I am curious to know what different languages we know how to speak in
this community.
And if you have a language that you are wishing to learn, but still
haven't quite got the time to get into it.
I know some of the following languages:
- Portuguese
- English
- Spanish
And I want to learn, but still haven't got proficient with:
- Esperanto
- Sanskrit
And I want to learn, but still haven't got proficient with:Ah, Sanskrit. It is sister language and very close to my native tongue:
- Esperanto
- Sanskrit
And I want to learn, but still haven't got proficient with:
- Esperanto
- Sanskrit
Ah, Sanskrit. It is sister language and very close to my native tongue:
Odia (or Oriya) which is as old as (if not older) than Sanskrit itself.
A lot of words are similar and very much inter-understandable.
I also speak English and wish to learn Russian (and Cyrillic alphabets).
Sanskrit is the older among the two, but the entire thing is a moreAnd I want to learn, but still haven't got proficient with:
- Esperanto
- Sanskrit
Ah, Sanskrit. It is sister language and very close to my native
tongue: Odia (or Oriya) which is as old as (if not older) than
Sanskrit itself. A lot of words are similar and very much
inter-understandable.
I also speak English and wish to learn Russian (and Cyrillic
alphabets).
That is awesome Annada :-) Odia....
0. Do you know which is the older language, from that region, that I
can learn today?
1. Also, I am looking for a language with beautiful sounding, >internacionality and easyness in learning (the grammar and such, I knowIf you ask me, a native Odia speaker, I cannot be objectively impartial
I always have to commit to memory new words...).
And I want to learn, but still haven't got proficient with:
- Esperanto
- Sanskrit
Ah, Sanskrit. It is sister language and very close to my native
tongue: Odia (or Oriya) which is as old as (if not older) than
Sanskrit itself. A lot of words are similar and very much
inter-understandable.
I also speak English and wish to learn Russian (and Cyrillic
alphabets).
That is awesome Annada :-) Odia....
0. Do you know which is the older language, from that region, that I
can learn today?
Sanskrit is the older among the two, but the entire thing is a more
nuianced. Here is why[1]:
In ancient India there were two languages: (a) Sanskrit and (b) Prakrit.
All the Hindu texts (including Vedas, Epics, Upanisads) were in Sanskrit language. Sanskrit was mostly passed down orally among the Brahmans (the priest class of the Indian caste system.) The discrimination due to
Indian caste system forbid any non-Brahmans from enunciating Sanskrit.
And Brahmans being the upper caste, they will beat you up if you learn
and speak Sanskrit, back in those days (about 1000 BC).
So, Prakrit was the language of the common man that was spoken in
ancient India: (a) Maghadha Kingdom in the North where Maghadha-Prakrit
was spoken, (b) Kalinga Kingdom in the East where Odra-Prakrit (ancestor
of Odia) was spoken.
Maghadha-Prakrit doesn't exist anymore. It got fragmented into many
Indian languages, which fragmented even more until we reach modern
languages like Hindi. Odia evolving from Odra-Prakrit is the oldest fork
from Prakrit language. This is one of the reason why Sanskrit is also
written in Odia script, apart from more common Devanagari script.
Sanskrit was a language that was "ancient" even for people of ancient
India. Sanskrit was a elite language to be preserved for tradion and
rituals. It was never spoken and was always there from antiquity, while Prakrit and it's children was the common tongue that everybody spoke.
1. Also, I am looking for a language with beautiful sounding, >>internacionality and easyness in learning (the grammar and such, I know
I always have to commit to memory new words...).
If you ask me, a native Odia speaker, I cannot be objectively impartial
in claiming the Odia is the more beautiful sounding language of two.
The phonetics is simple and straightforward. In fact, you can read any
Odia text dating back to 1000 years with just one hour of introduction.
The grammar is also straightforward. As with any other language, understanding words and learning context is always something you have to
get used to.
If you decide to learn Odia, one thing I want to point out is that,
the Odia language is unfortunately dying. A lot of foreign words are replacing Odia words and are getting standardized. Odia people and
culture doesn't have a sphere of influence neither in India or the
world, hence less and less people know about it. So there is a real
danger of Odia fading away. Currently, it's just us a few "grumpy old
men" who cling to the correct traditional Odia in the melting pot of
Indian languages, which is slowly but surely merging into one language.
Maybe they will call it Prakrit again :)
[1]: I haven't done a lot of research on languages and I maybe wrong on
some of the facts. This is the history that I know.
I am curious to know what different languages we know how to speak in
this community.
And if you have a language that you are wishing to learn, but still
haven't quite got the time to get into it.
I am curious to know what different languages we know how to speak in
this community.
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