• Legacy Media

    From IB Joe@1:342/200 to All on Wed Jun 7 10:20:06 2023
    Doug Tinaple, a video blogger on social media explains why CNN, and the like, are on their way out!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcrPc5-7JTM

    Enjoy!!!

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 7 10:42:02 2023
    Doug Tinaple, a video blogger on social media explains why CNN, and the like, are on their way out!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcrPc5-7JTM

    Enjoy!!!

    That's just silly.

    I wouldn't mind if he ended CNN actually, but that's just silly.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wed Jun 7 12:18:58 2023
    On 07 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcrPc5-7JTM

    Enjoy!!!

    That's just silly.

    I wouldn't mind if he ended CNN actually, but that's just silly.


    Why is that silly... CNN's ratings are live 400,000 viewers ... One man gets ~64,000.000 views in less than a day. I think, hope, that we are moving away from the legacy media and moving towards independent hosts such as Tucker's current form..

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 7 12:35:40 2023
    I wouldn't mind if he ended CNN actually, but that's just silly.

    Why is that silly... CNN's ratings are live 400,000 viewers ...

    No kidding, CNN is almost dead already.

    One man gets ~64,000.000 views in less than a day. I think, hope, that we are moving away from the legacy media and moving towards independent hosts such as Tucker's current form..

    I was never one to watch tucker before he was fired and I'm not likely to go looking now.

    I did go have a look out of curiosity though, that lasted about 15 seconds.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Wed Jun 7 17:01:00 2023
    Why is that silly... CNN's ratings are live 400,000 viewers ... One man gets

    ,000.000 views in less than a day. I think, hope, that we are moving away
    ro
    the legacy media and moving towards independent hosts such as Tucker's
    urrent
    orm..

    I am no fan of CNN, but relying on individuals (who are their own bosses
    and cannot easily be held accountable for their content) sounds like a dangerous path to start down.

    There are at least two people in this echo I'd not want becoming source of
    "the news" for starters. :)


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wed Jun 7 18:07:33 2023
    On 07 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    No kidding, CNN is almost dead already.

    We're keeping them alive by talking about their demise.

    I was never one to watch tucker before he was fired and I'm not likely
    to go looking now.

    I did go have a look out of curiosity though, that lasted about 15 seconds.

    And you don't have to be... Megan Kelly, ex-Fox, has a social media pod cast... there are a lot of people out there.. Viva Frei a Canadian Lawyer who now resides in the great state of Florida... Teams up with Robert Barnes, US constitutional lawyer to explain the goings on of US and Canada.

    There are several credible people out there that don't give you the legacy news narrative.

    These independence are killing cable news.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 7 18:19:58 2023
    And you don't have to be... Megan Kelly, ex-Fox, has a social media pod cast.. there are a lot of people out there.. Viva Frei a Canadian Lawyer who now resides in the great state of Florida... Teams up with Robert Barnes, US constitutional lawyer to explain the goings on of US and Canada.

    Social media is not news. People can and do say whatever is on their mind regardless of the facts.

    There are several credible people out there that don't give you the legacy new narrative.

    I'm not sure what you are saying.

    These independence are killing cable news.

    Journalism is important, it is not entertainment.

    When I watch the news I want facts without bias. Not "fake news" as Donald Trump always says.

    Lots of what is presented on news stations is often an opinion piece and that is OK to as long as it is not presented as fact.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Thu Jun 8 07:27:22 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to IB JOE <=-

    I am no fan of CNN, but relying on individuals (who are their own
    bosses and cannot easily be held accountable for their content) sounds like a dangerous path to start down.

    "Start down"? That's what we have today. We have one person, or a very small group of people, who are deciding what "the news" is. Then Propaganda Ministry...er... Mainstream Media simply echo/amplyify that "news".

    There's been a huge number of memes on YouTube showing how all the "news" sources were using the EXACT SAME LANGUAGE to report on certain stories.

    This is how they've been bypassing our BS filters all this time. If we hear something that doesn't sit right from 1 source, we discount it. But if we hear the same things from several "different" sources, we tend to think it's accurate.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Thu Jun 8 07:50:40 2023
    On 07 Jun 2023, Alan Ianson said the following...


    Social media is not news. People can and do say whatever is on their mind regardless of the facts.


    Or is the legacy media... There are a lot of good people out there Bill O'Reilly... Megan Kelly.... Now Tucker Carlson... These are just a few that don't have to spin the narrative of the day for the lizard people. I wasn't implying that you get your news from a meme I posted on Facebook


    There are several credible people out there that don't give you the lega new narrative.

    I'm not sure what you are saying.

