.
    No matter how long, or how often, Republicans object.

    In poll after poll, around 80% of the US people supports that.

    Anyone with at least a minimum of knowledge supports it.

    It was after the GOP in 2005 repealed the law against assault weapons, that the mass shootings really took of, as can be seen in this graph, where the red line marks the turning point:

    http://eljaco.se/Guns.jpg

    As I said:
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Sat Apr 1 13:11:50 2023
    Biden fits into that category. He's got thick security wrapped around hi while kids in public schools don't. Then he's got the audacity to say th "Republicans are the problem because they won't ban guns."

    His reaction to questions regarding the Nashville shooting was to crack a joke.

    It should be written in history books that Joe's response to children being murdered is "chocolate chip ice cream." It's similar to his response to the 11 children he murdered in Afghanistan.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Ron L. on Sat Apr 1 15:18:39 2023
    coming in with innocent metal things just to hold up the line. "Sorry
    I'm late. Some kid bought in a bunch of salad spoons."

    I would be cautious about trusting people in charge if they are dismissing metal detectors for reasons like those. If it works in courts or at airports, it can work anywhere.

    I agree. But the Elitists don't want school security. If they did,
    they would eliminate "gun free zones" and allow teachers to carry concealed.

    I get that. "Gun Control" is a fun game for Democrats just like "Climate Change." Fixing it would ruin all their fun. Now is a perfect time for Republicans in congress to draft a bill for security in public schools, and they can call it "gun control" to put in the Democrats faces.

    But is our wonderful GOP house just full of dim witted career opportunists? Maybe more worried about the next 2 years that about anything else?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Mar 29 23:19:08 2023
    It ain't the guns;

    Yes, it is. Which is why guns should be banned. Especially guns that
    kill people. Such as assault-style AR-15 guns, easily handled by those will little or no experience.

    Despite being "banned," opioids continue to kill people.

    Did you notice that in courthouses, they have metal detection?

    Did that stop any of the insurrectionists of January 6 from doing
    their thing? Nope. Did that save the lives of any of the 5 adults who
    were killed on that fateful day? Nope. Did that stop the POTUS from inciting the riot that occurred? Nope.

    The security sucked. They should have shot all those "insurrectionists."

    Had assault-style weapons been banned, the nutcase who murdered six
    people most likely would not have been able to legally purchase any of

    A ban will slightly reducde the probability, but to fix the problem completely, we need the metal detectors and 2 armed officers at every school.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Apr 2 08:42:07 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I would be cautious about trusting people in charge if they are
    dismissing metal detectors for reasons like those.

    Long ago, I stopped trusting those in charge without verification from a reliable source.

    If it works in courts or at airports, it can work anywhere.

    It probably can work. But the Elitists in charge will make sure it doesn't.

    I get that. "Gun Control" is a fun game for Democrats just like
    "Climate Change." Fixing it would ruin all their fun. Now is a perfect time for Republicans in congress to draft a bill for security in public schools, and they can call it "gun control" to put in the Democrats
    faces.

    That would be a good idea. But the Republicans are almost as bad.

    I don't expect to see anything that useful out of them.

    But is our wonderful GOP house just full of dim witted career opportunists? Maybe more worried about the next 2 years that about anything else?

    It's a mix. Some of them are Elitists - just like 99% of the Democrats. Others are just there to suck off the gov't teat until they retire with a big pension and war chest.

    I don't have any faith that the gov't will solve anything since they are most of the problem.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Wed Apr 5 09:37:32 2023
    The security sucked. They should have shot all those "insurrectionists."

    But they weren't interested in security. They were interested in
    creating a Narrative.

    You're right! Had they shot them, then it would have been "White Trump Supporters Victims of Police Brutality!" The left enjoys more "White Trump Supporters Tried to Overthrow the Government!" And surely that's the way that most people remember it.

    A ban will slightly reducde the probability, but to fix the problem completely, we need the metal detectors and 2 armed officers at every school.

    And armed teachers (since the "security officer" at Stoneman Douglas High School just ran away when a shooter entered).

