• nodelist..

    From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jul 11 18:34:00 2021
    Ok.. Looking at the nodelist directly, I see:

    ,27,Star_Collision_BBS,Uppsala_Sweden,Bjorn_Wiberg,46-18- 7501515,9600,ICM,TJT,XW,V90C,X2C,VFC,V32T,H16,INA:scbbs.nsupdat e.info,IBN,IFC,ITN:60177,IVM:60177,UMY,ENC

    But.. something about nodelist .190 seems broken. Too many
    fields? What is "TJT"?

    It doesn't even render properly for my fidograph version at http://kolico.ca/ftn/micronet :( The last known version that
    "looks" right is .127.

    False alarm.

    After I removed another nodelist (Scinet), the micronet
    nodelist looked right. I had configured the Scinet one as a
    DIFF file when it was infact a full file.
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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to August Abolins on Sun Jul 11 20:10:19 2021
    Hello August,

    Sunday July 11 2021 18:34, you wrote to me:

    False alarm.

    Measure twice, cut once. :)

    FWIW, the individual hubs create their own segments manually. All my system does is spit out the compiled nodelist. As for Bjorn's nodelist flags, ask him what they mean. Unless I get notice from a hub or a node that their nodelist isn't compiling correctly, that doesn't bother me.

    If you have any questions about the nodelist, contact the NC who wrote that segment--in this case, it's Nick Andre--rather than me. Unless it's affecting the network, it's not my concern.

    Yes, that's a lot of flags, but you should be aware that Fidonet Zone 2 have their own special flags that Zone 1 does not use. In my case, any flags that my system doesn't recognize are ignored and for the past 21 years, they have not caused any problems here. So no worries from me on Bjorn's node segment or Nick's net segment. MakeNL compiles the nodelist just fine and that's okay by me.

    Also, this really should be brought up in MIN_ADMIN and not in MIN_BBS. If you don't have it already, please ask Mike to give you access to MIN_ADMIN.

    I appreciate your concern but to me a lot of nodelist flags aren't anything for me to worry about. :) (Lazy ZC talking)

    -- Sean

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  • From August Abolins@618:250/1.9 to Sean Dennis on Mon Jul 12 07:46:00 2021
    Hello Sean!

    ** On Sunday 11.07.21 - 20:10, you wrote to me:

    False alarm.

    Measure twice, cut once. :)

    FWIW, the individual hubs create their own segments
    manually. All my system does is spit out the compiled
    nodelist. As for Bjorn's nodelist flags, ask him what
    they mean. Unless I get notice from a hub or a node that
    their nodelist isn't compiling correctly, that doesn't
    bother me.

    Yeah.. I didn't think anything in the lines would be the
    problem either. And.. since OpenXp just compiled/merged the
    lists without any warnings, there was no reason to suspect that
    there was a lurking problem. And, somehow that inclusion
    messed up the Viewer for everything else.

    The problem appeared to be that I had configured Scinet as a
    DIFF-type nodelist, when infact it was not. Something in OpenXP
    that could tell the diiference between a diff and a regular
    nodelist *before* it starts processing might have been a good
    idea.

    I appreciate your concern but to me a lot of nodelist
    flags aren't anything for me to worry about. :) (Lazy ZC
    talking)

    It's all good.

    --
    ../|ug

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to August Abolins on Mon Jul 12 12:54:02 2021
    August Abolins wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    The problem appeared to be that I had configured Scinet as a
    DIFF-type nodelist, when infact it was not. Something in OpenXP
    that could tell the diiference between a diff and a regular
    nodelist *before* it starts processing might have been a good
    idea.

    Might be something to suggest to OpenXP's author. It shouldn't be too difficult to write since a nodelist and a nodediff are sufficently
    different to where you can just scan the first line.

    I do not use nodediffs; I never have in my entire BBSing "career".
    There hasn't been a reason to. Though my system does build its master
    nodelist every Friday after the Micronet nodelist is created.

    -- Sean


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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Sean Dennis on Tue Jul 13 07:17:00 2021
    Measure twice, cut once. :)


    My wife watches a home improvement show. In the woodshop, emblazoned over
    the door are the words "Measure Once, Cuss Twice".



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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Jul 13 17:02:06 2021
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    My wife watches a home improvement show. In the woodshop, emblazoned
    over the door are the words "Measure Once, Cuss Twice".

    That's more realistic. <G>

    -- Sean

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  • From August Abolins@618:510/1.1 to Sean Dennis on Mon Jul 12 22:11:00 2021
    Hello Sean!

    ** On Monday 12.07.21 - 12:54, you wrote,

    Might be something to suggest to OpenXP's author. It
    shouldn't be too difficult to write since a nodelist and a
    nodediff are sufficently different to where you can just
    scan the first line.

    And the code is all open-source. Probably anyone could look at
    it and suggest a coding change for that part.

    But I think the current developer is tired of me. I'm
    practically responsible for many of the changes from when I was
    first introduced to OpenXP when it was v5.0.38 (Apr 2019) to
    what it is now at v5.0.50 :/

    I do not use nodediffs; I never have in my entire BBSing
    "career". There hasn't been a reason to. Though my system
    does build its master nodelist every Friday after the
    Micronet nodelist is created.

    I just like the way they need to work to reconstruct an updated
    list. ;)

    OpenXP can also be configured to use full lists, no problem,
    but then a weekly nodelist cannot be missed since the program
    always checks for the proper ### + 7 for the next one.


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    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.50
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  • From Daryl Stout@618:250/33 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Jul 14 09:44:00 2021
    Kurt,

    Measure twice, cut once. :)

    My wife watches a home improvement show. In the woodshop, emblazoned
    over the door are the words "Measure Once, Cuss Twice".

    That's too funny. <BG>

    Daryl

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