    See above. Tucker got ~64,000,000 views in less than a day on his 1st post... CNN cannot pull in more than ~400,000 views during prime-time. CNN CEO just step down because their ratings suck. What CNN et al. are finding out is that people are stepping out and going elsewhere to get what they think is a better product.


    Journalism is important, it is not entertainment.

    When I watch the news I want facts without bias. Not "fake news" as
    Donald Trump always says.

    Lots of what is presented on news stations is often an opinion piece and that is OK to as long as it is not presented as fact.


    Journalism is dead in 2023. It's had to find anything that is not opinion driven.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 8 10:45:38 2023
    Journalism is dead in 2023. It's had to find anything that is not opinion driven.

    Journalism is alive and well. Maybe you want to be entertained.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Thu Jun 8 18:36:00 2023
    s in the great state of Florida... Teams up with Robert Barnes, US
    onstitutio
    l lawyer to explain the goings on of US and Canada.

    Please share more about what they say about Canada, because Al never will
    and I am curious about what our neighbors are up to.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Thu Jun 8 18:49:00 2023
    I am no fan of CNN, but relying on individuals (who are their own
    bosses and cannot easily be held accountable for their content) sounds like a dangerous path to start down.

    "Start down"? That's what we have today. We have one person, or a very
    mall
    group of people, who are deciding what "the news" is. Then Propaganda Ministry...er... Mainstream Media simply echo/amplyify that "news".

    Technically, that small group of people can be held accountable when their masters are voted out, or when some members of the media (like Peter Doocy) call them out on their wild claims.

    Also, on some occassions, even the Propaganda Ministry/MSM holds their employees accountable and fires them when they get caught in outright lies.

    Individuals who present the news on the internet are even less accountable.
    Who fires them when they lie? We can quit listening, I suppose and, if
    they are doing it on YT or FB, they might get yanked (and maybe not for
    good reason!).

    I do not like the current road we are on, either, where the media no longer holds their reporters to the same standards that they used to. Outside of government regulation, which could be a dangerous path of its own, I am not sure how we ever get that back.

    The only thing I can think of is to make the news half-hour/hour a non-commercial time, i.e. they cannot sell commercials for their shows,
    which *might* at least free them from any entanglement with sponsors.

    That would kill cable news networks, though.

    There's been a huge number of memes on YouTube showing how all the "news" sources were using the EXACT SAME LANGUAGE to report on certain stories.

    I have noticed this. On national news items, the local news reports will
    say the same thing the network reporter says later in the hour. It happens
    too often to be coincidence.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Fri Jun 9 07:26:41 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Technically, that small group of people can be held accountable when
    their masters are voted out,

    The problem is that their masters were never voted in - and I'm not talking about the voter fraud. Their masters are NOT the clowns that we see in Congress.

    We've already traced their masters back to the investment groups, using our retirement funds to push their ESG stuff (wouldn't that give them a big incentive to not have us live long?). But who's behind the investment groups is still not clear.

    Also, on some occassions, even the Propaganda Ministry/MSM holds their employees accountable and fires them when they get caught in outright lies.

    I would argue that they are only held accountable when they outlived their usefullness and/or they did a lie that they can't cover up (or didn't mesh with the Narrative they want to spin).

    Individuals who present the news on the internet are even less accountable.
    Who fires them when they lie? We can quit listening, I suppose

    If you don't like a product, stop using it. It's the Capitalistic way.

    I do not like the current road we are on, either, where the media no longer holds their reporters to the same standards that they used to. Outside of government regulation, which could be a dangerous path of
    its own, I am not sure how we ever get that back.

    We do what we are doing now: stop listening and watching.

    It takes time, but it does work. IHMO I think that many 'news' sources are being propped up financially by the people behind the curtains. Those funds are not infinite.

    That would kill cable news networks, though.

    They are already dead.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Fri Jun 9 07:23:29 2023
    On 08 Jun 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    l lawyer to explain the goings on of US and Canada.

    Please share more about what they say about Canada, because Al never will and I am curious about what our neighbors are up to.


    I don't know what I can bring to the mix. I was born and raised in Canada, moved to the US became a citizen, I hold 2 passports and travel freely between the 2 countries. As a side note I have a young daughter who has 3 passports... US, Canada and the Dominican Republic...

    As for Canada I think it's too late. It's funny how Justin's "Father" brought Canada a constitution, prior to 1982 Canada derived most of its freedoms from the Magna Carta, a lot of the US constitution was echoed from that document as well. Anyway, fast forward a few years Trudeau 2.0 gets voted in and he's spent his entire time working to destroy the constitution... like his daddy in Cuba.