    Yea I don't want just a couple dopes from Securitas, I want real armed police officers. It's gonna be expensive, but it's either that or it's surrender to
    the school shooters.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Apr 6 00:28:02 2023
    On 04-05-23 09:37, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Ron L. about Re: Frampton Comes Alive <=-

    And armed teachers (since the "security officer" at Stoneman Douglas High School just ran away when a shooter entered).

    Armed teachers is a non starter.

    Yea I don't want just a couple dopes from Securitas, I want
    real armed police officers. It's gonna be expensive, but
    it's either that or it's surrender to
    the school shooters.

    It would help if we could ban the AR style rifles that are the weapons
    of choice for mass murder (and not much else).

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Dale Shipp on Thu Apr 6 20:41:37 2023
    Yea I don't want just a couple dopes from Securitas, I want
    real armed police officers. It's gonna be expensive, but
    it's either that or it's surrender to
    the school shooters.

    It would help if we could ban the AR style rifles that are the weapons
    of choice for mass murder (and not much else).

    A gun is a gun. They're all deadly. Do you want to cut down on the number of school shootings, or do you want to stop school shootings altogether?

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Apr 7 00:12:02 2023
    On 04-06-23 20:41, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Frampton Comes Alive <=-


    Yea I don't want just a couple dopes from Securitas, I want
    real armed police officers. It's gonna be expensive, but
    it's either that or it's surrender to
    the school shooters.

    It would help if we could ban the AR style rifles that are the weapons
    of choice for mass murder (and not much else).

    A gun is a gun. They're all deadly. Do you want to cut down
    on the number of school shootings, or do you want to stop
    school shootings altogether?

    Both, if possible. Plus cut down on the deadly effects of using an AR15.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Apr 7 07:28:41 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    A gun is a gun. They're all deadly. Do you want to cut down on the
    number of school shootings, or do you want to stop school shootings altogether?

    He wants to push his delusional Narrative. The Narrative that disregards human nature and facts.

    In the clown world of the Ignorant Elitists criminals obey laws (even though any 3 year old knows that's absurd) and that if no one (except the "correct" people) have guns, then no one will get hurt. Even though there are hundreds of other ways to do mass killings.

    It's the Ignorant Elitists false belief that they can make the world completely safe by giving up all their freedom.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Apr 7 13:46:31 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    It ain't the guns;

    Yes, it is. Which is why guns should be banned. Especially guns that
    kill people. Such as assault-style AR-15 guns, easily handled by
    those
    will little or no experience.

    Despite being "banned," opioids continue to kill people.

    Easy access to guns is the main cause of people dying needlessly.

    Did you notice that in courthouses, they have metal detection?

    Did that stop any of the insurrectionists of January 6 from doing
    their thing? Nope. Did that save the lives of any of the 5 adults who
    were killed on that fateful day? Nope. Did that stop the POTUS from
    inciting the riot that occurred? Nope.

    The security sucked. They should have shot all those "insurrectionists."

    The main instigator was President Trump, who broke his oath of office
    in so doing. Better to have him tried and convicted, making sure he has
    the best medical care this planet can offer.

    Since I am opposed to all acts of violence, including having those
    who are guilty being shot, I must strongly object to anyone and every
    one who would like to have a president or any other politician shot.
    Even if they deserve it.

    Had assault-style weapons been banned, the nutcase who murdered six
    people most likely would not have been able to legally purchase any of

    A ban will slightly reducde the probability,

    The probability would become virtually nonexistent.

    but to fix the problem completely, we need the metal detectors and 2 armed officers at every school.

    GWB had plenty of warning by intelligence agencies about the dangers
    of terrorists using airplanes as weapons of mass destruction. Yet he
    chose to do nothing to prevent such incidents from happaneing. Then
    came 9/11 - to the horror of all, but to the surprise of none in the intelligence community.

    It takes no intelligence at all to know semi-automatics such as
    AR-15s have no business being in the hands of civilians - or children.
    And yet look at how many mass shootings occur, and what types of
    weapons are chosen. And we make it so easy for folks to get them.

    Easy access to guns is the problem, and will always remain the problem,
    for as long as we choose to do nothing about it. What that means is
    people will continue to die, needlessly, because nobody gives a shit
    about human life in our sick society.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Fri Apr 7 13:47:05 2023
    Hello Dale,

    And armed teachers (since the "security officer" at Stoneman Douglas
    High
    School just ran away when a shooter entered).

