• Alarming Poll Numbers

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALL on Sat Oct 7 09:50:00 2023
    I read a poll yesterday where more conservative Americans believe our
    number one problem is the border crisis. Other choices included the cost
    of food, and the cost of energy/fuel/transportation.

    While I believe the border is a problem that needs to be dealt with, I care about it less and less as the cost to feed myself and keep my power on
    stays much higher than it was in 2020.

    If you agree that the border crisis should be our top priority, do you also agree you would feel that way if you have no food or heat this winter?

    In a series of recent posts, I mentioned traveling across country and
    noticing the tent/RV cities and excessive litter along the way. The areas
    I noticed these things in the most were the areas where food and fuel were
    the most expensive. I don't think that is a coincidence.

    My poll choice, BTW, was cost of energy/fuel/transportation because I
    believe that is part of the reason food costs are also up.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Oct 7 15:40:30 2023
    If you agree that the border crisis should be our top priority, do you also agree you would feel that way if you have no food or heat this winter?

    Yes Mike, I still think the border crisis is more important. Look at all the nasty stuff the unprecedented president has gotten us into:

    Millions of people, from all around the world, all without criminal background verification, are all walking around our country right now.

    We do criminal record checks on people before we hire them to run a cash register at the gas station, and we do that to prevent problems for the gas station. Think of the USA as a gas station with 20 million+ gas station employees who skipped the criminal record check. Do you think any money will turn up missing from the cash register?

    I'd rather be freezing and eating shoe leather than be victimized by one of Joe's invitees.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Mike Powell on Sun Oct 8 09:31:51 2023
    Mike Powell wrote to ALL <=-

    I read a poll yesterday where more conservative Americans believe our number one problem is the border crisis. Other choices included the
    cost of food, and the cost of energy/fuel/transportation.

    That "poll" smells like propaganda to focus people's attention on the border where Biden is "doing something about it". Never mind that he created the problem in the first place.

    So I'd chalk this one up to another distraction.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Oct 8 09:17:00 2023
    I'd rather be freezing and eating shoe leather than be victimized by one of Jo
    s invitees.

    I would not as I know the actual likelihood of me being victimized by one
    of "Joe's invitees" is pretty slim. Where I live, I am much more likely to
    be a victim of a white American confidence grifter than I am to come upon Mexican Joker.

    The two run-ins I had while touring the US southern tier were also with non-hispanic "domestic" individuals.

    OTOH, the likelihood of me being affected negatively by rising energy and food costs is 100%.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON L. on Sun Oct 8 09:12:00 2023
    I read a poll yesterday where more conservative Americans believe our number one problem is the border crisis. Other choices included the cost of food, and the cost of energy/fuel/transportation.

    That "poll" smells like propaganda to focus people's attention on the border where Biden is "doing something about it". Never mind that he created the problem in the first place.

    So I'd chalk this one up to another distraction.

    That could be.

    I will also note that I assume it was targeted at conservative Americans as
    one of the other choices was "Abortion rights" and it did not even have 1%
    of the vote. That tells me who was not voting in it.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sun Oct 8 10:12:42 2023
    I'd rather be freezing and eating shoe leather than be victimized by one Jo
    s invitees.

    I would not as I know the actual likelihood of me being victimized by one of "Joe's invitees" is pretty slim. Where I live, I am much more likely to be a victim of a white American confidence grifter than I am to come upon Mexican Joker.

    I see your points, and there will be some consequences if there's a shutdown, but some people (myself included) think it would be worth it.

    The Democrats want that cash really bad. Surely they will work something out. But some problems can't be on the back burner for so long.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Tue Oct 10 05:23:41 2023
    Mike Powell -> ALL skrev 2023-10-07 16:50:
    My poll choice, BTW, was cost of energy/fuel/transportation because I believe that is part of the reason food costs are also up.

    You *do* know that the US *exports* five million barrels of crude oil per day?

    That's 800 million litres per day. More than enough to fill the tank on 10 million cars. *Per* *Day*

    And still you blame Biden for this? Why not put the blame where it belongs -- on the US oil barons, that prefer to sell their oil on international commodity market, rather than to the US consumers.

    And also blame the US consumers, that refuse to reduce their oil consumption. Leave those huge, gas guzzling trucks be, and get smaller cars. After all, the size of your car has nothing to do with the size of your penis -- unlike popular belief in the US.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Tue Oct 10 14:50:14 2023
    Hello Björn,

    [..]

    Leave those huge, gas guzzling trucks be, and get smaller cars.

    You ain't never been to Texas, hoss.