    The Youtube channel I mentioned Viva Frei, he was a lawyer, litigator, in Quebec, and became a Youtuber. Recently Canada passed a law where it can regulate the content on the Internet... Viva (David) moved to the United States, Florida, in anticipation of this. He was fortunate to be able to take his family to freedom. Viva's current pod-casts are now 50/50 with Canadian content and US... He's living the life in Florida. His pod-casts usually run over 2 hours, but he later breaks them down on topics later... more manageable.

    Canada has some other Dr. Jordan Peterson, a Psychologist, anti-woke advocate... and Gad Saad... moved from Lebanon as a refugee... Came to Canada in 1975 to escape antisemitism in the area... Gad is thinking of leaving Canada because of what it's became under the Trudeau regime. Glad Saad also has a Youtube channel.

    Canada was the country who discovered insulin. Has the most people per capita attending University... and they voted in, and re-voted in I might add, a globalist into power that wants to destroy the country.

    This current phenomena is a global one... I hope we can pull out of the one-world-order mentality and go back to the freedom loving bitches we once were.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Fri Jun 9 18:49:00 2023
    I would argue that they are only held accountable when they outlived their usefullness and/or they did a lie that they can't cover up (or didn't mesh
    it
    the Narrative they want to spin).

    Or they sexually harrass someone.

    It takes time, but it does work. IHMO I think that many 'news' sources are being propped up financially by the people behind the curtains. Those funds are not infinite.

    It is too bad we cannot get them to keep proping it up and run out sooner.

    Too bad they are not all as stupid as that crypto guy who bankrupted
    himself (but unfortunately also his investors) by being the Democrats' second-highest donor in 2022.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Fri Jun 9 18:49:00 2023
    I don't know what I can bring to the mix. I was born and raised in Canada,
    o
    d to the US became a citizen, I hold 2 passports and travel freely between
    he
    countries. As a side note I have a young daughter who has 3 passports...
    S,
    anada and the Dominican Republic...

    I was thinking you could feel free to repeat some of what you hear from
    Viva Frei.

    As for Canada I think it's too late. It's funny how Justin's "Father"
    rought
    anada a constitution, prior to 1982 Canada derived most of its freedoms from

    Magna Carta, a lot of the US constitution was echoed from that document as
    e
    . Anyway, fast forward a few years Trudeau 2.0 gets voted in and he's spent

    entire time working to destroy the constitution... like his daddy in Cuba.

    That is too bad. Canada is a beautiful place, and most of the people I
    have met from there deserve better.

    The Youtube channel I mentioned Viva Frei, he was a lawyer, litigator, in
    ueb
    , and became a Youtuber. Recently Canada passed a law where it can regulate

    content on the Internet...

    I saw that, but am still not sure how they can implement such a thing.
    Then again, Communist China and North Korea do it, so I guess it can be
    done.

    Canada has some other Dr. Jordan Peterson, a Psychologist, anti-woke
    dvocate.

    I have seen some of his YT videos. He seems pretty sharp.

    Canada was the country who discovered insulin. Has the most people per
    apita
    ttending University... and they voted in, and re-voted in I might add, a
    loba
    st into power that wants to destroy the country.

    I thought most recently that they didn't really vote his party, or him,
    back in but he was able to weasel his way around and use his power as PM to stay in power somehow?

    This current phenomena is a global one... I hope we can pull out of the
    ne-wo
    d-order mentality and go back to the freedom loving bitches we once were.

    Me too. I have been reading some things here and there about what is going
    on in some other European countries where they seem to be turning away from
    the globalism. Here is one example. Poland has always had issues with
    some of the EU requirements, but it is interesting that Sweden is also mentioned. IIRC, they not too long ago took a swing towards a more conservative approach.

    https://youtu.be/QDQHwm65nxk


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Sat Jun 10 00:19:10 2023
    On 06-08-23 18:49, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Ron L. about Re: Legacy Media <=-

    There's been a huge number of memes on YouTube showing how all the "news" sources were using the EXACT SAME LANGUAGE to report on certain stories.

    I have noticed this. On national news items, the local news reports
    will say the same thing the network reporter says later in the hour.
    It happens too often to be coincidence.

    Perhaps that could be because they all are relying on a single (or
    couple) of sources for their information?
    I.e. the (NYT/AP/Reuters/WP) comes out with a report which is news and
    then everyone else says the same thing without giving a reference to the original who broke the story.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sat Jun 10 08:35:06 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Or they sexually harrass someone.

    Ah, yes. "Believe all women" and "MeToo". It's always interesting when Elitist groups fight.

    It is too bad we cannot get them to keep proping it up and run out
    sooner.