    Armed teachers is a non starter.

    32 states allow it, including concealed carry. So why not all?
    Or better yet, allowing students to also carry, including conceal,
    thus putting an end to mass shootings before they even get started.
    That would be great for parents never having to worry about their
    children's safety and well-being ...

    Yea I don't want just a couple dopes from Securitas, I want
    real armed police officers. It's gonna be expensive, but
    it's either that or it's surrender to
    the school shooters.

    It would help if we could ban the AR style rifles that are the weapons
    of choice for mass murder (and not much else).

    Guns don't kill people. People with guns do. Which is why everybody
    should be armed. That way, every single person, including children,
    will be protected from killing each other.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Dale Shipp on Fri Apr 7 14:46:26 2023
    A gun is a gun. They're all deadly. Do you want to cut down
    on the number of school shootings, or do you want to stop
    school shootings altogether?

    Both, if possible. Plus cut down on the deadly effects of using an AR15.

    I've probably said this before, but fentanyl is deadly, and it's already banned, yet it still kills people.

    We could do the same thing with AR15s. They're deadly, we'll ban them, and they'll still kill people.

    How about tougher security in schools? Or how about home schooling?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Fri Apr 7 14:53:33 2023
    In the clown world of the Ignorant Elitists criminals obey laws (even though any 3 year old knows that's absurd) and that if no one (except
    the "correct" people) have guns, then no one will get hurt. Even though there are hundreds of other ways to do mass killings.

    I suspect that some people are addicted to the media, and deep down, subconsciously, they're even addicted to these school shooting stories.

    If we eliminate school shootings, then television viewers are gonna lose their erections. But if we curb the shootings, they're still gonna have lots of "enjoyable" stories to read.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Apr 7 15:02:16 2023
    Despite being "banned," opioids continue to kill people.

    Easy access to guns is the main cause of people dying needlessly.

    We've already tried controlling access, and it didn't work. The definition of insanity is to keep trying it some more.

    A ban will slightly reducde the probability,

    The probability would become virtually nonexistent.

    We need to make the POSSIBILITY nonexistent.

    GWB had plenty of warning by intelligence agencies about the dangers
    of terrorists using airplanes as weapons of mass destruction. Yet he

    Yea but warnings aren't what we need. We need metal detection and armed officers at each and every school.

    Easy access to guns is the problem, and will always remain the problem, for as long as we choose to do nothing about it. What that means is
    people will continue to die, needlessly, because nobody gives a shit
    about human life in our sick society.

    You're 1/2 right. But the real fix involves taking away from of the American taxpayers' hard-earned cash away from Democrats/Zelensky and investing it in school security.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 8 00:19:00 2023
    On 04-07-23 14:46, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Frampton Comes Alive <=-


    A gun is a gun. They're all deadly. Do you want to cut down
    on the number of school shootings, or do you want to stop
    school shootings altogether?

    Both, if possible. Plus cut down on the deadly effects of using an AR15.

    I've probably said this before, but fentanyl is deadly, and
    it's already banned, yet it still kills people.

    It would kill a lot more if it were legal and widely distributed. The
    fact that it is illegal and that those who distribute it are prosecuted
    goes a long way to reducing such deaths.

    We could do the same thing with AR15s. They're deadly,
    we'll ban them, and they'll still kill people.

    It has been proven that if they are banned, then fewer people are killed
    by mass shootings.

    How about tougher security in schools? Or how about home schooling?

    Tougher security in schools would help, but it would come at a cost.

    Home schooling is not for everyone. Can you teach your children basic
    math, reading, history, civics? I know that I could not. I could not
    teach k-12 math, even though I could teach college math.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 8 08:27:21 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I suspect that some people are addicted to the media,

    They have been trained to only accept the Propaganda Ministry...er.. media as the only source of truth.

    and deep down,
    subconsciously, they're even addicted to these school shooting stories.

    Their whole thinking process is based on feelings/emotions. Drama is candy to them.