    After all, the size of your car has nothing to do with the size of your penis -- unlike popular belief in the US.

    Swedish gals are no different than American gals. It is all about
    what is underneath the hood that counts. And trust me when I tell
    you this, bigger is better.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Oct 10 16:33:18 2023
    Lee Lofaso -> Björn Felten skrev 2023-10-10 14:50:
    Swedish gals are no different than American gals.

    Make that European girls. Why do you think that the most popular cars in Europe were VW Beetle, Citroën 2CV, BMC Mini, Fiat 500 and the likes? Never any F-150 and similar monsters. Our girls can see far beyond the hood...

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Wed Oct 11 06:14:19 2023
    Hello Björn,

    Swedish gals are no different than American gals.

    Make that European girls. Why do you think that the most popular cars in Europe were VW Beetle, Citroën 2CV, BMC Mini, Fiat 500 and the likes? Never
    any F-150 and similar monsters. Our girls can see far beyond the hood...

    One of my friends used to have a Yugo.

    One day, while driving on the highway, his windshield fell out.
    His dad had some aviator goggles, so he put those on so he could
    drive the car to a shop in New Orleans to replace the windshield.
    Cop pulled him over on the highway, as it is not legal to drive
    a car without a windshield.

    My friend had to step out of the car, helmet and goggles still
    on his face, and explain to the cop why he was wearing them while
    driving. I was not sure if the cop was going to arrest him for
    insanity or die from laughing out loud.

    He decided to let him continue on his way with just a warning.

    On the way back, his horn popped out.

    The Yugo was sold in the USA for only a short while.
    Very cheap car. Made in Yugoslavia. Basically, a 1969 Fiat.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Oct 11 11:22:58 2023
    Lee Lofaso -> Björn Felten skrev 2023-10-11 06:14:
    The Yugo was sold in the USA for only a short while.
    Very cheap car. Made in Yugoslavia. Basically, a 1969 Fiat.

    Basically a very bad copy, like all cars made by Soviet controlled areas by then. Never made it in Western Europe.

    Then again maybe he should have bought a Vega (Chevy) rather than a Yugo?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Mon Oct 16 17:27:32 2023
    Hello Björn,

    The Yugo was sold in the USA for only a short while.
    Very cheap car. Made in Yugoslavia. Basically, a 1969 Fiat.

    Basically a very bad copy, like all cars made by Soviet controlled areas by
    then. Never made it in Western Europe.

    Fiat is a company in Italy, and still is. The old plant was sold
    to a company in Serbia, which produced the Yugo. The Yugo is a copy
    of the 1969 Fiat. Parts are interchangeable with the Yugo, as I
    know from the experience of others. Finding parts that old were a
    problem, but stashing used Yugos was not.

    The car was so bad that Bill Clinton bombed it to smithereens
    during NATO's war on Serbia. And no more new parts could be found
    anywhere from that point on - except from other used Yugos.

    Then again maybe he should have bought a Vega (Chevy) rather than
    a Yugo?

    Nothing is the same as owning a Yugo. Especially one that runs.

    This is something that folks from other lands do not understand.
    Americans love their cars. No matter where that car comes from, it
    is their dearly beloved. The Yugo was no different.

    One neighbor loved his Yugo so much that he always had two or three
    other Yugos in his yard, which he used for spare parts. The only
    thing that stopped him from driving was a stroke, the inability
    to speak, and the loss of one leg. Thank god the Yugo was a stick
    shift.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Tue Oct 17 00:43:03 2023
    Lee Lofaso -> Björn Felten skrev 2023-10-16 17:27:
    The old plant was sold
    to a company in Serbia, which produced the Yugo.

    The car company Zastava, that made the Yugo, was located in the country Yugoslavia. The province Serbia, then part of Yugoslavia, became a sovereign state in 2006, long after the car model Yugo went off production. I think they are making guns or something like that now.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Thu Oct 19 12:31:08 2023
    Hello Björn,

    The old plant was sold
    to a company in Serbia, which produced the Yugo.

    The car company Zastava, that made the Yugo, was located in the country Yugoslavia.

    Fiat cars, made in Yugoslavia, branded as Yugos. They were very
    popular in the USA in the 1980s. But only among a certain crowd.

    The province Serbia, then part of Yugoslavia, became a sovereign state in 2006, long after the car model Yugo went off production.

    The Yugo went out of production because the plant was blown to
    smithereens by NATO aircraft. The company went belly-up a few years
    later (as per producing cars).

    I think they are making guns or something like that now.

    Whatever it is trying to sell, there aren't any buyers.

    For Life,
    Lee

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