    But the longer they prop it up, the sooner they lose their power.

    Too bad they are not all as stupid as that crypto guy who bankrupted himself (but unfortunately also his investors) by being the Democrats' second-highest donor in 2022.

    It would not surprise me if the crypto guy was paid hansomely for funneling all that money to the Dems. He'll lay low for a few year, pick up his cash and then live a quiet, wealthy life.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat Jun 10 08:35:06 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Has the most people per
    capita attending University... and they voted in, and re-voted in I
    might add, a globalist into power that wants to destroy the country.

    Could those two things be related? I wonder.... :)


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Jun 10 10:54:56 2023
    On 09 Jun 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    I saw that, but am still not sure how they can implement such a thing. Then again, Communist China and North Korea do it, so I guess it can be done.


    This is why we call Canada Chinada...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sat Jun 10 11:16:32 2023
    On 10 Jun 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    IB Joe wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    Has the most people per
    capita attending University... and they voted in, and re-voted in I might add, a globalist into power that wants to destroy the country.

    Could those two things be related? I wonder.... :)



    Might be... there was a time I was proud to say I was Canadian... now I just keep it to myself.

    BTW, I went to University back in the day when you could openly debate topics... If they were marking some of my papers today I'd be on the 6 O'clock news talking about how I got an "F" for not towing the line on the accepted narrative...

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DALE SHIPP on Sat Jun 10 14:28:00 2023
    I have noticed this. On national news items, the local news reports will say the same thing the network reporter says later in the hour.
    It happens too often to be coincidence.

    Perhaps that could be because they all are relying on a single (or
    couple) of sources for their information?
    I.e. the (NYT/AP/Reuters/WP) comes out with a report which is news and
    then everyone else says the same thing without giving a reference to the original who broke the story.

    That makes sense, but the TV reporters used to give the source if it was
    not their own (or their network). I remember hearing them mention that
    "The Associated Press/New York Times/etc. has reported that..." I think
    they still do sometimes. I will have to pay more attention but these "same-sounding" reports I do not remember hearing them give any such credit.

    I would think it was a requirement to give credit if the story was not
    theirs.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sat Jun 10 14:29:00 2023
    It would not surprise me if the crypto guy was paid hansomely for funneling
    l
    that money to the Dems. He'll lay low for a few year, pick up his cash and then live a quiet, wealthy life.

    He may have been but last I heard he was under arrest. It does seem to
    have fallen out of the news cycle, though... about the time that the NY DA started threatening to charge Trump. Hmmm....


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sat Jun 10 14:38:00 2023
    Has the most people per
    capita attending University... and they voted in, and re-voted in I might add, a globalist into power that wants to destroy the country.

    Could those two things be related? I wonder.... :)

    If Canadian Universities are like US ones, I would say they could very well
    be related.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sat Jun 10 14:49:00 2023
    BTW, I went to University back in the day when you could openly debate
    opics.
    If they were marking some of my papers today I'd be on the 6 O'clock news
    al
    ng about how I got an "F" for not towing the line on the accepted
    arrative...

    I went to University in the late 1980s - early 1990s. Whether or not you
    could openly debate depended on where you were and whether or not you knew
    your audience. There were a lot of "shout you down" leftists even then.

    I took a political science class. I would expect that throughout a
    semester, one might figure out the leanings of the professor and I did. I would not expect the same thing to happen in an English class, or other
    classes I took that were not related to politics, yet I did in several of those, too.

    I did not learn any such things in my biology class back then. Now I bet I would, at least when it comes to multiple genders.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Jun 10 20:04:46 2023
    On 10 Jun 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    I went to University in the late 1980s - early 1990s. Whether or not you could openly debate depended on where you were and whether or not you
    knew your audience. There were a lot of "shout you down" leftists even then.

    I took a political science class. I would expect that throughout a semester, one might figure out the leanings of the professor and I did.
    I would not expect the same thing to happen in an English class, or other classes I took that were not related to politics, yet I did in several of those, too.

    I did not learn any such things in my biology class back then. Now I
    bet I would, at least when it comes to multiple genders.


    I started university in 88 and graduated in 91... I fast tracked it with sumer school. My focus was the sciences... The campus leans left, but it wasn't an uncomfortable left. I actually tried to be a liberal around my graduating year.... HAHAHA... couldn't do it. To me, and I'm only guessing here, it was like trying to change your sexual preference.

    It was the year of Desert Storm, my University's professor went on strike, there might have been something else going on. The students were called to hear what the Student Union had to say about our marks because the strike was a month or two.