    If we eliminate school shootings, then television viewers are gonna
    lose their erections. But if we curb the shootings, they're still gonna have lots of "enjoyable" stories to read.

    More like if we eliminate school shootings, they won't have much to exploit for their "gun control" Narrative.

    Elitist-run cities generate many "mostly peaceful" stories that will satisfy their cravings - unless they happen to live in those cities.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 8 20:49:16 2023
    Hello Aaron,

    Despite being "banned," opioids continue to kill people.

    Easy access to guns is the main cause of people dying needlessly.

    We've already tried controlling access, and it didn't work.

    The 10-year ban on semi-automatics worked quite well, until Republicans
    decided to let it lapse.

    The definition of insanity is to keep trying it some more.

    President Biden's proposal is better than the last time this was
    done, as all the loopholes have been removed.

    A ban will slightly reducde the probability,

    The probability would become virtually nonexistent.

    We need to make the POSSIBILITY nonexistent.

    Japan is the only nation on earth that actually did give up guns.
    But unfortunately had to take them up again when other countries
    tried to invade. And then we know what happened next. Pearl Harbor
    and WWII ...

    GWB had plenty of warning by intelligence agencies about the dangers
    of terrorists using airplanes as weapons of mass destruction. Yet he

    Yea but warnings aren't what we need.

    Such warnings did no good as GWB refused to listen.

    We need metal detection and armed officers at each and every school.

    The school in Nashville had a "gun free zone" - and yet a mass shooting
    still occurred. The only reason more adults and children were not killed
    was because of the quick action of law enforcement - which killed the
    shooter dead within seconds of arriving at the school.

    Easy access to guns is the problem, and will always remain the problem,
    for as long as we choose to do nothing about it. What that means is
    people will continue to die, needlessly, because nobody gives a shit
    about human life in our sick society.

    You're 1/2 right.

    The shooter had two semi-automaticn weapons - both bought legally -
    which were used to kill six people, three of them children. These
    weapons are made for one purpose, and one purpose only - to kill
    people. Now you tell me, what other gun would you like to be shot
    with?

    But the real fix involves taking away from of the American taxpayers' hard-earned cash away from Democrats/Zelensky and investing it in school security.

    Raising the white flag to an indicted fugitive (Putin) is not what
    this country does, or is all about.

    Back to the subject at hand -

    If there is a gun you are comfortable with getting shot with, please
    show me which one it is. Seems to me all those mass murderers have a
    particular favorite as to which one(s) they like to use.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ron L. on Sun Apr 9 14:55:02 2023
    On 04-08-23 08:27, Ron L. <=-
    spoke to Aaron Thomas about Re: Frampton Comes Alive <=-


    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I suspect that some people are addicted to the media,

    They have been trained to only accept the Propaganda Ministry...er..
    media as the only source of truth.

    Their whole thinking process is based on feelings/emotions. Drama is candy to them.

    Once again, you give a very good description of the MAGA wing of the
    Republican party.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ron L. on Sun Apr 9 15:31:04 2023
    On 04-08-23 08:27, Ron L. <=-
    spoke to Aaron Thomas about Re: Frampton Comes Alive <=-

    I've probably said this before, but fentanyl is deadly, and it's
    already banned, yet it still kills people.

    And we tried banning alcohol - which kills people too - and ended up
    with even more people getting killed.

    That was a failed thing caused by the religious right. It was
    eventually rejected. We are currently in another thing caused by the
    religious right in their attempt to ban a big portion of woman's health
    care. Hopefully, that too will get rejected before too many women are
    killed.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Dale Shipp on Mon Apr 10 10:25:23 2023
    It would kill a lot more if it were legal and widely distributed. The fact that it is illegal and that those who distribute it are prosecuted goes a long way to reducing such deaths.

    That's what it seems like but neither of us know that for a fact.

    We could do the same thing with AR15s. They're deadly,
    we'll ban them, and they'll still kill people.

    It has been proven that if they are banned, then fewer people are killed by mass shootings.

    Proven by hypothetical statistics?

    How about tougher security in schools? Or how about home schooling?

    Tougher security in schools would help, but it would come at a cost.