    The Student Union President started her talk with how hard her year has been... Professor strikes and the war in the middle east... Like she was in someway responsible in sending men in to war where they might actually die. The world is at war, and she was talking about loosing sleep over apparent irrelevance in the scheme of things. Her talk was the straw the broke the camels back... I turned away from my thinking.... Gave up Bud Light and started drinking Rum only and became hard core Conservative.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Mike Powell on Sun Jun 11 00:07:00 2023
    On 06-10-23 14:28, Mike Powell <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Legacy Media <=-

    That makes sense, but the TV reporters used to give the source if it
    was not their own (or their network). I remember hearing them mention that "The Associated Press/New York Times/etc. has reported that..." I think they still do sometimes. I will have to pay more attention but these "same-sounding" reports I do not remember hearing them give any
    such credit.
    I would think it was a requirement to give credit if the story was not theirs.

    It should be, but I am not sure that it is always followed. What I have
    often heard is something like "NYT reports, but NBC has not independently confirmed". But once NBC "confirms" (probably through the same sources
    that NYT had), they would drop that phrase in their subsequent
    broadcasts.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Sun Jun 11 15:26:55 2023
    Hello Joe,

    I started university in 88 and graduated in 91... I fast tracked it with sumer school. My focus was the sciences... The campus leans left, but it wasn't an uncomfortable left. I actually tried to be a liberal around my graduating year.... HAHAHA... couldn't do it. To me, and I'm only guessing
    here, it was like trying to change your sexual preference.

    Diversity. That is what it is all about. And Pride. Lots of Pride.
    The perfect bangle, the perfect T-shirt, to understandably proclaim
    membership in or support of, the LGBTQ+ community. So please, take
    out your Rainbow flag and join the Pride parade.

    We did it in the French Quarter in New Orleans. You can do it in
    other places, not limiting how you feel in any one location.

    It was the year of Desert Storm, my University's professor went on strike, there might have been something else going on. The students were called to
    hear what the Student Union had to say about our marks because the strike was a month or two.

    "It's the economy, stupid!" was James Carville's call to arms.
    Bill Clinton picked it up, and students everywhere cheered.

    The Student Union President started her talk with how hard her year has been... Professor strikes and the war in the middle east... Like she was in
    someway responsible in sending men in to war where they might actually die.
    The world is at war, and she was talking about loosing sleep over apparent
    irrelevance in the scheme of things.

    Bush41 was a terrible president, and everybody knew it. Even let
    Saddam Hussein remain in power, choosing to withdraw US troops from
    Iraq after having pushed Iraqi troops out of Kuwait. But it was the
    economy at home that did him in, his inability to count the numbers.

    Her talk was the straw the broke the camels back...

    You do realize the woman is always right ...

    I turned away from my thinking....

    I tried to warn you. But did you listen?

    Gave up Bud Light and started drinking Rum only and became hard core Conservative.

    37 counts. That is what Trump got for not listening to his woman.
    Now tell me. What is your excuse?

    You really should consider joining Alcoholics Anonymous ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sun Jun 11 08:11:00 2023
    The Student Union President started her talk with how hard her year has
    een..
    Professor strikes and the war in the middle east... Like she was in someway
    e
    onsible in sending men in to war where they might actually die. The world is
    war, and she was talking about loosing sleep over apparent irrelevance in
    he
    cheme of things. Her talk was the straw the broke the camels back... I
    urned
    way from my thinking.... Gave up Bud Light and started drinking Rum only and

    ame hard core Conservative.

    I encountered a lot of silliness like that, and with a family member, that
    I am pretty certain turned me more conservative.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jun 11 07:59:14 2023
    On 11 Jun 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...


    Diversity. That is what it is all about. And Pride. Lots of Pride.
    The perfect bangle, the perfect T-shirt, to understandably proclaim membership in or support of, the LGBTQ+ community. So please, take
    out your Rainbow flag and join the Pride parade.


    Your sexual orientation has absolutely nothing to do with education, nothing. I have a gay child living in the house... and who she choses to sleep with has nothing with anything. Education needs to revert back to merit... Write a paper, do an experiment, prove your ideas amongst your peers....

    The fact that you have a vagina and you don't like dicks should not be in the mix anywhere

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sun Jun 11 08:09:35 2023
    On 11 Jun 2023, Mike Powell said the following...


    I encountered a lot of silliness like that, and with a family member,
    that I am pretty certain turned me more conservative.


    I have family members I don't talk to today because of my support for Trump... I'm okay with that... As I have eluded to the fact... just a message or two back... I have an adult child gay child living in the house... she's a leftist with a chip on her shoulder. I can trigger her easy... read my new book on the constitution in front of her... drive around town with the American Flag on the back of my jeep.

    As I have said in the past... I'm jaded about government now... All I wanted for retirement is to lay on the beach and eat hot dogs... I may just get my Dominican passport and just do it there...

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jun 11 16:14:49 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    BTW, I went to University back in the day when you could openly debate topics... If they were marking some of my papers today I'd be on the 6 O'clock news talking about how I got an "F" for not towing the line on
    the accepted narrative...

    Actually, you'd be expelled for not towing the line on the accepted Narrative today not to mention arrested (I think that's illegal in Canada, or did they pull back on that?) for not using the correct pronouns.

    The fact of "getting an 'F' for not towing the line on the accepted Narrative" would be suppressed and the Narrative of how you were an evil White Supremacist (I actually had to look up how to spell that) would be pushed to ruin your life.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sun Jun 11 16:14:49 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    He may have been but last I heard he was under arrest. It does seem to have fallen out of the news cycle, though... about the time that the NY
    DA started threatening to charge Trump. Hmmm....

    Yup. He's probably under "arrest" in some foreign country, hiding out for now in some posh resort. It was probably part of his payoff.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Jun 11 16:10:44 2023
    On 11 Jun 2023, Ron L. said the following...

    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    BTW, I went to University back in the day when you could openly debat topics... If they were marking some of my papers today I'd be on the O'clock news talking about how I got an "F" for not towing the line o the accepted narrative...

    Actually, you'd be expelled for not towing the line on the accepted Narrative today not to mention arrested (I think that's illegal in
    Canada, or did they pull back on that?) for not using the correct pronouns.

    The fact of "getting an 'F' for not towing the line on the accepted Narrative" would be suppressed and the Narrative of how you were an evil White Supremacist (I actually had to look up how to spell that) would be pushed to ruin your life.

    I don't follow Canadian news like I do the US. I you're right it is illegal for not towing the line on the current narrative. Dr. Jordan Peterson may be loosing his Psychology license because he doesn't buy in to the woke agenda. People, not clients, complained to the licensing board saying he was insensitive... They are thinking of pulling Dr. Peterson's license to practice ... He doesn't actively practice anymore... BUT he spent a lifetime working in the field and because he doesn't do the pronoun thing he could loose his license.

    Dr. Saad, an other Canadian academic is thinking of leaving Canada to head to an other country like Canada use tho be like.

    Bill C-11, now law, gives Trudeau the ability monitor and change content on social media...

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 05:04:17 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Diversity. That is what it is all about. And Pride. Lots of Pride.
    The perfect bangle, the perfect T-shirt, to understandably proclaim
    membership in or support of, the LGBTQ+ community. So please, take
    out your Rainbow flag and join the Pride parade.

    Your sexual orientation has absolutely nothing to do with education, nothing. I have a gay child living in the house... and who she choses to sleep with has nothing with anything. Education needs to revert back to merit... Write a paper, do an experiment, prove your ideas amongst your peers....

    Do you let he/her/it use your bathroom? Or do you have a separate
    one - just for him/her/it?

    States have even gone insane, shutting off access to rest rooms
    for children. Boys can use the boys room. Girls can use the girls
    room. But trans have to go to the principal's office to use what
    used to be the principal's room. Why is that? Maybe we are all
    insane, not just MAGA nutjobs.

    But hey. I'm glad to hear your gay child has her own special place
    in the privacy of her own home.

    The fact that you have a vagina and you don't like dicks should not be in the mix anywhere

    When I was in college I created a walk-in vagina as a public
    exhibit as a project for art class. All the students loved it -
    including the professor who had created a giant penis as his
    public exhibit. I passed the course in flying colors.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 05:04:23 2023
    Hello Joe,

    As I have said in the past... I'm jaded about government now...

    The best things in life are free. And trust me when I tell you,
    everything ought to be free.

    All I wanted for retirement is to lay on the beach and eat hot dogs...

    With no margaritas? I don't believe you ...

    I may just get my Dominican passport and just do it there...

    Jimmy Buffet prefers Margaritaville. Even though he gave up
    margaritas years ago.

    "Growing old is not for sissies." ~Jimmy Buffett

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 12 07:18:52 2023
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I don't follow Canadian news like I do the US. I you're right it is illegal for not towing the line on the current narrative. Dr. Jordan Peterson may be loosing his Psychology license because he doesn't buy
    in to the woke agenda.

    That's what I remember reading. I know of Peterson. I'm not a huge fan
    (let's face it, he's not the most carismatic person :) ), but I do enjoy listening to him once in a while.