    Wouldn't you agree that we can afford it? If there's money for climate change, and there's money for women's rights in Pakistan, then I think it's safe to assume that there's enough money for school security as well.

    Home schooling is not for everyone. Can you teach your children basic

    The quality of a home schooling education is less important than the lack of security in schools. I'd be willing to homeschool my kids, but they just don't want it.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Mon Apr 10 10:34:38 2023
    have lots of "enjoyable" stories to read.

    More like if we eliminate school shootings, they won't have much to exploit for their "gun control" Narrative.

    The "gun control" fairy tale probably gives the leftists a sense of security, while they're pressing everyone's buttons.

    "We need 10 trillion dollars for fake infrastructure and 10 trillion more for our friend Zelensky.." All that nonsense is going to backfire someday when the taxpayers finally begin to use non-media derived logic.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Mon Apr 10 10:44:14 2023
    Tougher security would mean having to spend more school budget on competent school security (as opposed to the kind that just run out of
    the school when a shooter is present) and that would mean they would
    have less to indoctrinate our kids.

    Good point! There's no valid excuse for not bolstering security in schools immediately. Watch those slithering leftists squirm away from the podium when people start demanding it. You know they will!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Apr 10 10:49:47 2023
    We need metal detection and armed officers at each and every school.

    The school in Nashville had a "gun free zone" - and yet a mass shooting still occurred. The only reason more adults and children were not killed was because of the quick action of law enforcement - which killed the shooter dead within seconds of arriving at the school.

    You know what a "gun free school zone" is, right? It's a metal sign that's similar to a bus stop sign. The only difference is that the bus stop sign really means something.

    The shooter had two semi-automaticn weapons - both bought legally -
    which were used to kill six people, three of them children. These
    weapons are made for one purpose, and one purpose only - to kill
    people. Now you tell me, what other gun would you like to be shot
    with?

    One that doesn't set off a metal detector, and one that uses bullets that don't set it off either.

    But the real fix involves taking away from of the American taxpayers' hard-earned cash away from Democrats/Zelensky and investing it in sch security.

    Raising the white flag to an indicted fugitive (Putin) is not what
    this country does, or is all about.

    Why not? Obama did it. And it didn't even cost the taxpayers any money.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Apr 11 07:30:40 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Good point! There's no valid excuse for not bolstering security in
    schools immediately. Watch those slithering leftists squirm away from
    the podium when people start demanding it. You know they will!

    Of course. That's their norm. Put a finger up and see which way the wind is blowing. Then talk like that's what they want. But then hide when people start asking why they aren't heading that way.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:123/525 to Ron L. on Sat Apr 15 09:30:21 2023
    It has been proven that if they are banned, then fewer people are kil by mass shootings.

    Proven by hypothetical statistics?

    John Lott, Jr. has already debunked all the gun control narratives and
    his books are quite readable.

    I think lower-level-leftists will defend the "costs too much to save kids" narrative on behalf of the higher-level-leftists. When they say stuff like that, it gives BIG spenders like Joe Biden & Joe Manchin the wiggle room they need to scamper off with the jackpot.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 15 16:04:22 2023
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I think lower-level-leftists will defend the "costs too much to save
    kids" narrative on behalf of the higher-level-leftists.

    That's pretty obvious. The top people are usually hidden behind several layers of patsies to take the blame for the bad decisions made by the top people.

    For example, I found out today that the "expert doctors" who cheered for the COVID lock downs, masks and jabs have pretty much disappeared from view. Good example of a bunch of patsies to push the Narrative and then disappear from public view when the facts come to light.

    (For those who don't know: patsy (noun) A person easily taken advantage of, cheated, blamed, or ridiculed.)

    When they say
    stuff like that, it gives BIG spenders like Joe Biden & Joe Manchin the wiggle room they need to scamper off with the jackpot.

    That's their job: Play blocker for the Big Guy, distract away from the facts.

    But remember that Biden is a patsy too. The Biden Crime Family, and whoever is leading that, (Jill? Hunter? Neither have enough brains.) are the ones scampering off with the jackpot.

    But I will assert that the goal here is power, not money. The higher level patsies are getting the money to do what their masters tell them. The real puppet masters don't care about the money.


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