    People, not clients, complained to the
    licensing board saying he was insensitive... They are thinking of
    pulling Dr. Peterson's license to practice ... He doesn't actively practice anymore... BUT he spent a lifetime working in the field and because he doesn't do the pronoun thing he could loose his license.

    Yup. That's the Socialist Way: Our way, or we will destroy you.

    Bill C-11, now law, gives Trudeau the ability monitor and change
    content on social media...

    So Canada is now part of China. Good to know.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Jun 12 07:53:59 2023
    On 12 Jun 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...


    Do you let he/her/it use your bathroom? Or do you have a separate
    one - just for him/her/it?


    She's a her, not an idiot, and pisses in the girls bathroom because she's a girl... I haven't had any probing questions on her orientation... From what I can tell she just doesn't like dick.

    States have even gone insane, shutting off access to rest rooms
    for children. Boys can use the boys room. Girls can use the girls
    room. But trans have to go to the principal's office to use what
    used to be the principal's room. Why is that? Maybe we are all
    insane, not just MAGA nutjobs.


    There have been several cases cases where someone said they were trans-gender to access the girls washroom and change rooms only later to commit rape a do creepy things to the females in those rooms. Recall Virginia had a gubernatorial race was won because of a school board trying to cover up the rapes... Father of the daughter was arrested for asking questions about the rapist... rapist was moved to an other school where he committed the same crimes.


    But hey. I'm glad to hear your gay child has her own special place
    in the privacy of her own home.


    Everyone has a safe space here... it's called their bedrooms...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Jun 12 07:57:01 2023
    On 12 Jun 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...


    All I wanted for retirement is to lay on the beach and eat hot dogs..

    With no margaritas? I don't believe you ...


    I drink Rum... And the government in the Dominican Republic is corrupt, it doesn't try to claim it's for the people, by the people...

    Hola como estas... just need to bone up on my Spanish...

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Mon Jun 12 15:38:00 2023
    I have family members I don't talk to today because of my support for
    rump...
    'm okay with that... As I have eluded to the fact... just a message or two
    ac
    .. I have an adult child gay child living in the house... she's a leftist
    ith
    chip on her shoulder. I can trigger her easy... read my new book on the
    ons
    tution in front of her... drive around town with the American Flag on the
    ac
    of my jeep.

    I have never stopped talking to family members because of politics, but I
    have learned not to talk politics in front of a lot of them. I do have one family member who quit talking to most all of us several years ago due to multiple issues, mostly revolving around politics and religion. This is
    going to sound like a contradiction, but most of us were either not leftist enough or not religious enough (or both!). We were not "supportive" of her beliefs.

    As I have said in the past... I'm jaded about government now... All I wanted

    retirement is to lay on the beach and eat hot dogs... I may just get my
    omin
    an passport and just do it there...

    I am also jaded about government in general. If you move to the Dominican Republic, take your BBS with you. You might be the only BBS there. :)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Mon Jun 12 15:45:00 2023
    He may have been but last I heard he was under arrest. It does seem to have fallen out of the news cycle, though... about the time that the NY DA started threatening to charge Trump. Hmmm....

    Yup. He's probably under "arrest" in some foreign country, hiding out for
    ow
    in some posh resort. It was probably part of his payoff.

    I think that he was extradited from a Carribean island nation (possibly the British Virgin Isles??) to the US.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Mon Jun 12 15:49:00 2023
    I went to University in the late 1980s - early 1990s. Whether or not you could openly debate depended on where you were and whether or not you knew your audience. There were a lot of "shout you down" leftists even then.

    I went at the same time, but it was a University that focused on technical things - where the Woke finds it harder to get a hold because performance is required and standards can't be lowered (spending all that money for a mechanical engineering degree is worthless unless you can pass the certification exam).

    There is a lot to be said of places where performance and standards are required. Probably graduates more competent people than most "liberal arts colleges."

    That's primarily where I saw the Elitism. The college I went to was geared toward engineering, computer science, etc. yet many in the English Dept seems to think that they were the most important.

    Probably the only department where they could get away with it. :)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Mon Jun 12 16:11:00 2023
    I don't follow Canadian news like I do the US. I you're right it is illegal for not towing the line on the current narrative. Dr. Jordan Peterson may be loosing his Psychology license because he doesn't buy
    in to the woke agenda.

    Peterson needs to move somewhere where his rights are recognized, and not
    just the rights of those who want to play dress up or smoke pot.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Mon Jun 12 18:05:16 2023
    On 12 Jun 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    I have never stopped talking to family members because of politics, but I have learned not to talk politics in front of a lot of them. I do have one family member who quit talking to most all of us several years ago
    due to multiple issues, mostly revolving around politics and religion. This is going to sound like a contradiction, but most of us were either not leftist enough or not religious enough (or both!). We were not "supportive" of her beliefs.


    I'm okay with not talking... I won't have to hear her hypocritical views. Life is too short.


    I am also jaded about government in general. If you move to the
    Dominican Republic, take your BBS with you. You might be the only BBS there. :)


    Maybe... I'll have to get my menus all done up in Spanish... maybe get Pedro as a co-SysOp.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Mon Jun 12 18:16:40 2023
    On 12 Jun 2023, Mike Powell said the following...

    Peterson needs to move somewhere where his rights are recognized, and not just the rights of those who want to play dress up or smoke pot.


    For now he's fighting the system. He doesn't actively see clients anymore.
    He just does public speaking engagements and talks shit about Trudeau...

    We need more people standing up against the machine.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 13 02:39:19 2023
    Hello Joe,

    Do you let he/her/it use your bathroom? Or do you have a separate
    one - just for him/her/it?

    She's a her, not an idiot, and pisses in the girls bathroom because she's a
    girl...

    There are five sexes of man -

    * male
    * female
    * pseudo hermaphrodite
    * true hermaphrodite
    * eunuch

    I haven't had any probing questions on her orientation...

    Then why should those who are trans not be allowed to use a rest
    room at school? You do realize when one has to go one has to go ...

    From what I can tell she just doesn't like dick.

    How do you know what she likes and what she does not like?
    And why would you (or anybody else) care?

    States have even gone insane, shutting off access to rest rooms
    for children. Boys can use the boys room. Girls can use the girls
    room. But trans have to go to the principal's office to use what
    used to be the principal's room. Why is that? Maybe we are all
    insane, not just MAGA nutjobs.

    There have been several cases cases where someone said they were trans-gender to access the girls washroom and change rooms only later to commit rape a do creepy things to the females in those rooms.

    Donald Trump did it to at least one grown woman without ever
    claiming to be trans-gender. He is a self-admitted sexual predator,
    a jury of his peers finding him liable for defamation and sexual
    harrassment. Others have done worse things.

    Recall Virginia had a gubernatorial race was won because of a school board trying to cover up the rapes...

    Rape is a crime of violence. Had it been a criminal trial rather
    than a civic trial, Trump would be doing time in prison.

    Father of the daughter was arrested for asking questions about the rapist...
    rapist was moved to an other school where he committed the same crimes.

    Donald Trump is still free and at-large. The same as other sexual
    predators and rapists. But since Trump is not a trans, that makes it
    okay?

    All sexual predators and rapists should be condemned for what they
    did. All should be brought to justice for what they have done. Even
    those who happen have been president.

    But hey. I'm glad to hear your gay child has her own special place
    in the privacy of her own home.

    Everyone has a safe space here... it's called their bedrooms...

    Everyone, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, should be
    allowed to use the rest room at school. Not just inside their own
    home.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 13 02:39:25 2023
    Hello Joe,

    All I wanted for retirement is to lay on the beach and eat hot
    dogs..

    With no margaritas? I don't believe you ...

    I drink Rum...

    There is no Rumville to be found anywhere in the world.

    And the government in the Dominican Republic is corrupt, it doesn't try to claim it's for the people, by the people...

    Now you know why Jimmy Buffett went to Margaritaville.

    Hola como estas... just need to bone up on my Spanish...

    Jimmy Buffett singing "Margaritaville" in Spanish would be
    a sight to behold - "Wasting away again in Margaritaville."

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Tue Jun 13 07:42:26 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-

    There is a lot to be said of places where performance and standards are required. Probably graduates more competent people than most "liberal arts colleges."

    But even the more technical universities have seen a drop in standards and increased woke-ness. It just took longer.

    That's primarily where I saw the Elitism. The college I went to was geared toward engineering, computer science, etc. yet many in the English Dept
    seems
    to think that they were the most important.

    Probably the only department where they could get away with it. :)

    Pretty much. Everyone else had to be competent.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Jun 13 19:41:17 2023
    On 13 Jun 2023, Lee Lofaso said the following...

    Hello Joe,

    Do you let he/her/it use your bathroom? Or do you have a separate
    one - just for him/her/it?

    She's a her, not an idiot, and pisses in the girls bathroom because sh
    a
    girl...

    There are five sexes of man -

    * male
    * female
    * pseudo hermaphrodite
    * true hermaphrodite
    * eunuch

    That is the problem. In a word "acknowledgement" of all of these other so called sexes. What should be done with these people who claim these disorders and the same is true for the people who support these delinquents.
    Y'all need a psychiatric evaluation.

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    ... Still waitng for that Coffee :)

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